mircea_popescu: now, which was prevalent in antiquity and decayed over time, and which grew over time and was prevalent by the late republic ?

mircea_popescu: there were some special rituals for this.

mircea_popescu: out of the hand signified that the woman remained (no dude, no fucking free agent women, wtf is this) the property of her father.

mircea_popescu: marrying into the hand of the husband signified that the woman became his property, like any other slave (with some exceptions, such as can't be given in lieu of the damage like common slave), and was achieved through continuous cohabitation (one year with no break longer than two days)

mircea_popescu: in the hand, and out of the hand.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the greek world was mostly "land, cowoman separate". the early roman world similarily, but consider : the roman law knew two (principal, we'll omit the half dozen or so special, patrician only, priesthood styles) kinds of marriage :

mircea_popescu: because that's the fundamental difference across the northern ocean -- left, landwoman, right, cowoman.

mircea_popescu: but does land come with women ? is this a construct, landwomen, upon which to find a place for yourself ? or does land come without anything or anymore, and is woman another sort of cow for you to work upon it ?

mircea_popescu: the ~other~ available heuristic, likely weaker but reaching further into the past, is to observe that the moor ~strangles~ desdemona, doesn't raise her princess little venetian-aspirant daugthers.

mircea_popescu: the sad counter to thyis is to observe that the actual russians -- too dumb to even go.

mircea_popescu: i will readily grant that the "russians" ~only stayed because actually, they were jews.

mircea_popescu: consider one point -- russians, romanians, germans all went "la america" in the 1800s. the russians and germans -- stayed. the romanians -- returned.

mircea_popescu: cuckoldry in the americas has not perceptibly changed, i suspect it's driven by the very land. same exact item as before euros showed up, really.

mircea_popescu: in point of fact -- they were.

mircea_popescu: so, yes. i can very much picture rockefeller kids named whateverjin, but in the sense meaningful cca 1817 rather than in the 2017 sense.

mircea_popescu: so now to answer the orig. question : this miner from the french german lands was no particular religious fellow. his wife however -- was.

mircea_popescu: notice that the hitler-stalin pact actually made a lot more sense historically than the two nuts realised.

mircea_popescu: j p rockefeller, rhineland miner, the german rather than the russian parentage of "american"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the TRULY AMUSING part being that those, also russian immigrants!

mircea_popescu: you recall brin the elder ?

mircea_popescu: (latter brin's children are called "wojin", if you can imagine that.)

mircea_popescu: well, either that or married what's her name and had portmanteau kiddos with her.

mircea_popescu: dude... what is this, jr high ?

mircea_popescu: "oh, what'll the teacher do, if he flunks all of us he can't be a teacher anymore, he needs us"

mircea_popescu: you know what a lazy eye is ? same exact fucking principle -- moves slower than its brother, =lazy.

mircea_popescu: the slowest horse in a pack of horses is the laziest horse in the pack of horses.

mircea_popescu: that your arm "dun work" especially in the "as well as neighbour's" flavour <

mircea_popescu: men too lazy to feed self are still complete, and still SHOULD feed self.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what mom does with them is of no interest./

mircea_popescu: it works if you work it, now gert to work.

mircea_popescu: physiology is no criteria upon anatomy. that your arm "dun work" especially in the "as well as neighbour's" flavour is very strictly no proof of "broken arm".

mircea_popescu: this is tulpa talk, no more,.

mircea_popescu: not true.

mircea_popescu: that's not how that works.

mircea_popescu: much like the aztecs were a complete country when the spanish state showed up.

mircea_popescu: that's too meta for this conversation.

mircea_popescu: not like all the men were away threshing in lusitania.

mircea_popescu: even milling will wear down the knives a little.

mircea_popescu: the заградотряд process doth not promise 0 losses among the guards ; merely ~manageable~ (as opposed to womanageable) losses.

mircea_popescu: ie, no dumb cunt had the opportunity to tell rando mirvnik that "you baby are precious and bla bla bla".

mircea_popescu: need a certain sort of rural for that to work, for the exact reason that "used to be easier when all it took was water which could be applied at birth."

mircea_popescu: similarily if you went with machine guns into campus of your choice, the output will be pile of bodies, not red army. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: they -- more advanced on path to ustardianism than cossacks.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have no doubt that red army is exactly what happened to the jews in warsaw.

mircea_popescu: but meanwhile the secretions got thicker and stickier.

mircea_popescu: used to be easier when all it took was water which could be applied at birth.

mircea_popescu: practically speaking, washing the cunt off your eyes today means "getting rid of precious cuntled syndrome at some point before senescence"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the products of modern woman can not plug anything, because "what if there's a better use of their priceless person later on"

mircea_popescu: i've no doubt soon the day the ocean ate their sub "manned by very competent idiots in our own estimation" will get similar treatment, "day of victory over the marine element"

mircea_popescu: eg, argentina celebrates the day of its defeat in the faulklands as "victory over whatever" day.

mircea_popescu: well yes, but in the meanwhile some "uses" are less evidently wasteful than others.

mircea_popescu: they were blinded at birth by their despicable mothers.

mircea_popescu: "different skillsets" are needed for either approach, which is a polite way of saying that your doods have no ballsacs.

mircea_popescu: yes well you'll have to put in more than hashers.

mircea_popescu: well... indeed. dun have to.

mircea_popescu: funny bit being that i recall some "not serious" guy explaining this is exactly how empire will decay. empire was liek "oh, our conversation dun need to include that!"

mircea_popescu: "install this new kernel to make your computer slower"

mircea_popescu: but the similarities with http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-18#1278730 ftr ☝︎