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asciilifeform: now this i cannot touch, i have deeply nfi what sort of cockroaches are chittering in typical '20something reader'.
mircea_popescu: ie, the illiterate 20something reader will read something else.
mircea_popescu: (note that i ~can~ both follow and support the reading of the man's words that'd permit you to say "Yes" ; however it'd be very much a sopirla, and well distant from what "plain reading" delivers.)
asciilifeform: sure does. and i , and e.g. phf, are alive because of kurchatov. moar directly than from penicillin etc.
mircea_popescu: does this meet your criteria for " he did not know how to do things that would be of use to him personally, or some particular group" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 16:11 asciilifeform: kurchatov, supposedly, sat and thought, and few minutes later answered, 'perhaps from philosophical pov this'd be consistent. but then we will have to forget about obtaining the bomb.'
asciilifeform: item ain't about socialist fungus robbing mircea_popescu's gold to pay iq80 scum to breed. item is about a man of science who 'acted from causes, not purposes' and did not think 'hey i can't monetize 'principia', i'd better not newtonate'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what does "it seems to me, that he did not know how to do things that would be of use to him personally, or some particular group. everyone. or nobody." mean here in your reading ?
mircea_popescu: phf by the time you write obituaries "istos plausus, cum popularibus civibus tribuerentur", you have already done the deed, and now work for forbes.
mircea_popescu: the point of an obituary is to satisfy the spirit of the departed.
mircea_popescu: phf entirely not true.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is no actual connection between your map and the territory. it's dust on yer lens.
mircea_popescu: no child left behind was the soviet ideal ? really ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the ideal of the soviet man of science is that until such a time as every last soviet citizen can follow brin the elder, no brin the elder should speak ?
phf: i suspect this dude doesn't have any kind of apropriate venue to publish an obituary that he expects to be read by a lot of people. that's sort of the point of obituary, is to get any random reddit man to scratch his head
asciilifeform: it's not an ideal of the office plankton, of the обыватель ( ~burgher ) mushmind, no. it is ideal of the man of science.
mircea_popescu: it's what we expect to see, isn't it ? usg is specifically the empire of "there's a difference between what is and what you want to see, and we live out of selling that"
mircea_popescu: phf which is why this dude is trying to help forbes sell.
asciilifeform: like the dervish.
phf: there's soviets that read "ponedelnik nachinayetsa..." and took it to heart, they proped up the rest of the charade. that's the ideal soviet man, that products of intelligentsia parents like ascii or myself talk about. it is obviously a chimera, but it still has a mythical value
asciilifeform: fughet about the meat counter and the Official claptrap.
mircea_popescu: but this isn't in any sense what's said.
mircea_popescu: did this occur anywhere ?
mircea_popescu: man at shop where they don't hjave meat said, "well, if there's not enough meat for the whole queue, i take no meat" ?
asciilifeform: and this was respectable, and respected. it was ~ideal~ of 'sov man', not necessarily life.
mircea_popescu: like, let's have an example of any item, mechanism, anything recognizably soviet that worked as described.
asciilifeform: essence is, i think, that d00d did not charge-for-sunlight and didn't think much of people who tried.
mircea_popescu: well then, explain this to me.
asciilifeform: the point is apparently that the paragraph where item falls down for mircea_popescu , is where it... stands up for asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: which soviet i never saw was this ?!
mircea_popescu: the point is really, "soviet man didn't know how to support a group" ?
mircea_popescu: but the point is not that.
asciilifeform: and i unzip and piss on the other type of man. the ones who tried to alchemize and monopolize the unix src, described in $article.
phf: zavalashin is another old timer, the piece in question is his only contribution to forbse ☟︎
mircea_popescu: eg, the salted leg in moscow jumps!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i seem to think parts of dead frog behave more convincingly than other parts.
asciilifeform: i dun see it. because, guesswat, asciilifeform is exactly same type of man .
mircea_popescu: and the piece is OF a respectable man, but not by a respectable man, though the quality of the masquerade is indeed high.
mircea_popescu: and the dollar is "quoted" in rubles to propose that anyone would ever want to buy some.
asciilifeform: if it's a usg.op, it's to prop up the rest of the forbes liquishit with this eminently respectable piece.
mircea_popescu: forbes ru exists to lend credence to the empty notion that forbes is a thing, which is no different from the proposition best-bitcoin-mining-trading-info-near-you-australia.s3.amazonaws.com is a thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do you read "it seems to me, that he did not know how to do things that would be of use to him personally, or some particular group. everyone. or nobody. we all once were like this. us. people from a destroyed country" other than a) a retcon of history (soviet man EMINENTLY was never like this,. but like the opposite of this) and b) "please please please let there be no republc please" rendered in prolix sty
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 22:34 mircea_popescu: especially fabuous as the "you may also be interested in" bullshit is liek "virtualnoe bezdele rabotodateli rasplachivayutsya za internet SERFING" under "karera i svoy biznes". AS FUCKING IF!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759922 << and yes it's plastered in spamola. confession : until today asciilifeform did not know there WAS a ru forbes ☝︎
mircea_popescu: these are the spirits of the dead, unsatiated, restless, unburied.
mircea_popescu: kinda why lemures/spectra/etc were scary to teh romans.
asciilifeform: i still dungetit, is there hoap
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fate of the lost is that they continue at their level of skill.
