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OneEyed: usagi: aren't you in complete control of CPA/BMF/NYAN.* already?
OneEyed: usagi: you wouldn't have known by doing your liquidity test at the beginning
OneEyed: BTC-Mining: why don't you directly post MIN/MAX/DURATION/INTERESTS?
BTC-Mining: Doesn't mean I can't use more funds.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining weren't you complaining you're cash heavy a second ago ?
BTC-Mining: If you can't trade, loan the funds to me. There's my personal portfolio in front of loaned money to absorb losses.
mircea_popescu: OneEyed people need to learn somehow that calling yourself "investor" doesn't make you one
mircea_popescu: and ofcourse the entity is secret, so the claim can't be verified.
OneEyed: "Whatever the entity is. You cannot check that didn't just steal your BTC. You lose." <-- should have been added too
mircea_popescu: contracts get more and more complex, people don't like to read
BTC-Mining: OBSI, OBSI, why don't you pay dividends!
mircea_popescu: i don't see an announcement, just random bs from usagi & retard gang.
OneEyed: Obviously that didn't cause you to mass buy OBSI.HRPT, so news are probably not good :)
OneEyed: He can be, if you have 1 share to sell. Just don't put a bid before a certain date, and let people place asks, that would be an auction
mircea_popescu: mpex isn't an auction platform
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: I don't know, it was a question on my side :)
mircea_popescu: wasn't statistical expectation 4k ?
Eisenhower34: thats not the problem. the problem are those comments : "Government ID please. ""We wouldn't want this to be another scam right?""Are you willing to provide a legal adress under which someone could be held accountable in case of fraud?" "I'll never conduct business with a "company" who refuses to even tell me the address where they are based."
mircea_popescu: i don't even know who you are.
mircea_popescu: Eisenhower34 coding isn;'t the biggest deal. also, who and why is calling you a scammer ?
OneEyed: usagi: more importantly, he didn't explain those (potentially) bad decisions. He pretty much destroyed part of the trust people need to have in him.
OneEyed: I thought YARR couldn't be traded anymore. I must have confused that with something else.
imsaguy2: you don't have that sort of priority
imsaguy2: usagi, I can't just go and give you hardware and screw everyone else
mircea_popescu: i mean it can't be a ponzi on the strength of lack of volume alone.
imsaguy2: technically, the bbs isn't his site
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: did you do anything to him? I don't understand why he goes after MPEX every time he can. Do you owe him money or what?
OneEyed: Eisenhower34: I would too, but for some reason I don't understand BFL said it wouldn't
OneEyed: I can't make my mind on whether this is a scam or not, or more exactly on whether they do have a product ready or not (even if they intend to have one eventually)
BTC-Mining: Don't think anyone has, OneEyed
mircea_popescu: after all, the system doesn't care where you get your hashing, it's all fungible.
pigeons: wow kakobrekla i didn't know you swere such a scammer ;)
OneEyed: You still don't answer: wouldn't it have been best for investors to have kept their BTC out of BMF into a cold wallet? They could resold them for a better profit than if they went in and out of BMF, isn't it?
Bugpowder: BTC-Mining, Sorry I'm sticking to MPEX securities, I don't think GLBSE will be around by Nov 1st.
OneEyed: I'm not saying it's your fault. I'm saying that I don't understand how it can be considered to have gained value.
OneEyed: usagi: none, I haven't invested with you, nor accused you of anything, you must be confused. I only asked questions when I didn't understand your answer to posted facts. Check your logs :)
OneEyed: usagi: I don't bother hashking? I even filed *criminal charges* against him to get my money back!
fimp: where does one create a new contract on GLBSE? I don't see that option anywhere
OneEyed: I'd tend to agree with EskimoBob here. I'm fan of "don't attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity", but in the bitcointalk world it looks like malice is often present
OneEyed: Nah, I just went out of GLBSE, I went back in to get some very cheap ones, I won't buy at more than .03, I'm sure someone will sell :)
OneEyed: If Kluge can reimburse (and it looks like it will), you'll get much more than that by holding them if you can't get a good price anyway!
