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asciilifeform: ^ see old threadz also
mircea_popescu: !#s terry ritter
mircea_popescu: "what do small children and technical men have in common ?" "they're not scholars" "oh."
asciilifeform: by the time 'idea man' has it
asciilifeform: the 1 thing children/telegraphers lack, is any contact with history; typically 'idea' was tried seven ways to pluto
mircea_popescu: so i just went "wtf, there's no mention of this site in the logs" and it turns out that... yes there is, you gave it to me last year. lol.
asciilifeform: folx who haven't put on the standard blinkers yet , aha
mircea_popescu: anyone at "inventions bureau" can confirm -- there's a profile of technical employee matching type of commonly-seen "invention"
mircea_popescu: it's what i'd call "a telegraphist's intuition". there are these things that are particularily irksome/obvious to technical men (ie, not very intelligent) and small children.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-31#1761777 << asciilifeform confesses, he wrote one of these as a schoolboy. but never tried to sell as 'troo crypto' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: of [preselected] idiots is a major, if not the principal source of discovery ; something i know from personal experience for my own needs, if the theory weren't enough.)
mircea_popescu: (as it happens here -- the year being 1991 lubby was still a decade away, and fountain codes poorly understood, so a honest mind might very well have ended up predating lubby through the exercise of trying to make a decent answer for this particular idiot. which process is exactly why "universities" exist in the first place, and teaching all-but-inescapable for researchers : it turns out that answering the malformed questions ☟︎
mircea_popescu: thirty years later people will grin at the record.
mircea_popescu: but what it's truly interesting for, is just how disingenuous bernstein's "destruction" is. instead of a curt, and correct, "go study OTP and when you understand that, move up to lubby", he picks the wrong end of the mechanism to improperly reduce to a strawman. this is the risk of arguing with idiots -- if you're a normal person your social adjustment circuitry might entice you to make idiotic arguments in response and then
mircea_popescu: shit's fucking epic, an all-in-one manual on how to not design crypto, how to not communicate your design, how to not think and so on.
mircea_popescu: in which vein : people despising "inept schoolchildren" who scribble their names on trees/wet cement/whatever forget (by which euphemism we render "never had any fucking idea") who actually started that trend.
mircea_popescu: people despising "script kiddies" for their varied ineptitudes (of which insecure pipes are a fine example) forgets that there was a time when the "best and brightest" founders-of-whatever did the exact same.
mircea_popescu: in other things that are pretty fucking hysterical, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.security/sIuDoPz0vyk
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=rms << this may be interesting, but read it from the bottom up
mircea_popescu: zineKing the problem here is an asymmetry, whereby we started ~where you are maybe 5 years ago, and then knowledge progressed.
asciilifeform: i for instance dug through lmi code base, that was leaked to me ( and iirc public for some yrs) , looked for interesting rmsism
mircea_popescu: maybe if we're sexually intimate and respecter's underage, but even then... only briefly and still maybe.
mircea_popescu: i do not intend to be respected on the basis of "i can't explain why" if at all possible.
zineKing: Not much might be written by him, but he is the founder.. Therefore he should be respected, just like I believe the founder of The Most Serene Republic ought to be respected.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well there was that time he showed up at what-was-it-called mpex-wannabe and got some lunch money from amir taaki neh.
asciilifeform: gpl, for instance ( ignoring for a moment that it has 0 to do with computing ) was created by moglen
asciilifeform: zineKing: show an actual item, written by the man's own hand ?
mircea_popescu: zineKing how do you unpack this "gnu" symbol in your own head ?
mircea_popescu: preferably one that doesn't consist of "tried to", that's what my slavegirls say before getting the whip
zineKing: He is to be respected for his contributions to compsci.
mircea_popescu: that's the echafaudage the whole "export controls" and "microsoft monopoly" and etc wrangling in the 90s and 00s was supposed to distract from : please choose between empire and the socialst alternative!
asciilifeform: i can only with difficulty picture any of these folx, e.g. reading marx.
mircea_popescu: it goes directly to the ugly truth at the bottom of the alt-usg (referenced above as 'cryptographic komyoonity' but rms's goons too [recently i've been seeing pompous "explanations" as to how linux is not a thing, it's just gnu os that matters btw]) : pure socialism.
asciilifeform: gotta luvv 'improperly destroy the economic value' phrase
mircea_popescu: lotta that yea
asciilifeform: 'March 7, 2003 - The SCO Group filed legal action against IBM in the State Court of Utah for trade secrets misappropriation, tortious interference, unfair competition and breach of contract. The complaint alleges that IBM made concentrated efforts to improperly destroy the economic value of UNIX, particularly UNIX on Intel, to benefit IBM's Linux services business.'
mircea_popescu: pretty sure i implement a variant every third time i do anything with pointers.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 21:37 mircea_popescu: phf and if you don't share with heathens, make it so !!shelf returns a pile encrypted to my key for instance, nothing wrong with that.
mircea_popescu: is that so ?
