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rg: but im glad i didn't have to do it
rg: yeah good thing you didn't
rg: then he didn't pay his bill on time
Diablo-D3: [06:58:39] <nenolod> shut up your company wasn't incorporated in maine
nenolod: i guess i won't have to worry about running kash(1) on this machine
nenolod: i probably shouldn't talk shit about enzu until this rsync finishes
nenolod: and steve was shouting in my ear saying "don't do that!"
nenolod: and that wasn't my fault, actually
nenolod: i didn't do any permanent damage to it
rg: even if he didn't do it
nenolod: rg: i don't work at enzu anymore
nenolod: shut up your company wasn't incorporated in maine
mircea_popescu: if you put in 100 btc of your own money that won't hurt anything.
mircea_popescu: didn't you say you bought half ?
rg: he was complaining that i didn't get charged for these two disks
rg: he didn't want to talk about it
copumpkin: well, I don't think most futures traders really want delivery
knotwork: they just don't visit those rooms of their hoard unless they hear the things have started to be valuable again
knotwork: but look at supposedly "dead" altcoins, you don't see everyone running around trying to sell what they have hoarded of them
Bugpowder: nice... the MPCD trading bot that has been putting out unfavorable bid ask spreads for people to pick up didn't realize dividends haven't been paid yet
da2ce773: mircea_popescu: it isn't so bad if you don't bind it to your web-browsers.
knotwork: that wasn't userbase that was "broker material" population
mircea_popescu: so why can't i just pop an openssl up and talk to your server ?
da2ce773: :S well java dosn't suck if you do it right... look at multibit
mircea_popescu: knotwork i don't want to build the server tho, just a client
da2ce773: hmm... it isn't a just a clean 'deploy and everything will work forever stage'.. there will be bugs, and it will need maintance/FellowTraveler/I will have to develop patches for your issues.
Obsi: why isn't that all automated?
Obsi: is there a reason OT couldn't be made decentralized and fully P2P? Maybe using the blockchain to agree on things
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder doesn't really look like he'll bail.
Bugpowder: I don't think GLBSE is going to survive
mircea_popescu: Obsi ty, but it doesn't seem like anyone has a choice. glbse is going away. now's everyone's change to learn gpg.
mircea_popescu: dub i can't give you one, EskimoBob is already getting all of it.
OneEyed: And when the DA will get back to me, I'll just drop the charges and won't confirm them since the issue is now moot
OneEyed: So I didn't pursue the charges
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: I pressed charges when he didn't answer by PM nor reimburse me (it's free to start criminal charges here, no need for a lawyer)
Bugpowder: seals doesn't count
Bugpowder: would have made profit if he didn't get margined
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: a defaulting loan doesn't affect the existing number of shares of GLBSE assets, only the net value of the fund
OneEyed: What's good here is that even the recent loan defaults don't affect the dividends
OneEyed: I don't understand buyers sometimes, two hours before he/she would have got the dividends as well
Ignatius-otc: I recall seeing many of his posts throughout btctalk. Even still it doesn't come across to me as an honest business proposal. Large startup costs with little info. Of course, it's only a matter of time before growing and distribution are legalized
Ignatius-otc: well, interesting read. I won't be investing anytime soon with that individual.
OneEyed: I don't know what the new law (I don't even know if it's a law in fact) covers
OneEyed: PsychoticBoy: yeah, you can't sell weed to foreigners any more, could you sell parts of weed production?
mircea_popescu: i can't travel on a week's notice ffs
mircea_popescu: i don't even smoke
pigeons: well i don't have any, i bought some a few days ago for the dividends but had to sell them because they are going for twice what i paid for them
mircea_popescu: o glbse still doesn't announce divs huh
mircea_popescu: ouch you got 100 btc in fpgamining, isn't that awol ?
OneEyed: PsychoticBoy: didn't you want to sell 100k shares?
OneEyed: I'm not sure they is much potential for growth though. Liquidity on GLBSE is so low, that you wouldn't know what to do with 10,000 BTC if you could sell all the shares
OneEyed: PsychoticBoy: I don't know if you've seen it, but EskimoBob was enquiring about any software used to manage FDBF
mircea_popescu: i didn't even know it existed.
