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mircea_popescu: but not on "byte" meaning anything other than what it does, which is to say... "how much the machine takes in at a time" ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( abolishing the otherwise inescapable copying and special-cases )
mircea_popescu: and why the fuck would you maintain it in a place which has no need to maintain it. ffa is free from said flesh.
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform has written on the subj in the past, and will again )
asciilifeform: in that sense binary-logic was the original sin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i understand why the sins of the flesh make this unavoidable. but it's still fucking wrong god damned it all to heck.
asciilifeform: lol i'm for 11bit bytes then!1
asciilifeform: this is a persistent confusion , byte vs register , in mircea_popescu's head, and will have to be cured
asciilifeform: consider the approach in ffa. only critical bottlenecks, that soak up 90+% of cycles and create an impractically-slow rsa op , get massaged ~to the extent necessary~ , and without compromising type safety
mircea_popescu should put this in the very blog in question but plox take out that damned chicken clucking thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nibble was a HALF BYTE! and a byte was REGISTER WIDTH. so no, it wasn't customarily 4, it was customarily half of 8 for as long as registers were 8. nibble today should be 32 bits.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 15:30 mircea_popescu: ll ANSI compliant CL implementations with specialized versions tuned for implementations that offer unboxed 64bit arithmetic, unboxed 32bit arithmetic and for implementations with efficient fixnum arithmetic, i.e. requiring fixnums that can represent (unsigned-byte 16)."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760642 << the part that was never clear to me is 'if speed of clean lisp is inadequate, why not write whole thing in asm; if adequate -- why commit this war crime' ☝︎
asciilifeform: there is not a pill against this; it is why cmachine Must Die
asciilifeform: and, shitgnomery aside even, x86-optimized lispolade is ~always~ nauseating to read
asciilifeform: tho in all fairness the unoptimized 'reference' is at least not immediately nauseating ( https://github.com/pmai/sha3/blob/master/keccak-reference.lisp )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 02:59 phf: i mean, if you read norvig's python snippets you can clearly see they are written by a very experienced lispers. you literally never see python like that in the wild, but yet there it is.
mircea_popescu: a converse of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760179 ie lisp written by imbeciles on the level of phil daian. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> apparently arse technica starved for noosefodder << Aha, notice the throwaway blah blah minoritit afterthought!
asciilifeform: i did read the current item, imho quite ugly
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 15:30 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760601 << "Releases prior to release 1.0.2 had a bug that could lead to input being ignored and hence wrong message digests being calculated for input with repeated calls to sha3-update (see README file for details). Please upgrade as soon as possible, since this bug can lead to unintended collisions in generated message digests." and of course "The library should be portable across nearly a
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760640 << would be interesting to see exactly how this 'bug' looked. but currently can't be arsed to unearth the old crud ( where even is it ) ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: apparently arse technica starved for noosefodder
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 14:57 BingoBoingo: In other pirate radio vs SOP lulz: https://archive.is/AWcBV "When the agents inquired about the nature of Sidos’ relationship with Mr. Polynice, they asserted that they had not seen him in two years. When the agents asked about the unlicensed transmitter, the Sidos alternately refused to respond or claimed that no radio transmitter had been operated on their property since the 2012 in rem seizure... As had occurred during the Augus
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760637 << hilariously, i had previously read the whole thing... on fcc's www. ( they have a public pillory of all citations/fines/complaints/etc ) ☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/jimmy-vestvood-amerikan-hero/ << Trilema - Jimmy Vestvood : Amerikan Hero
mircea_popescu: some cocksucker by the name pierre r. mai
mircea_popescu: in case you were wondering who's putting the bugs in your cars of the future.
asciilifeform: in other noose : zoolag still on tip-of-the-spear, working pretty great.
mircea_popescu: "PMSF IT Consulting is proud to announce its acceptance as a member of ASAM e.V.. As a long time user of ASAM standards, like XCP and A2L, we see the ongoing central role of ASAM as a provider for standards in the embedded domain and beyond, with a special focus on automotive applications."
