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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't give a tinker's damn per public affairs.. only sleep-ad-libitum.
mircea_popescu: i agree you're poor as per 3. you like to claim it's as per 1.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think you two are conflating at least three things. there is 1. "not having any ability to direct the course of public affairs, as encoded in "money" in this society" ; 2. "not having 1 and perceiving one should have it" ; 3. perceiving one should not have it.
trinque: I dunno; prices are good information
asciilifeform: mod6: i will add, if you use an alarm clock, and don't have the option of stopping, you're not rich;
mod6: i agree with ascii; if you have to look at the price tags, you're not rich.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is a thing, i saw it alive.
trinque: again, I wouldn't be surprised if it's some garbage that was in wheat production processes at some point ☟︎
trinque: asciilifeform: I don't know the mechanism, but I've seen the bloody shits.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: this, as i understand, is typical. you can give yourself an intolerance for just about anything, by avoiding it
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i developed gluten intolerance (not dissimilar to lactose intolerance as an experience) as an adult. why ? monsanto ? youthful rebellion against grain-growing ancestors ? who knows
asciilifeform: wtf, i'm actually poor
trinque: I half-suspect it's an autoimmune thing caused by not wheat, but something they had in the production thereof
trinque: mircea_popescu: translating lol. I knew an Argentine chick; she did exactly this, and was supposed to be intellectual because of it
trinque: I dunno, but I do know someone who shits blood when she eats bread
mircea_popescu: trinque i'll give you an extra lol. recently the source of the "salt is bad mkay", ie the ustardemia, came out with an admission of the fraudulent nature of that entire swathe of "research". this however has not yet reached the latino "scientists" who mostly exist through translating things and pretending. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i've never seen anything else in my entire adult life. all of the other variants of human organization may as well be ancient rome, for all the personal experience i have of them.
mircea_popescu: that article i did about "cheers", the sitcom is very illustrative. twerp in question imagines "class" as in, that ancient matter of a person's quality in society, is a matter of anointed. she thinks some vagabond is "high class" because she went to some school.
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 02:08:18; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones << this is a very valid point, and the one spot where alf's ideas re meta-lizzards sound most persuasive. i do not believe the market is gerrymandered as it is by accident.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i bet!
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i read pop sci, pop mech, growing up. they fascinated me even in the early 90s. will have to check on 50s back copies
trinque: hell I'd just like to watch it rip loose
trinque: though I have not lived very long
trinque: never have I felt like so many things were on the verge of... well, god knows what... all at once.
mod6: are you still trying to find MSM articles on that? i dug one up from bbc earlier...
mircea_popescu: once people lose the ability to confront кто ты по жизни (and notice i did not say "answer"), a numeric classification system is unavoidable.
mircea_popescu: (the silent H in all this being : no, an argentine can't pretend to me to be X or Y or Z. because i have a schematic understanding of what he MAY be, and that is the absolute and enforced limit of his destiny.)
mircea_popescu: and yes, i understand that the view in the us is that such schemes take away individual agency.
mats: i dunno.
mircea_popescu: i won't ask about "stupid"
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones << this is a very valid point, and the one spot where alf's ideas re meta-lizzards sound most persuasive. i do not believe the market is gerrymandered as it is by accident. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: the office park where i work is ~80% vacant and you could land a boeing on the parking
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: i did, when i did
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: most folks i know who have the option of going on the train, do
asciilifeform: trinque: where i live this is true of bus; but not usually train
mats: 21:57:42 — +funkenstein_ stood shoulder to shoulder in packed train today comfortably reading book << reminds me when i'd catch a nap in the cattle car during movements between barracks and training site, fully burdened by gear and supported on all sides by other dudes
trinque: I loathe public transportation.
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 00:59:53; mod6: i think that's next, bars between seats.
asciilifeform: mats: here i am discussing foods that one buys and then at least heats. not even touching upon the mcdrivethrough sort, which ~is~ an optional thing
asciilifeform: e.g. there is no 'i don't care if the chicken ate gmo corn but please no antibiotic' shop ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: but i think i already told this story, long ago.
asciilifeform: trinque: at any rate, i regard the idea of being hired to do something specific, worse, involving other people's code, to resemble jail
trinque: I can sorta see it; at least one might come home with some cycles left to spend on something interesting
asciilifeform: trinque: presently i am paid to work on one of the least interesting ideas i ever had. and this beats working with the most interesting idea other people ever had, in my demented head.
asciilifeform: trinque: i think i told the story before. i have no desire at all to be 'in job market'
trinque: asciilifeform: I bet Galois in town would hire ya
asciilifeform: trinque: that's sorta where i work, minus the 'loads' part
mircea_popescu: and i was like "go ahead, milk it!"
mircea_popescu: for a while years ago i amused myself by organising reality tours for various people from afar. sort-of like a conference i guess.
trinque: I don't do it often, but I know my way around an udder, lol
asciilifeform: mod6: i either do it or starve.
