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asciilifeform: my arse movements prolly carry info
asciilifeform: yaya.
asciilifeform: i dun see how it worx.
asciilifeform: i get it, mircea_popescu has this 'if we pretend coin movement carries 0 bits of info to the enemy, mebbe it will become true' thing going.
asciilifeform: you can take' it to the bank '.
asciilifeform: this is a usable hypothesis, and the smart money will use it, just as it uses 'if train engineer drinks, he is more likely to cause bloodbath than if does not drink'.
asciilifeform: or, at least, observable.
asciilifeform: there, testable.
asciilifeform: P(coins lost | coins moved) > P(coins lost | coins stayed put).
asciilifeform: burden of proof will be on asciilifeform , not on wotless wonder znort
asciilifeform: i can already guess where this will go.
asciilifeform: and the starlight carries 0 info
asciilifeform: wanna demonstrate why i merely hallucinate that it works?
asciilifeform: it aint voodoo if it works. ☟︎
asciilifeform: but compare this with EV of 'bitcoin invest' on shitfinexes.
asciilifeform: or owner - dead
asciilifeform: and yes, there IS chance that key was lost
asciilifeform: which carries a bit of actionable info re risk assessment.
asciilifeform: vs if it had not moved, i can see that it had not.
asciilifeform: fact is, it moved. MAYBE to other pocket of same guy, maybe not. but MOVED.
asciilifeform: i am under no obligation to close my eyes.
asciilifeform: if i can see it, i can see it.
asciilifeform: *but that bit is there
asciilifeform: like the hundie that turned, 'spontaneously', to 5 20s.
asciilifeform: to say 'aint no such thing as taint' is great that bit is there, like the light from a distant star, it carries info.
asciilifeform: the coin movement is a bit of information.
asciilifeform: re bbet example and the 5 20s.
asciilifeform: what am i missing ?
asciilifeform: or will he.
asciilifeform: and cash being fungible, mircea_popescu won't blink when he notices that his pocket had a hundie five minutes ago but now has 5 20s, right ?
asciilifeform: if catches him.
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu in the right to collect his balls
asciilifeform: if mr thief picks mircea_popescu 's pocket, goes to the races, wins, and put the money back, he is still a pickpocket ☟︎
asciilifeform: just an ~undiscovered~ bezzlemeister.
asciilifeform: and would have still been a crook if he had won his bets and lost 0.
asciilifeform: and obamite.
asciilifeform: and jon corzine was a crook.
asciilifeform: elsewise shitfinex's 'insurance' will have been 'legit' right up to its total disappearance from the record.
asciilifeform: going up the stack, i dun see successful gambler as == to 'was covered'
asciilifeform: for all the substance in the 'social contract' lunacy, it may as well be bill from dead cromagnons etc.
asciilifeform: yes. i think i might still be paying that one.
asciilifeform: or wat.
asciilifeform: if i catch syphilis now, can i charge the penicillin bill to some dead genoan?
asciilifeform: 'cause it isn' there?
asciilifeform: from this example.
asciilifeform: i dun see how they covered the colourful swan of , e.g, syphilis.
asciilifeform: and who paid - whom
asciilifeform: and if so, at what.
asciilifeform: did they assess risk of discovering syphilis??
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1520274 << well, we have a 'these ships sail for west indies next morning and most will come back never, or in a decade, and maybe full of gold and slaves, or maybe plague' market. ☝︎
asciilifeform: pete is, as i understand, boiling the rope, as we speak.
asciilifeform: you still gotta hang thieves.
asciilifeform: lol aha, 'if i dun steal that donkey, another will'
asciilifeform: the 'winners' - we generally never hear about.
asciilifeform: and yes, the temptation to 'invest' other people's coin , without their knowledge, has been overwhelming, for ~every megascammer to date.
asciilifeform: well i dun wear a pope hat.
asciilifeform: presently.
asciilifeform: what time value. after private mpoe, the ~only + or even breakeven ev btc use is 'hodl'.
asciilifeform: nevertheless i am free to consider a hypothesis that could be ruled out if he had not moved it.
asciilifeform: and no 'smart contract' or whatever, just radio static. it is ~possible~ that znort moved the coin because, solely because, he is allergic to odd-numbered addrs. or sumthing.
asciilifeform: as pete did.
asciilifeform: and i will share. publicly.
asciilifeform: but if i pick up a stray burst of radio static from bbet that suggests he lotteries, this will be part of my risk assessment.
asciilifeform: no word re technologizability.
asciilifeform: dunno, i see 0 difference b/w a bbet that shitfinexes customer coin and that derp who put his customers' into canadian lottery.
asciilifeform: well bbet is not run by lord, or even - to my satisfaction - actual wot persona.
asciilifeform: where nobody knows how to bill 'died for the glory of the motherland'.
asciilifeform: or was it the 'pay for sunlight' thing.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1520211 << did mircea_popescu ever say why he did not charge the full cost of bitbetronics? it was loss leader? or wat. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu gonna love the veery speshul seeeekrit rogervergerian offer!!
asciilifeform: but i do expect that if a phriend of mircea_popescu borrows his moneyz, and goes to gamble with it, and loses all, he will be made to pay with balls
asciilifeform: i'ma, lets say, low expectations fella.
asciilifeform: hence - did not use after heathens got to it.
asciilifeform: i dun expect it to work. i expected it to walk with the coinz.
asciilifeform: so jon corzine was an honest man per mircea_popescu's lights?
asciilifeform: sum.
asciilifeform: tru!
asciilifeform: what do you call it, mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: coin parked at bbet and promised to come out minus fee.
asciilifeform: or, wat, only if you lose???
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: whether 'can trace' or cannot, gambling with escrows == scamming
asciilifeform: https://blockchain.info/address/128VPofnGL1BCZdjgbyf8gRpuAALD3SLJj
asciilifeform: oh hey, https://bitbet.us/bet/1256/donald-trump-will-win-the-2016-united-states/#b25
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo or anyone with time/energy: see if any live bbet bets have empty in addrs.
asciilifeform: i haven't the intel. hence q.
asciilifeform: well i have nfi, perhaps missionary dude also was ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu knows, as fact?
asciilifeform: strausskahn was a people?
asciilifeform: then to gulag.
asciilifeform: go a preachin'
asciilifeform: typically christbesotted types
asciilifeform: and gets stuck
asciilifeform: the occasional imbecile does
asciilifeform: nfi.
asciilifeform: sisters, daughters, pets,
asciilifeform: perhaps they had his mother as hostage or wat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nfi why strausskahn went
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: german dude. hanged at nuremberg.
asciilifeform: der sturmer.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: ever see j. streicher's cartoons?