mircea_popescu is also happy at how diana_coman 's code veers towards literate style. you've seen this phf ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: what's in it for the rezidentura
asciilifeform: ok, ate the log, but puzzled
mircea_popescu waves at the moscow usg residentura.
asciilifeform pulls out imaginary notebook and tried to predict, before eating rest of log, how mircea_popescu barfed
asciilifeform: 'perhaps, to the end of his days, valeriy bardin remained a soviet man -- it seems to me, that he did not know how to do things that would be of use to him personally, or some particular group. everyone. or nobody. we all once were like this. us. people from a destroyed country. and, perhaps, will be again. perhaps this was specifically the thing which was worth learning from valeriy bardin. when he was still there.'
asciilifeform: ecipients to that of the donor's. and if england and france will put this money to use to demolish bridges and bread down roads, then we of course will pay. england and france thought about it, and their dispute with russia died down.'
asciilifeform: 'russia [at eu unix user group] was invited to pay a membership due in proportion to its network size. it turned out that russia (remember, '90s, nobody's got any kind of moneys whatsoever) must pay more than england, france, and germany put together. bardin took the stage and proclaimed that he is ready to pay, but only if the money will be used in accordance with the organization's charter -- to bring the development level of the r
shinohai: "'Cryptocurrency enthusiast and cybersecurity pioneer John McAfee has claimed that his Twitter account was compromised by an unknown offender who used his social media account to fraudulently promote “undervalued” digital coins.'
mircea_popescu: "daniel is a bot" "how can you tell it's a bot ?" "because i don;t like what it says, but let's veil this into some numerology considerations". hurr.
mircea_popescu: as if there's fucking options at their level. "oh, i am destitute but have options!!1"
mircea_popescu: lol all the self important "i'll read something else". really bitch ? what will you read, trilema ?
shinohai: I missed the pantsuit drama yesterday http://archive.is/bpJUc
mircea_popescu: "the computing centers, tired of routine, seized the novelty" holy crap. moscow station last functional usg item, defo.
mircea_popescu: especially fabuous as the "you may also be interested in" bullshit is liek "virtualnoe bezdele rabotodateli rasplachivayutsya za internet SERFING" under "karera i svoy biznes". AS FUCKING IF! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: im going to make this the permanent reference endpoint to that entire story of how sane language protects the speaker from idiocy as a passive aura.
mircea_popescu: putting the usd and euro "values" as if they existed or mattered up top is one thing. but this, thbis is liek moar skill and ability than seen from usg in 20 years.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759874 << whoa check out how deep the forbes subversion goes, they actually hired one who knows enough of ru society to "fall upon his house". ☝︎
danielpbarron: they also gave me a gmail address, for what that's worth. i'm like "what's wrong with doing it right here??"
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron idiots gotta idiot, they're not fucking dedicated to ANYTHING like they';re dedicated to the maintenance and perpetuation of the empire of idiocy.
danielpbarron: i had that earlier today, went to #somechannel saying i want to sponsor show. they give me patreon link
mircea_popescu: i am personally insulted by all the useless fuckwits with patreon profiles because unlike the useless fuckwits a la say rms, they MOVED THERE AFTER THE REPUBLIC.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 18:17 asciilifeform: keep the 1:1 eaten:shat rule for bots
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759827 << the rule is "one line response" and yes ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759788 << o shit that was one helluva slum. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: works ok for eg torrents, where all data is needed once in no particular order, but blockchain is not torrent. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 17:37 asciilifeform: pushing dun do much for a trb node, who needs at any given time THAT ONE SPECIFIC NEXT block
a111: Logged on 2013-02-10 04:08 benkay: i'm waiting for the developing world to figure it out
mircea_popescu: also, simply !~from:benkay and go to last page.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759732 << but how are you to know. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 16:58 asciilifeform: the rest, variously, went mad
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759720 << nah, apeloyee character also from there iirc. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 16:56 phf: it was literally the case of "milord, i made this basket from only finest of twigs, for your misses. ... bless you, milord"
mircea_popescu: lol the pantsuit spamsites just recycle the same "content" ? who couldve...
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 03:31 shinohai: http://archive.is/vAfjT <<< now THIS is the lulziest thing, to me, of the entire week.
trinque: bot was getting disconnected due to mysterytube reasons. your pm !!up might work now
phf: diana_coman: is working now, ty
phf: ah, the fix copy thing!
diana_coman: I've updated the reference shelf phf, maybe you are missing the previous patch? http://www.dianacoman.com/reference-code-shelf/
phf: so the weird graph indicates that some hunks are missing antecedents, in this case at least test_mpi.c is claiming a previous version that's not in btcbase
diana_coman: is that the trouble?
diana_coman: it does modify a lot of things so it's seen as having antecedents ch1, ch2 and the mpi-fix iirc
diana_coman: I tested it locally with v and v99 and everything pressed fine
diana_coman: I just noticed the weird graph; any idea what?
phf: diana_coman: i think there might be an issue with your ch3
asciilifeform: ^ if anybody knows what kind of prb generates these, and for what, plox to write in.
asciilifeform: !#s type=1073741825
asciilifeform: #!s type=1073741825
asciilifeform: in other oddities: 'EXCEPTION: St12out_of_range \nCInv::GetCommand() : type=1073741825 unknown type \nbitcoin in ProcessMessage() \n'
asciilifeform: 'shakespeare or some other man by that name'
asciilifeform: because as-is, i've nfi who that is.
asciilifeform: phf: ty!