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mp_en_viaje: the same sort of naivity permeates throughout, "oh, the dollar will crash". doesn't enter his mind to wonder "against what". it's been sorta-kinda crashing against the euro, i guess, but i mean look at the fucking euro. the whole fucking concept of the dubaloo is that "it hasn't what to crash against" ; and everyone's complicit -- the chinese sure as fuck don't want it crashing against themselves, for instance. the republic's pretty much t
ossabot: Logged on 2017-08-16 15:28:19 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect the gold people are very subjectively hurt by bitcoin doing what gold "Was supposed to do" and haet.
mp_en_viaje: the principal problem with the approach is that the guy is a radio personality, his statements are never that i've seen structured enough to constitute meaningful prediction. they're closer to statements of sentiment, and the value of sentiments depends chiefly on what your sentiments for the sentiment-er are. if it turned out nancy pelosi loved you deeply what'd it pay ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-14 15:01:02 trinque: most of these failures in my own life amounted to mp_en_viaje's "toward purpose", i.e. they were narcissists reaching for objects conjured in their own imaginations, primarily to create the feedback necessary to sustain said narcissism.
diana_coman: quite possibly, I can see it.
mp_en_viaje: i expect there's shit that still requires the same re-read and re-write it did back before the berlin wall.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, truth be told there's this immense, but i do mean IMMENSE pile of accumulated tech debt via "i'll do it tomorrow" device
diana_coman: so you have to flex the bison, no other reason that I can see.
mp_en_viaje: in the same vein i suspect bison is massively suboptimal wrt algorithms chosen, elegance of implementation, length, pretty much everything. would prolly greatly beenfit from a rewrite.
diana_coman: the usual "we're innovating aka corrupting because reasons", as far as I see it, yes.
mp_en_viaje: i get it, thing comes with supposed full sources that supposedly build ; i don't know that anyone worth any confidence even tried to in the past however many years. it's still building the wrong way, what the fuck os-awareness of power button. whole fucking point of even having a power butto nin the first place is to have an ALTERNATIVE control mechanism to the operating system.
diana_coman: I don't really have anything to offer as a counterargument to that.
mp_en_viaje: i can't think of any desirable element in it whatsoever.
mp_en_viaje: honestly i'd much prefer an acpi-free machine, myself.
diana_coman: well yes; and there are also C-specific annoyances but I don't think *those* are his fault now either.
diana_coman: he'll end up doing a 3rd regrind of that genesis but once he does it, I'll sign and mirror it.
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-12-14 diana_coman: jfw: I went through your keksum proggy and it's been quite a pleasure really; a few nitpicks on top of those: 1. why default/fallthrough on "bad option" instead of the more useful help option? 2. you have nicely \t everywhere except in usage_err in main.c where it's \s 3. just out of curiosity re
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-14 14:01:10 trinque: totally solvable problem, and I expect what you'd do ends up looking what I've been working on.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-14#1955358 << i don't think they've been thinking about it before in these terms ; but yes solvable. what's more : not only solvable, but beneficially solvable. it's one thing when cleaning up the place is approachable ; it's another thing when cleaning up the place not only is approachable, but actually approaching it necessarily provides an answer to why your scissors kept disappearing. as th
trinque: in reading her logs, I couldn't agree with her more. bbl
dorion_road: trinque I'll circle back to that in a bit, talking with diana_coman in #o
trinque: i.e. "if we just let markets work" etc., the libertarian thing where the forces that aggregate into govt "just" wise up.
trinque: most of these failures in my own life amounted to mp_en_viaje's "toward purpose", i.e. they were narcissists reaching for objects conjured in their own imaginations, primarily to create the feedback necessary to sustain said narcissism.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955317 << I've certainly found that to be the case in opening up and asking diana_coman help me kill my stupidity.
trinque: this isn't an insult btw; I've been a part of several that did.
dorion_road: the ceo and cto of coinapult spun off a development company and I did some consulting with them, but they didn't finish the software they started and I transitioned to work with jfw.
dorion_road: in 2013 I met evoorhees in Panama, and took a job with Coinapult in 2014 to run customer service. I did some business development and got exposure to qa for the ~year that lasted.
dorion_road: yeah, it was fun and I learned/grew a lot. can for sure think of worse ways to spend one's 22nd and 23rd years.
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-16 dorion: in 2010 I came across Peter Schiff, American investor who forecast 2008 financial crisis. this opened me up to seriously exploring what things are and ultimately lead me to decide by spring 2011 I would do what I had to do to work for him. in January 2012, he advertised openings for commission only sales people to move out of usia and work for his new bank, www.europacbank.com .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 22:25:10 mp_en_viaje: actually, i don't recall you ever saying, either of you ever been involved with start-ups in any capacity ?
