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pete_dushenski: bah. the more valuable chain wins. in whose eyes though, i can't say
asciilifeform: the climategate thing is why i do not credit mircea_popescu's hypothesis re: orlov being a minion of moscow. orlov fellates the boston harvaprinceyaleton liberast-wing-usg orthodoxy
asciilifeform: he wrote a piece ~literally~, i shit thee not, arguing that it Does Not Count Because Stolen
mats: got a suggestion? I'll lay out a couple coins for it
mats: I am considering how to word the terms of a bet regarding the fall of Baghdad in a year's time
mats: I can't think of anyone capable of opposing them on the field
mats: I suspect daesh anticipated this play (not the first time its been used) and exploited USG willingness to aid
mod6: I'll add it to my to-do list ;]
mod6: not sure if I wanna use trac or anything at this point.. but some cosideration is warrented for /something/ resonable for at least personal use.
mod6: (19:17) <+ben_vulpes> mod6 probably has his own as well. << mine is basically a by hand list. it really needs some attention/tlc. I gotta get something more structured.
mod6: and i'm running a fever now. annoying.
mod6: i've sneezed about 34 times today.
mircea_popescu: i got some sort of low cold too
mats: it may be that i remembered it incorrectly, i am only partially literate and recall the phrase from a translation of a ming text
mats: funkenstein_: i am having difficulty finding the source of the idiom (and subsequently how it is properly written) but the second half does not parse
mats: FTR, i do actually believe that Bush et. al were naive enough to believe AFG/IRQ needed and wanted democracy
assbot: Despite Alert, Flawed Wiring Still Kills G.I.’s - New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1FiiUo4 )
mats: dunno about that. from intel i've gathered, it appears KBR did the raping here
mircea_popescu: tis the truth. i personally wouldn't work with a rogue entity even if it promises "rly for srs" to cover my legal costs.
mircea_popescu: (to cuantify, i stopped counting at 500.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform on your node and each and every other node i know of.
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 23:50:16; mircea_popescu: i have a mile of logs showing the behaviour without exception.
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 23:53:24; mircea_popescu: and no stack's not fucking germane. he was trying to insulate HIS INCOME. i was discussing optimizing YOUR EXPENDITURE. not like items.
mircea_popescu: and no stack's not fucking germane. he was trying to insulate HIS INCOME. i was discussing optimizing YOUR EXPENDITURE. not like items. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i have a mile of logs showing the behaviour without exception. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i hope you're awake for this one
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1259268 << also recall the several threads where i explained that not only are virtually all of my expenses (and 100% of income) denominated in usd, but specifically the insta-trackable electronic kind. ☝︎
hanbot: hey, i have some of those too!
asciilifeform: hanbot: these are not 'holes' as such, in that i was aware of them from hour 0.
asciilifeform: comical idiocy, and i have no way around it presently
asciilifeform: phf: and i have a half-written version of that. somewhere
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 22:21:22; phf: asciilifeform: what about something like this http://paste.lisp.org/display/154647, put a flag on sighup, put a couple of checks (i'm not sure if my guess as far as mainloop is correct) for the flag, do a stop the world snapshot. can have it running normally, periodically send kill -HUP ...
ben_vulpes: hanbot: i once cooked up a wiki page on the topic. has since languished, rotted, died.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1258801 << you and i i think are coming at this from the wrong angle. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: since when have i implemented anything, hanbot?!
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1258779 << i'm aware of "tx dumper" as a TODO item that alf gives a shit about and that's more or less all. everything else is in his and mircea_popescu's heads. ☝︎
trinque: well, I should say, it is a move you ought to be prepared to back up.
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 17:16:07; ascii_field: i can't help but wonder if someone is getting a red star pinned on his uniform in moscow, for having planted this bug
trinque: ah, then I'm way behind
phf: asciilifeform: what about something like this http://paste.lisp.org/display/154647, put a flag on sighup, put a couple of checks (i'm not sure if my guess as far as mainloop is correct) for the flag, do a stop the world snapshot. can have it running normally, periodically send kill -HUP ... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i think i said it before, but anyway : the important thing about a beating isn't the actual beating, but the part that forces the recipient to internalise he has no recourse.
ascii_field: i mean, it was happily spreading microbes in own cities, as early as '60s
trinque: I think it will behave ever more incoherently until it shakes apart entirely
trinque: I am prepping to move cross-country, so I can't make hard commitments re: time this week or next; however I don't mind taking a look at phuctor's db use at all.
jurov: also, i suspect i recently started using more proxies, which may have exacerbated the problem.. it's arduous to research, not done yet
jurov: and i complained numerous times here, too
jurov: if i had to stop it every time there's unexpected balance discrepance, that would be several times per day
mats: in the future some prior notification would be nice so i could shift into neutral
ascii_field: i personally would not be very astonished to end up killed in some variation on this theme.
