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ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i don't think it is 'emo' to question my priorities when, after giving away my work to apparent applause for
a year, i mention starving and audience suggests 'web dev'
ascii_field: see also my observation about being dumber than
a chicken.
mircea_popescu: same thing happens to me, i get various bits i end up keeping for
a long time.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't, personally, give
a rats ass either way. if yes, sure. if not, whatever, i have no problems riding
a horse.
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 20:08:35; ascii_field: microshit's very existence has deformed thought processes of
a great many people.
ascii_field: (show me where we can do
a 486 or
a dram of the time, for something like what the shared die folks charge.)
mircea_popescu: you know for
a fact, incontrovertible and above your ability to contest, that you can do 100 cpus, and it doesn'rt even cost that much.
mircea_popescu:
a matter that the top male of 1015 (ie, STRONG) fucked hotties and had good children. whereas the top male of 2015 (ie, SMART) fucks horsefaces and is happy for it.
ascii_field: hey
a sack of potatoes with
a hole augered in is prolly somebody's 1st luv
mircea_popescu: well i can't find it. anyway, fucktarded outdoor thing in ba, "siempre se vuelve al primer amor" trying to sell italian classes. depicts an ugly chick in flats holding
a huge red heart.
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 20:08:16; ascii_field: 'when mass markets develop, pluralism suffers the most -- there is no longer
a concept of healthy participants: people become concerned with the individual "winner", and instead of people being good at whatever they are doing and proud of that, they will want to flock around the winner to share some of the glory.'
ascii_field: iirc recently somebody opened
a btc mine under f.
BingoBoingo: So pete still working on
a PR setup? How does their compensation work? One share per tard tear?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: stody of her kids to their dad because she had the kids on her case but because she was filmed letting her friend use the card they said she was neglecting to 'use state resources alloted for her kids' on her kids, so they opened
a case against her and the judge let the kids say who they wanted to be with and it was dad. "
BingoBoingo: Foodstamp culture: "I saw an episode of Bridezillas that she wanted to use EBT for her wedding cake. Except it was her friends card and it was not
a store she was getting it from it was
a lady baking out of her house and the baker lady was going to buy the stuff for the cake and like $700 in groceries as her 'payment'. They all got fines, the baker got shut down and the friend lost her ability to receive stamps and I think lost cu
mircea_popescu: iirc he also judges new stripper in
a six county area.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: supposing for
a moment that the notion was
a serious one, who should we be hiring ?
gribble: artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 28 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, 47 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it
a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
mircea_popescu: other than that there's other things (ie,
a bitcoin game etc etc) but i got those.
mircea_popescu: Thing 7. We're trying to create
a pr core, which is roughly in the spot Thing 4 was
a year ago, ie, when artifex got somehow married to it.
mircea_popescu: Thing 6. We're trying to create
a sane computer (other than pogo). Part of this consideration is some in-principle fundamental research work into ternary to be maybe attached to Thing 3.
mircea_popescu: Thing 5. We're trying to create
a sane os. This led to gentoo being cut open, libc being cut open, gcc being cut open, and we're still barfing at the results. I don't even want to think about it.
mircea_popescu: Thing 4. We're trying to create
a proper (=crypto) communication system ; as part of this gpg was cut up and we're still barfing at the results. this is
a huge task and if thee end product is reasonably well understood, the design's still widely open.
mircea_popescu: Thing 3. We're trying to re-create
a software management system that's based on sanity (=crypto). this mostly exists gratia alf & mod6 efforts, and it's called v.
mircea_popescu: Thing 1. We're trying to reduce bitcoind to
a form where it's actually worth cutting trees to print it ;
☟︎ mircea_popescu: actually, this is probably long overdue and
a major public service. so i ordered teh gals bring cognac and i shall proceed
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 19:21:12; phf: ascii_field: that's the problem with
a lot of lisp conversations here, your interlocutors have some vague idea about how things are done right now and in unix world. even unixisms are used not in their "pure form", but in their final gnu/linux state. there's complete lack of semantic match between that and historical lisp. ultimately debates are reduced to "macros are bad because cpp is bad"
ascii_field: but it never made any sense how one could evict
a 'tenant' on one of these.
ascii_field: but to state 'various xxxxx is now available for
a fee, unless at some point i get rich enough to afford the armour without having to pull own plow.'
mircea_popescu: do what you can, when you can, you got
a lifetime ahead o you.
phf: ascii_field: you're producing the most output by
a margin of anyone here
mircea_popescu: after all, soviet armies even are
a thing because the reason prefers to sleep, or how was that quote.
ascii_field: anyway i know very well that mircea_popescu runs
a roman army, where you gotta bringe the horse, and the armour, and not
a soviet army.
mircea_popescu: if i cared what kenyans value anything i might ask them. as it is, they don't even get
a voice in blockchain size.