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955315 << I shared a bit in #o a couple months back, and have some overdue articles to publish detailing, but the short is I worked 2 years for euro pacific bank, a start up at the time.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 22:20:10 mp_en_viaje: his saving grace is that his clients are in fact very similar idiots in the relevant aspects, which is why i said well targetted. that's the key to success, always find a group of such idiots that, ideally, don't even realise it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 22:17:31 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1955056 << it's hard because the flow of money through your business determines the shape of your product, which is to double down on what I said above. skillfully done, you accumulate a generally useful set of tools and the job gets easier, til eventually it's more of a product play than consulting
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955286 << thanks! I look forward to any comments/questions
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 22:05:33 trinque: I am particularly aggressive to this, it being isomorphic to the church environment in which I was raised.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955279 << systemd now, what, a couple million lines of C ? 'open source', i.e. shit that's not microsoft.
trinque: I skipped it in cuntoo as well, for equally bad reasons.
dorion_road: ^^ I meant to link this one http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955271
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 22:00:11 trinque: nah, I'm going to do my best to uncoil the spring.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-14 14:01:10 trinque: totally solvable problem, and I expect what you'd do ends up looking what I've been working on.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-14#1955358 << nice, I'd definitely like to read more about what you're working on.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-14#1955357 << I think the source tarballs are available on the mirror. A problem with not publishing has been this source distribution is only being worked through now. I'll let jfw comment further.
trinque: I don't think you expect to actually be yourselves patching acpica autoconf automake bash bc bison bzip2 cl-hyperspec clisp dash db flex gales-util gcc64 git gnupg less libevent libressl libusb links m4 man-pages man-pages-posix mandoc ncurses nginx ocaml openssh patch pciutils perl php56 py-setuptools python python-docs qmail readline redis sbcl sqlite sqlite-doc tmux ucspi-tcp vim xz zlib
trinque: ^ it's this I mean by "let money flow over it, and let money shape it"
trinque: "While I have striven to make prudent and security-conscious choices, I am not attempting to keep up with the "penetrate and patch" rat-race in its many third-party components." << This is somewhat concerning, in that you say "eh" about the "many third-party components". I'd instead try for the minimal possible bootable src surface area.
trinque: or wait, jfw I think?
trinque: totally solvable problem, and I expect what you'd do ends up looking what I've been working on.
trinque: at any rate, I consider myself heard on the hubris cycle, and I've already committed to a few bile-soaked pieces on linux and other things.
diana_coman: trinque: you are not unpleasant company that I see, no.
trinque: you realize where I live the aggression threshold for "unpleasant company" is set way higher, or no?
diana_coman: and just to be on the clear side: it's not against "loudly saying X is foolhardy", not at all; if it's not clear though, I'll give it a rest.
diana_coman: trinque: the comparison OS/protestantism made sense; I get the allergy to hubris cycle too, now that you say it explicitly; my point above was though precisely re loud-before-crashed esp given the long silence -punctured at times briefly, sure- before that; ie the outbursts themselves I get but I don't see to be very useful really.
trinque: if there's anything to which I'm developing an allergy, it's the hubris cycle.
trinque: diana_coman: I'm not going to do the "hurr, be a man and toil in this mountain of boy's cumsocks" thread again.
diana_coman: I guess so.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, well yeah but i mean, before it fails all pig iron's perfectly respectable. after, you find out it had a bubble.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 22:11:41 mp_en_viaje: i dont know, man. from where i'm sitting, and i'll readily admit i'm not some sort of linux scholar over here, it seems to me torvalds came in two decades ago on a sorta-kinda wishy-washy platform, and a bunch of perfectly respectable men went with him because well, sorta-kinda wishy-washy is better than nothing, and because being an engineers they didn't know better. they were, so to speak, pre-headfucked by pant
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955290 - this sounds right to me although I rather hesitate on the "perfectly respectable" - I mean, precisely not so perfectly given the "pre-headfucked" as you put it (and I'm not sure it's that at all ie some external rather than internal lack).