ascii_field: thestringpuller: i only ~wish~ i could avoid leaving house
mircea_popescu: i do care about airing air for the next two months.
mircea_popescu: i don't care about the site being down an hour a day, to save its guts.
ascii_field: potentially folks could even submit 'i know a factor for modulus m!' into a box somewhere, regardless of why
jurov: i appreciate very much. but can't readily imagine this situation
ascii_field: jurov: and i don't ~do~ www
mircea_popescu: "I was amazed that they were able to persuade RMS not to block the conversion to C++, and as the article points out, five years of plugins have not led to disaster;"
ascii_field: probably i ought to explain why.
ascii_field: but do not have the time, and don't know when i will.
mircea_popescu: "i will now say some words about your position after which we disregard it and replace it with mine. MAGIC!!1"
ascii_field: oh certainly i must rewrite it
mircea_popescu: "I recognize that you don't want me to "change the subject" to refactoring, but I don't see this as a change of subject."
mircea_popescu: yeah. maybe i manage to shoot one.
mircea_popescu: this i wish to see.
ascii_field: if i can put a 12v lead-acid cell in the 1u colo,
kakobrekla: i know!
mircea_popescu: i thought it was a coupla weeks.
kakobrekla: when the phuctor is down i guess.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't fault you for ignoring them. i would fault you for "handling" an undefined concept in a weird way.
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 20:19:54; mircea_popescu: i'm spending a lot more than 1k / mo on hosting. in fact i spend more on servers living space than on women living space, for my sins ;/
mats: so, practically, i shouldn't even bother handling revocation signatures?
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 03:34:04; assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 21:44:05; ascii_field: i'm kinda curious why mircea_popescu considers a new key signed with a previous key to not be a logical continuation of the same identity. (is it because of the impossibility of hard-guaranteed revocation, as discussed in previous thread?)
mats: because search is broken i am having trouble discovering the revocation thread. anyone have a link, or would mind explaining implications for e.g. keyserver?
mircea_popescu: and his solution to it was a sort of "so i'll release just the tip"
mircea_popescu: anyway, basically stallman saw the problem of "if i release bitcoin then the twerps will get it and pretend to be using it, and then pretend to be improving on it and soon enough it will be indistinguishable from the sort of shit that it was made to kill. because the source of the shit drowning us is neither god nor the aliens nor unforseen circumstances - it's the lesser apes we insist on calling humans for no reason."
mircea_popescu: i'm spending a lot more than 1k / mo on hosting. in fact i spend more on servers living space than on women living space, for my sins ;/ ☟︎
ascii_field: jurov: well yes, i will not be doing it personally, unfortunately
ascii_field: certainly 2btc doesn't buy so much as a parking space here where ~i~ live
jurov: yes i meant at that price
jurov: ascii_field: you relish in impossible requirements, don't you? i just that ... palpable improvement over some box no one in the wot ever saw, is possible
mike_c: I guess he trusts you not to muck with his comment more than to get the payments right :)
ascii_field: jurov: kinda why i want to place arbitrary hardware of my own making in there
jurov: but i suspect the features you ask and the price will diverge considerably :(
mircea_popescu: jurov in general, worth asking to get very clear answers because in principle i would be interested, but i have to clearly know what i'm interested in.
jurov: yes, i understand. if it can be locked only together with other boxen, will say so
ascii_field: jurov: if this were me, and here in this town, i would set up the batteries, tamper sensors, mains loggers, camera...
jurov: since i planned a rack onyl once so far, not something i'm proud of
jurov: mircea_popescu: yes i will ask about the locking and exact dimensions. also will need someone to make the shopping list and plan,
mircea_popescu: am i the only one getting spam from people trying to push blog-on-app "solutions" ?
ascii_field: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=40+rods+per+hogshead+in+mpg
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> or, alternatively, failing to do anything on account of waiting << i could give some examples of this, but of dubious actual substance.
mike_c: I don't think that issue is phrased quite right. I'm not looking to get someone else to do anything.
phf: i think at issue is not really collision, but getting someone else to construct a todo list for you..
phf: mike_c: ah but it's not true that nobody has those lists. ascii has one, i'm sure does mp, mod6 and ben_vulpes. i keep one too from reading the logs in a text file
mike_c: But I agree with your point about avoiding a lot of unsigned commentary
mike_c: I think we may be close to the line.
ascii_field: however, i am not convinced that merely following the conversation here is not bugtracky enough
mike_c: ah, but i see your point. mailing list is signed, this wouldn't be.
mike_c: No, just every patch. I'll fiddle with it and see if anything interesting happens.
mike_c: patches are signed, so I don't see why tampering wouldn't be evident.
mike_c: trac is opensource. I bet I could integrate V.