mircea_popescu: ll ANSI compliant CL implementations with specialized versions tuned for implementations that offer unboxed 64bit arithmetic, unboxed 32bit arithmetic and for implementations with efficient fixnum arithmetic, i.e. requiring fixnums that can represent (unsigned-byte 16)." ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 12:03 shinohai: so far seems to be at least equal to the perl sins that only my confessor, mod6 knows of
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760601 << "Releases prior to release 1.0.2 had a bug that could lead to input being ignored and hence wrong message digests being calculated for input with repeated calls to sha3-update (see README file for details). Please upgrade as soon as possible, since this bug can lead to unintended collisions in generated message digests." and of course "The library should be portable across nearly a ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: And the trb node weather from my perch appears to have improved substantially with regards to nodes at the chaintip since this weekend.
BingoBoingo: t 2015 site visit, the station had been taken off the air when the agents took further field strength measurements immediately after the Sido interview ended."
BingoBoingo: In other pirate radio vs SOP lulz: https://archive.is/AWcBV "When the agents inquired about the nature of Sidos’ relationship with Mr. Polynice, they asserted that they had not seen him in two years. When the agents asked about the unlicensed transmitter, the Sidos alternately refused to respond or claimed that no radio transmitter had been operated on their property since the 2012 in rem seizure... As had occurred during the Augus ☟︎
diana_coman: ah; well, key code that one anyway
mircea_popescu: no, i mean the comments.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 23:37 mircea_popescu is also happy at how diana_coman 's code veers towards literate style. you've seen this phf ?
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759948 <- do you mean the references and substrata? ☝︎
deedbot: shinohai updated rating of danielpbarron from 2 to 3 << #eulora Elder and merchant, operates rare ecu faucet. Bible markup project in #trilema-church
shinohai apologizes for the rate spam
BingoBoingo: Also the LISA operating system is supposed to be open sourced soon
BingoBoingo: Apple's own, choosing the letter "J" with a bite taken out of the side."
BingoBoingo: And guess who the wops beat in court: "Brothers Vincenzo and Giacomo Barbato named their clothing brand "Steve Jobs" in 2012 after learning that Apple had not trademarked his name. "We did our market research and we noticed that Apple, one of the best known companies in the world, never thought about registering its founder's brand, so we decided to do it," the two told la Repubblica Napoli. The Barbatos designed a logo that resembles
BingoBoingo: Instead of slow river barges taking away the corn to serve as feedstock for who knows what chemistry
deedbot: shinohai updated rating of BingoBoingo from 3 to 4 << For services rendered to tmsr in LATAM in futherance of true isp and the rich documentation of his travails
BingoBoingo: And it is taking some getting used to going out to the river and not being able to see the other side. And also seeing two way ship traffic with... big ass ships
shinohai: !!rate BingoBoingo 4 For services rendered to tmsr in LATAM in futherance of true isp and the rich documentation of his travails
BingoBoingo: And re: keeping up with chaintips - Quite a few big as ships lined up off short waiting for their turn in port.
deedbot: shinohai updated rating of diana_coman from 2 to 3 << too much hard work to list, EuCrypt has helped me tremendously.
shinohai: !!rate diana_coman 3 too much hard work to list, EuCrypt has helped me tremendously.
shinohai: And no cardboard houses! Does he read trilema?