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 22:05:33 trinque: I am particularly aggressive to this, it being isomorphic to the church environment in which I was raised.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 21:58:40 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, it can't be the size, i tested this
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955265 - maybe it's something specific to the 3d block there that messes it up though it's not all that likely (if for no other reason than the basic 1. at first it worked 2. it still works as a separate footnote); anyways, I don't think it's worth the time right now to chase it fully.
mp_en_viaje: everyone.does. every leak i ever got was excel. no exceptions.
trinque: dork I know does this in oil
trinque: and I'm certain his tech for keeping track of which wire's going to whom, who's getting their dubaloos put in what paper, is primitive.
mp_en_viaje: not you lol, i know about you.
trinque: I've started and sold and etc, yes
mp_en_viaje: actually, i don't recall you ever saying, either of you ever been involved with start-ups in any capacity ?
mp_en_viaje: his saving grace is that his clients are in fact very similar idiots in the relevant aspects, which is why i said well targetted. that's the key to success, always find a group of such idiots that, ideally, don't even realise it.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 04:14:42 trinque: I've been in that business. It's hard, wish them well.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-11 17:08:41 dorion_road: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1954854 << if you're up for it, I'd also like to read about your experience there.
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1955056 << it's hard because the flow of money through your business determines the shape of your product, which is to double down on what I said above. skillfully done, you accumulate a generally useful set of tools and the job gets easier, til eventually it's more of a product play than consulting
mp_en_viaje: the switch part was i suppose self-obvious to anyone but me.
trinque: that's a better bridge from protestantism to gentooism than I could've built.
mp_en_viaje: i dont know, man. from where i'm sitting, and i'll readily admit i'm not some sort of linux scholar over here, it seems to me torvalds came in two decades ago on a sorta-kinda wishy-washy platform, and a bunch of perfectly respectable men went with him because well, sorta-kinda wishy-washy is better than nothing, and because being an engineers they didn't know better. they were, so to speak, pre-headfucked by pantsuit agitprop, like cult-r
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 18:39:12 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 03:56:53 trinque: but gentoo's a piece of shit. if it's not apparent why, I'll definitely have to say why.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-11 17:02:10 dorion_road: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1954839 << I'd say it's worth spelling out once and for all in an article, I'd read and comment. Publishing it would probably be cathartic too.
trinque: I am particularly aggressive to this, it being isomorphic to the church environment in which I was raised.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 03:53:10 trinque: what is it you think I'm signaling to diana_coman's bunch?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-11 17:01:08 dorion_road: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1954831 << perhaps I'm dull, but I'd appreciate it stated plainly in texan straight talk.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 22:27:34 trinque: I'm going to write something on why eating a product of socialists is stupid, and if we must eat shit, eating the least shit is the move.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 22:34:51 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
trinque: nah, I'm going to do my best to uncoil the spring.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, it can't be the size, i tested this
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1954934 << I've meanwhile reviewed the article http://trilema.com/2019/the-contemplated-update-to-the-trilema-voice-model/
diana_coman: I fixed the issue though it's rather weird: for one thing I distinctly rememvber it was *fine* ie all of it in a footnote so not sure what/when broke, ugh; for the other, I had to split it into 2 footnotes - it was *fine* to take 2 <blockquote> spans but not the 3rd? wtf is this.
BingoBoingo: But I suppose this is how the USG press agents keep up with the times. They scroll back the logs 5 years and pretend the conversation was their own.
BingoBoingo: Lol, I saw the carrier piece's title on another site.
BingoBoingo: At the same time China's floating a free-ish trade agreement with Uruguay's next government, yet to be published. I suspect the aim is among other things... to cut out the Miami based re-shippers.
BingoBoingo: God bless china buying all the New World food stuffs. I suspect Buenos Aires is prepping to do another run of export controls on beef now that their production's sorta recovered a decade later.
mp_en_viaje: honestly i see no further point to europe. other than the high rents, the whiteboys north of the mediterranean are just as african as the black boys south.
BingoBoingo: In one of the few times History and Montevideo intersected
mp_en_viaje: i mean, the orcs visibly still imagine some kind of similar miami, across various orclands. but this is very flimsy existence indeed.
mp_en_viaje: but somehow i just can't quite manage. what society ? what anything really, compare 1989 mtv with 2019 mtv, what "music" ? what anything ?
mp_en_viaje: seems about as fake as "industry" or "economy", a putative imagined item, i'm supposed to believe "everything's online" just like i'm supposed to believe 0-value items are "an industry"
diana_coman: yeah, well, not exactly my interests, what can I say.
diana_coman: I tend to stress them out by taking a book with me, but I still resent-the-fucking-time-it-takes.
diana_coman: what can I say, I'll end up again with very-long-hair out of hating women's haircutters, lolz.
mp_en_viaje: i expect not.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-01-28 00:58:37 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other chicks can code moments, "I earned my degree and license in cosmetology and had a horrible career as a hair dresser that I ended in 2015 due to social anxiety. I still love hair theory, and I even really enjoy working on people with whom I share a close relationship, but now I'm in pursuit of a new path."