asciilifeform: tells recipient thing he dun have any biznis knowing , tho
mircea_popescu: the great age of the bb was cool because of the bang. for instance : Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!lll-winken!~~~~elroy.jpl.nasa.gov~~~!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!yoyo.aarnet.edu.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!spam!ross
asciilifeform: so either 500+ d00dz all suffered exactly same dementia on same timetable, or.
asciilifeform: the 'illicit exporters' of '90s are today's 'cryptographic komyoonity'
asciilifeform: going by 'by their fruits, know them' heuristic.
mircea_popescu: funny you should mention that, because literally next line, From: Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk>
asciilifeform: not even the tattooist d00d
asciilifeform still not convinced that it wasn't a psyop, to build up street cred for schneiers . 0 convictions, 0 sentences, for 'pgp smugglers' afaik.
asciilifeform: lol the '90s 'cryptoexport' muppet theatre
mircea_popescu: btw, that's a decent string for his early bb posts, back when he was a dicklet at nyu.
asciilifeform: ~errybody has ownbox in '80s, trick question
mircea_popescu: nobody runs a bot on his home fucking computer ffs, why would they
mircea_popescu: ANY bot can get past this dumb shit, it's entirely constructed out of "and then nobody has their own box"
asciilifeform: i can think of moarinfuriating
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's possibly the most ignorant and outright infuriating "security" i could think of
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the record : nothing in the world fucking easier than socat -u tcp-1:113,fork system:./say_mp.sh
mircea_popescu: it's been like one year since the first.
asciilifeform: oddlyenuff these negged-in-absentia folx never seem to come to pick up their 'award' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is a reminder to future self : plox negrate countercomplex / viznut on sight ty. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: well, im not going to read the rest of this, he can go fuck himself.
mircea_popescu: gimme a fucking break, freenode is >100k cucks logged in any one day and there's still 0 content anywhere.
mircea_popescu: right, because a guy who wrote something interesting in 2014 (free and unpaid for google's ezine he abandoned a year later) is spreading pearls of wisdom about there.
asciilifeform: betcha this keeps out ALL winblows users
asciilifeform: for 1 thing, it cannot work behind nat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dunthink there is a 1980s identd app for ipnoje.
asciilifeform: nao asciilifeform wonders if there's an irc net that requires you to, say, collide a sha1, before you can log in
mircea_popescu: (who will just shuffle through "apps" on their "phone" until one "works")
mircea_popescu: mno, it's not the equivalent of "to enter this door, you must solve this puzzle". it's the equivalent of "to enter this door, you must suck this cock". so it allows strictly the indiancandies
asciilifeform: takes some sweat to emulate whateverd auth, neh
mircea_popescu: so it's not a minefield, it's a "must be this short to ride" thing
mircea_popescu: no, see, that was the original theory. but now the "mines" are specifically targetted to thinking people.
mircea_popescu: explain this to me.
mircea_popescu: the guy you linked lives on an irc network that does the EXACT equivalent of "we dug up this OBSCURE, DECADES OLD "you must run this software to play WoW" sorta nonsense.
asciilifeform: ancient idiocies that ~nobody even remembers existed!
mircea_popescu: so the guy you linked, yes ?
mircea_popescu: (Closing Link: [unknown@b.clients.kiwiirc.com] (K-lined: BSP - Enable identd for access)) << now look into what that is lmao.
mircea_popescu: check it fucking out, irc.cs.hut.fi also drops conns. i'm starting to suspect this is the kiwi client rather than the servers. lessee here
asciilifeform: nao this is so
mircea_popescu: because srsly, it's better being born a nigger in alabama than being born a krautz in germany.
asciilifeform: in a time of decay, when what comes in is commissars, minefield is +ev
mircea_popescu: did anyone mention german folk are fucked in the head for reason of being born there yet ?
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER, this has no bearing on how things work irl. irl, bigger minefield, dumber villagers.
mircea_popescu: this is what i introduce as "the mmorpg fallacy" to the slavegirls. it's true that in mmorpgs some obscure vilage in the fucking mountains has the BEST fucking weapons + plasma armor and whatnot while the imperial capital somehow makes do with cotton rags and sharpened sticks to kill the rats.
mircea_popescu: so far they end up with a "holy shit brains are broken"
asciilifeform: these expeditions always seem to end with a catv. but asciilifeform looks forward to reading the postmortem.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck does one connect.
mircea_popescu: and their linked webchat (webchat.xs4all.nl) dies
asciilifeform: 'It is an "anarchistic" network without the channel services and nickname services you may find on other networks but this is deliberate since this is how IRC was designed to be used and our users tend to prefer it this way'
mircea_popescu: one way to find out.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's pretty old, i have nfi whether d00d still in the saddle
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that thing is making me join ircnet!
mircea_popescu: the "society" as a usg captive item, that thing ? the ghetto jewry of 2017, about to make pretty ash piles by 2040 ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in imperial narratives, "Parker Lewis Retweeted Vitalik Buterin This about sums it up, @brian_armstrong retweeting @vitalikbuterin about how creating sound money (not controlled by government) is not a meaningful achievement for society, the first thing that finally caused me to tweet"
mircea_popescu: and in other "here's what i stole off trilema", https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSKW3dgX0AAcqcp.jpg
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