Bugpowder: couldn't exit the whole position cause volume is too low
mircea_popescu: he doesn't know what a cdo is.
mircea_popescu: someone please explain that ito calculus wielding idiot that you don't unwind a cdo bottom up
mircea_popescu: im sure she can cook, if you can't cook you can't be a wife
mircea_popescu: ya, why isn't he selling HIS WIFE he;s not even married to in order to settle some internet monopoly money debt
mircea_popescu: not personal, but : if you don't trust anyone in the mkt you can't list.
mircea_popescu: he doesn't trust you either
mircea_popescu: just look at kludge. his pretense to be what he ain't fucked up his "non legal" marriage.
mircea_popescu: yes, admitting he can't rather than just... is an asshat
mircea_popescu: o, he doesn't use one address either huh
mircea_popescu: srsly, don't tell me nefario spent goat's btc
mircea_popescu: wait a second. wasn't someone saying they lent nefario 400 quid after the Great Conference Nobody Went To ?
mircea_popescu: he doesn't give a shit about privacy
BTC-Mining: I'm pretty sure it was expected by now. Didn't you short some OBSI?
mircea_popescu: Has anybody else noticed the contracts os assets on MPEx are much better than the ones on GLBSE? I don't want to get into a debate about exchanges, but having a decent and detailed contract is a good sign for an asset.
Bugpowder: don't people already know htat
Bugpowder: I have shares. Can't sell a single share of any asset
BTC-Mining: and it doesn't seem to work that way.
BTC-Mining: Isn't it you who claims all stock markets are a zero/negative sum game?
BTC-Mining: [17:29] <usagi> lolz dub, people who don't understand accrual or cost basis accounting should be banned from the forums
Obsi: it was closed out and delisted, can't be traded from what I know
Bugpowder: what is the point of the SEC if you aren't going to lock the real fuckers up
agath: it isn't... read better
Bugpowder: wait, isn't pyramining a ponzi scheme though?
rdponticelli: If you would have not inested, it won't have apreciated
agath: having a very short period of quite high income doesn't mean it's a win
BTC-Mining: Bugpowder, don't forget
agath: and maybe gigamining, which I don't know very very well..
knotwork_: its hard to believe they are serious if they don't even merged mine as they thus deliberately leave money on the table
Bugpowder: with reward halving coming and difficulty ramping, people are realizing that there won't be that much in dividends coming out in a few months
rdponticelli: If nobody is mining, and we aren't financing mining, there's no bitcoin
copumpkin: that doesn't mean people don't take them seriously though
copumpkin: they just aren't a particularly good investment
Bugpowder: looks cool though! I don't have the desire to get my dick chopped off trading forex again though.
PsychoticBoy: -t
Luceo: 5.7% is also pretty much exactly the movement in BTC isn't it?
BTC-Mining: If it wasn't for the dividends
BTC-Mining: Hey, can't only blame the mining sector losing value. You got to trade and cut losses.
BTC-Mining: BTC-BOND isn't looking healthy?
Bugpowder: But I don't think the Fed is going to come in and exchange Treasuries for for NYAN.B shares any time soon.
Bugpowder: In fairness, BAC, JPM, WFC weren't marking their MBS to market either.
grubles: ive signed the mpex key, and yet i still get "Couldn't decode the reply from MPEx...blah" errors
mircea_popescu: smickles not really, i don't youtube so much
rg: t
smickles: jeez, i can't log into glbse
smickles: and MPOE.ETF isn't actually a passthru, but there isn't a S.MPOE passthru on GLBSE
nenolod: i wouldn't do that.
nenolod: rg: i don't really want to get into hosting
mircea_popescu: rg well, you moved dc i didn't. 1-0 muahaha
nenolod: i don't want to do hosting
OneEyed: usagi: I don't troll, I just try to understand what I read. If you call that trolling, then call it trolling, but I'm hardly trying to escalate the debate into some heated argument or make anyone lose time
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: don't underestimate the problem: they are fighting over a whole 4 BTC!
mircea_popescu: OneEyed yes but i bet you most bets don't get 2btc of losing bets.
mircea_popescu: didn't tux make a php dns server ?
rg: since he defaulted and didn't pay his bill
mircea_popescu: OneEyed you can't get more than the total agree can you
OneEyed: Shit, I won't win much :)
mircea_popescu: OneEyed well it didn't get hacked
nenolod: and was like "omg i didn't make any moniez"