trinque: I've milked the fuckers myself and this tasted just like that
mircea_popescu: all cheese imported,a nd i have very specific cream and kefir/yogurt requirements.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, who the fuck can eat them. it literally looks like 10x my daily meat intake, and im a consummate carnivore.
mod6: it boggles the mind. i always look at other peoples carts at the grocery store.
mod6: im actually like 293 years old now, i just look like im 35.
mod6: speaking of fat people. when I was at the statefair on monday, there was some time-dialation from the sheer increase to like 29 Solar Masses.
mod6: i think that's next, bars between seats. ☟︎
mod6: if some vagina on the train told me to "watch my man spreding, i'd be like. ``fuck off, dickhead''" it's the only reasonable response you hvae left any more.
mircea_popescu: mod6 fuck you maybe not the proper form, but "i want those season tickets back and after you've dropped them off do not say hi to me anymore."
shinohai: That's what *I* would like to know.
mod6: mircea_popescu can scarcely believe all the ustards have to talk about is whether men sit like this or like that << ikr! i heard some lawyer say to another lawyer on the train, "mind your man spread bro". ☟︎
mod6: i only like camping in the desert or in the west in general. "back east" sucks, too humid.
mats: mebbe i could move back to san jose and hope it survives as meta-cn
mats: i rather like living in the US northeast and would like to put off my migration into cn for as long as possible
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 20:52:46; mats: waco victims were hardly defenseless. i follow what you're saying, particularly re: historical context, but i'm not convinced this is practicable in usa
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1259992 >> i'm not even convinced he even for a second proposes that as factual. reads to me like alf's writing a novel in his spare time is all. ☝︎
asciilifeform: not having command of the language, i also lack a good source for this thing.
mircea_popescu: i am unconvinced by any explanation of decline that reads different from "success brought abundance which made people complacent. the end."
asciilifeform: re: the scholastic dispute of old times, i am reminded of 'the gate is closed' edict of islam
mircea_popescu: how did you pick the 7 i wanna know lol
mircea_popescu: and i don't care how "raceis", "rapey" or whatever else the understanding of women as people is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform see, if i were to say "the appearance of best business practices is proof positive business as a going concern is dead" you'd see what i mean
asciilifeform: from what i recall of the film, the wives were not appealing (imho)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no i meant ag3nt_zer0 s crop. i don't read the other fucktard but i know what he'sa saying anywa
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: ok thx... I was speaking generally to the atmosphere of the degenerate adult-fail of the contemporary populace in failing to take on their roles as mentors and superiors of the children, combined with these wretched inner-city armed guard metal detector ghetto schools...
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: it is sop, and i know a fella personally who went into and then, a few years later, quit teaching school, for reasons not entirely unlike what was described in your link.
asciilifeform: but yes, from what i can tell, it was not a straight clone
assbot: How I Joined Teach for America--and Got Sued for $20 Million by Joshua Kaplowitz, City Journal Winter 2003 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Uo1OBs )
ag3nt_zer0: I do wonder if this type of scene has its foreign parallels or if it is largely a US phenomena: http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_1_how_i_joined.html
shinohai: Now I am forlorn pete_dushenski because on more thought my housecleaner speaks Spanish. xD
mircea_popescu: charles 5th, hre, said I speak Spanish to God, Italian to Women, French to Men, and German to my Horse.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental driver being the stupid woman in question's inferiority complex. she knows she's filth and she knows actual people wouldn't give her idiocy the time of day. which is "resolved" in her mind as "of course what everyone spends ever ymoment doing is thinking about my stupid shit. yes that's right i'm that central"
assbot: Logged on 15-08-2014 04:13:32; mircea_popescu: i only talk spanish to my horse
mircea_popescu: but i'm going with "knew wrong blablabla".
mircea_popescu: "He denied having the drive which means he knew he shouldn't have it here then it was found in his bag so I feel the punishment is suitable."
assbot: I am able to move small objects with my mind. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Uo0TAZ )
mircea_popescu: i just liked the stockings.
shinohai: I hated it.
shinohai: I used to have that exact tile pattern in my bathroom.
shinohai: I will paraphrase on occasion though.
shinohai: When I quote mircea_popescu on twitter, I generally always link here or to trilema.
mircea_popescu: ftr i dun hold the "always language of slaves" thing and omg if you're going to say what i said link to sauce!
shinohai: I had yet to read him opine on Spanish.
mircea_popescu: i have yet to find anything intellectually stimulating in spanish. the thing's incredibly dead, last noteworthy anything happened apparently in the 1800s
shinohai: I have yet to find a decent bitcoin-related blog in Spanish.
pete_dushenski: that's a point, i don't even have 5 years of archives in an obscure latin language for you to toil in until the end of your days
shinohai: I can't just read contravex alone. I read constantly.
mircea_popescu: "Now I happen to have a large enough domain portfolio that I have my own personal rep at Godaddy"
mircea_popescu: i would guess pope's used to it.