BingoBoingo: We will have to see
shinohai: so far seems to be at least equal to the perl sins that only my confessor, mod6 knows of ☟︎
mod6: will see if I can clean it up a bit more tomorrow.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 02:57 phf: that would be a very gruesome science fiction narrative, if that was actually the case. a kind of strugatsky's roadside picnic :>
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760176 <- ahahah, feels like it at times, yes! ☝︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760508 <- fixed, thanks! ☝︎
trinque is quite excited at that
trinque: I admit to having wanted as little irc autism in my head as would make the thing go.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 03:28 asciilifeform: in other non-news, ben_vulpes yer ircbot thing dun work with znc. for the obvious reason of containing magicstring-expectation liquishit.
asciilifeform: yea, but think 'with lower case c'
phf: oh yeah, you mentioned this before..
asciilifeform: e.g. 'spaces muchly less important than printables'
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 01:44 esthlos: fwiw I read McIlroy's paper and would be willing to implement it _transparently_, if there's interest
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 03:09 phf: but then i can also understand the whole "back in my day" sentiment. common lisp certainly lets you write ~very sloppy~ code and get away with it :>
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760185 << it is unreasonable to ask ~machine~ to enforce intellectual discipline. machine cannot do this, it's an 'ai-complete' problem. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 03:05 esthlos: even with small C projects I start to panic when I realise I don't know how it works anymore
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760183 << you really ought not to touch c unless you can picture in yer head the asm , when reading it; and vice-versa ( for your particular iron ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: there is such a thing as maliciously-ugly c. i.e. what koch et al write.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 03:02 esthlos: elegant C exists, but the limits of the language the complexity it can handle without exploding into incomprehensibility.
phf: sounds like a decade update attempt to cryptonomicon
asciilifeform: 'reamde'. but there is rumour that he had 0 to do with the text, let some idjit relative pen it
asciilifeform: i swallowed not only 1 but 2 pieces of rubbish from post-anathem stephenson and that was enuff.
phf: i suspect the spectacular failure of his sword project is what sent him downspiral
asciilifeform: 'anathem' is many things, and one of them is a what-if-naturalphilosophy-had-happened-in-monasteries.
asciilifeform: d00d (stephenson) 'got it'. and as i understand it was his 'last hurrah', he went to shit soon after.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 04:32 phf: well, glass bead game is not really derivative, but Anathem that we often mention here with ascii is
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760494 << 'anathem' is prolly the 1 'sf' item written in usa in past 20-30y worth taking home ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 02:57 esthlos: it seems specifically designed to reduce the intelligence of the programmer to what a manager can understand
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760177 << funny, im pretty sure this was in the logs. as a naggum quote. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760175 << musta started way the fuck up there then huh :D ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: they were major factor in why there even IS a papacy in the first place, though.
phf: that's better track record than templars :>
mircea_popescu: the item was only formally sacked by the revolution.
mircea_popescu: without dispute it lasted for at least... hm, i think there's ten between berno and peter ?
phf: i sort of assumed (and that was sometimes topic of these derivative works) that mandate doesn't last more then a generation or two
mircea_popescu: a sorta miller-nin "payability test" if you will.
mircea_popescu: i expect the way these generally work is, starved copywriter threw some shit together while hungover. since it was bought he put a little more work into it later on.
phf: well, glass bead game is not really derivative, but Anathem that we often mention here with ascii is ☟︎
phf: but in all the derivative work soveirgnty is deliberate
mircea_popescu: in plain terms of the literary quality of the story, this approach seems to me weaker.
phf: it's not the case for canticle (where it is sort of accidental, in a sense that "everything's so fucked that nobody cares, but when they do we have Electric Light!")
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 19:01 mircea_popescu: do they even give out tenures anymore ?
mircea_popescu: still, the whole reason for the (false, by the way) pretense to eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757073 carried over to this very day was that "the trick worked for cluny", ten centuries ago. and so following. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, the important part in the actual history is that the abbey was de facto sovereign ~deliberately~, set up that way by the duke on purpose. i dun recall exactly the us retcon, but it was accidental if memory serves ? which is already a reduction, in my view.
mircea_popescu: should prolly paste his inferior lisp screencap in that early mac screen.
phf: saint asciilifeform right there http://www.uni-muenster.de/imperia/md/images/fruehmittelalter/mon-cl.jpg
mircea_popescu: there is A REASON "european civilisation" bla bla, and that reason is the remarkable stability introduced through unlikely means. a sort of humour.