Bastone: You don't know anyone it seems. You're too important to bother yourself with regular Bitcoiners.
OneEyed: Oh, MPOE-PR is mircea_popescu girlfriend? I haven't followed the sitcom apparently, I thought it was Mircea himself.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: not much, I don't like the "real" finance world much :)
mircea_popescu: i keep waiting to see a trade stream from them, hasn't happened yet.
OneEyed: PsychoticBoy: I was very happy with my 300 shares of FDBF, but I am selling (those at 0.149253 are mine, 39 remaining) because I really want out of GLBSE, I don't trust the site with my BTC anymore after the recent Goat assets drama
mircea_popescu: don't blow it.
OneEyed: Bastone: you don't even know how to troll obviously
Bastone: You don't like trolls?
Bastone: No, I didn't.
Bastone: You don't like trolls mircea_popescu?
Bastone: That doesn't list signup revenue.
Bastone: mircea_popescu: No I didn't know. Your website is unusable for any normal person.
Bastone: Oh, so you don't sell the child porn, you just host it?
mircea_popescu: FabianB i can't say it rings a bell, what is it ?
mircea_popescu: course i don't ubnderstand how/why would nyan.a be under 1 if b is worth over 0
mircea_popescu: course by then there won't be much left standing to put money in i fear.
Bugpowder: Then you don't have to worry about all this swapping shit
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 re the mismanagement if you didn't buy way over nav then it can't really be said you're a bad manager for buying back
Bugpowder: I wish I hadn't sold my NYAN.A for .9
mircea_popescu: i don't want a little girl diablo. i want grown girls, such as
copumpkin: jcpham: I do too, but I don't see why it is
mircea_popescu: why do peopkle feel compelled to insult what they don't understand ?
Bugpowder: wouldn't want to be locked out of trading for the whole work day.
OneEyed: EskimoBob: I don't understand all this problem around porn. Is porn illegal where you live, or do you have any evidence that the porn hosted there is illegal?
OneEyed: Oops, I mean mircea_popescu's implementation, not himself, I don't know him :)
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: no, I have just read the FAQ, 20 BTC would eat much more than what I would gain, since I don't have much to trade (I just bought a couple hundreds BTC to play with)
mircea_popescu: the point isn't to make a system that makes human retardedness impossible, that's too hard a problem.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: yeah, that's why you can't trust the date, I'm with you on this one, it makes no sense
jurov: isn't that done already? i tried that sending same encrypted STAT twice, even that was rejected
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: you don't have to! The signature date just ensures that signed messages won't be the same, by construction
mircea_popescu: OneEyed i don't trust the signature date thing
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: no, you don't need to add anything
mircea_popescu: i could mandate it, but i don't see the benefit sufficient.
mircea_popescu: except people don't really bother.
OneEyed: And pretend he reused the same Cs, when he didn't
mircea_popescu: i identify it. i won't go into details of how.
mircea_popescu: except attacker can't get Cs.
mircea_popescu: OneEyed i know, and that won't work.
jurov: mircea, there aren't so many holes in coinbr, mostly UI glitches... only the dividends caught me with pants down
OneEyed: You mean I can't sign a message containing "BUY|foobar|10|1", submit it, then submit it again a day later?
mircea_popescu: OneEyed requests can't be submitted again atm
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: as far as security is concerned, I haven't seen anything against replay attack. Maybe the attacker should have the possibility to add a "serial" or "uid" extra field, to ensure a signed message cannot be submitted again without being regenerated (it would require a new UID).
OneEyed: My point was that key update can be hijacked, that wouldn't do any harm except mark a compromised key as compromised
mircea_popescu: no, i understand, i don't mind discussing it.
mircea_popescu: and the rest isn't either very large or doing too good.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: out of curiosity, why don't you offer the possibility to update a key (expiration date, revocation)? It could be transferred the same way orders are, and that would make the system only more secure, wouldn't it?
mircea_popescu: poor people bring drama not liquidity. i don't need drama.