ascii_field: e.g., do i contribute something in particular, or is it fungible like the 'good looks of
a 20yo cunt'
mircea_popescu: your notion that "oh, what is my participation in B's cool worth" is akin to the dumb polack chick in
A going "what are my good looks worth, i can't make hollywood rent control"
mircea_popescu: there is today
a group of people that do so and so with encryption and bitcoins and etc. their history will be the controlling factor for an entire generation [of mostly chinese and russian speakers], who'll go about calling themselves the MP of cmpany X, because ceo is uncool now. this is part B of comparison.
mircea_popescu: there was once
a group of 20something chicks that lived in so and so apartments and did so and so deeds and things. their history became the controlling factor for an entire generation of english speakers, who went and got rachedo's and so on and so forth. part
A of comparison.
mircea_popescu: you're approximately in the position of
a 20something woman who wants to be part of the cast of friends but doesn't have the rent.
phf: nobody's going to pay for v, but i thought that v is
a dna level building block in
a construction process of something that's beyond "money-cool", or bezzle cool as that's really what you're talking about ("rent is due")
phf: i don't know what that means, money's not cool, it's barelly adequate at purchasing cool (
a highly debatable point)
trinque: not that there's immediate pay; it's
a long position
trinque: do you benefit from
a world where bitcoin functions or don't you?
ben_vulpes: what is the value of
a put on facebook expiring 5 years from now?
ascii_field: which the other implementations are using as
a crib sheet
trinque: ascii_field: it's simply this, that other than via magical thinking and zealotry, your thing will only happen when it costs less than someone is willing to pay to solve
a problem he has
trinque: sure, that market distortions happen doesn't mean they don't happen in
a useful direction. it only means that other things will suffer greatly, that things are imbalanced.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: what's more valuable:
a honed and tidied 'v' implementation or several different implementations from wotmembers?
trinque: there was the thread about mathematics in the USSR which rings
a bell here
ascii_field: at
a certain stage of tech development, widespread scurvy is more or less certain
trinque: could very well be that the mechanism by which
a central govt steals from
a large population via fiat monetary systems got us the CPUs we use today far earlier than they'd have been had without the theft
☟︎ ascii_field: and at any rate, i'm not
a 'high-performance' anything.
ben_vulpes: "ah fuckit, get out of my way, i'll do it in
a tenth the time and it'll be twice as good."
ben_vulpes: high performance individuals can hobble
a team like this.
trinque: there are plenty more knowledgable on this than myself, but this is why I ask periodically about smaller components of the thing, if such
a thing exists at all
phf: luckily for you today only you can get
a new and improved PATCH from me that will at least let you create context, since i only finished it like last night, i don't yet know if it will actually encrypt, but it might
ascii_field distinctly recalls warning people about this
a while back
ascii_field has
a very distinct feeling, prompted by last night's thread, that he is failing
a kind of economic iq test
trinque: ascii_field: this is why I spoke of military hardware; it's only valuable if it's
a) used and b) the user wins something of value
jurov:
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 "if you are any kind of open-source leader or senior figure who is male, do not be alone with any female, ever, at
a technical conference."
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: the thing i'm trying to figure out is whether i'm smarter than
a chicken.
ascii_field: i have
a puzzle for ben_vulpes, who is awake, and mircea_popescu, who might soon awaken, and the rest:
ben_vulpes: phf: where's
a sane place from which to procure gpg-error? i've found some text files scattered about the web but nothing in the gpgme lang/cl dir
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 15:31:19; asciilifeform: this keeps in perfect fitting with the 'computing industry'-as-
a-protection racket business model of the last 20+ yrs, where it 'solves' exclusively those problems which it, itself, creates.
ascii_field: microshit's very existence has deformed thought processes of
a great many people.
☟︎ ascii_field: 'when mass markets develop, pluralism suffers the most -- there is no longer
a concept of healthy participants: people become concerned with the individual "winner", and instead of people being good at whatever they are doing and proud of that, they will want to flock around the winner to share some of the glory.'
☟︎ trinque: if I have 10 nukes and you have 100 artillery in
a fortress, and I nuke the fortress, does
a nuke silo spring up in its midst?
PeterL: lacks
a certain "economy of scale"
ascii_field: i do not know how to make
a cpu for 100 people.
ascii_field: it'd have to be
a computer for 100 people.
PeterL: so the only way to get
a better operating system is to start with purpose built hardware?
ascii_field: i am deliberately not even mentioning gpu, because it is possible to have
a useful computer with no vga board (e.g., you can speak x11 over tcp)
ascii_field: AND this is
a device for which we HAVE the specs !
ascii_field: i picked this example out of
a tall hat with many others, to demonstrate the impedance mismatch between the lisp way of doing things and pc iron
ascii_field: suddenly you need
a massive 'bureaucracy' to convert between the contiguous blobs your devices eat and shit, and your notion.
ascii_field: where each character is stored in half of
a word, with the other half being
a pointer to the next char ?