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a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 18:46 asciilifeform: nope, definitely ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: trinque & mircea_popescu specifically introduces manifests to prevent this scenario.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu specifically barfed , tho, and nobody any moar does this. so for nao yer stuck with cut&pasteism, as i understand.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: my orig v algo supported unlimited 'genesis'-en
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you carry with your proggy, the specific one you built on
ave1: as for an alternative branch; http://ave1.org/code/eucrypt/eucrypt_crc32_divtronic.vpatch.ave1.sig and http://ave1.org/code/eucrypt/eucrypt_crc32_divtronic.vpatch.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc mircea_popescu in particular specifically hates libs-as-separate-trees, insists that proggy oughta include errything it eats. ( i dun recall whether he answered why it should not also then include the os and compiler also in same genesis, but i'ma leave thread alone for nao) ☟︎
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu prefers this style to the other
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the way i understand 'v branching as civilized replacement for #ifdefism', the branches unavoidably gotta get reground whenever the whole tree is considered stable (i.e. no further changes likely to trunk)
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 18:14 diana_coman: and it fits perfectly the original idea of alternative, proper
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 15:55 diana_coman: as it is, it will be a .vpatch after the lookup implementation - so linear sequence rather than alternative; you might want to branch the tree instead from *before* the lookup implementation so that your div version is effectively alternative branch
ave1: diana_coman, asciilifeform, well I uploaded both with the same scp line, but did not check. So now again new version (thanks for the typo fixes diana_coman!), I just downloaded both again and verified.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect that he forgot to refresh the seal , and that one's from the old ver
asciilifeform: ohai diana_coman
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 04:29 Mocky: oh shit, mircea_popescu unrated me!
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862212 << I don't see how I could have shaved off just that rating while fixing the diana_away thing, but if it turns out I did, my apologies ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 07:53 diana_coman: in fact the 3rd option that is the one actually to use is having different sizes on the two processes (i.e. different constant simply)
ave1: diana_coman, please try again...
ave1: diana_coman, place was right, my publish pipeline failed (somehow the final copy operations did not work)
diana_coman: ave1, it seems I still get the old .vpatch? I took it with curl from http://ave1.org/code/eucrypt/eucrypt_crc32_div.vpatch ; is this the right place?
ave1: diana_coman, I've updated the crc32 code! (still at the place)
bvt: vtools_tempfile_standalone.vpatch http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/A0SPK/?raw=true vtools_tempfile_standalone.vpatch.bvt.sig http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/IVy7W/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 01:09 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862164 << yes ; cuz all 1470s go to one process and all 1472s go to a different one. eventually as a scalability thing could even go to diff box altogether. there's not so muchrelation between the two types.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 01:10 mircea_popescu: diana_coman 14721 or 14702 BITS long, not octets yes ?
asciilifeform: i for instance am sitting here and tryin', not always successfully, to cure folx of delusions that linux instilled in'em, e.g. 'tcp gives cheap an' reliable pipes' ( cured mircea_popescu after , what, 3y ) and nao 'udp packets can be anyffing, not merely 1472' (not cured yet..)
asciilifeform: diana_coman has a 'generic' ver, a kind of ada cheat i suggested ; but it has minus of preventing restriction encapsulation, as well as inevitably moar complex receiver (mine handles one size and one size only)
asciilifeform: and in particular, http://btcbase.org/patches/udp_genesis#L440
asciilifeform: Mocky: http://btcbase.org/patches/udp_errata.asciilifeform/tree/
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 20:48 diana_coman: asciilifeform, hmm, there is certainly a case for same size precisely because way simpler code
Mocky: oh shit, mircea_popescu unrated me! ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 20:48 diana_coman: asciilifeform, hmm, there is certainly a case for same size precisely because way simpler code
mircea_popescu: diana_coman 14721 or 14702 BITS long, not octets yes ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 20:45 asciilifeform: diana_coman, mircea_popescu : didja ever say wai not made'em all 1472 ?
diana_coman: strictly from an implementation perspective I'd certainly prefer to have only ONE size of message to deal with - even if it means potentially that one has to check wtf it is; still, I'll wait for mircea_popescu to weigh in on this
asciilifeform: rright, i did read mircea_popescu's spec
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 16:25 mircea_popescu: ok, so this back of a digital envelope seems to suggest we want : 1. fixed size 1470 byte rsa packets, made to work with 3920-bit rsa (of which i presume the useful message size to be 1872 bit, diana_coman plox to confirm maffs ?). such a packet has then 1696 bits spare for e and bullshit.
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mircea_popescu : didja ever say wai not made'em all 1472 ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:46 mircea_popescu: trinque she has a point, that table needs a unique on the fp column. deedbot can't accept registeration of keys it's already seen.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ahahaha could be, could be, possibly, possibly...
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 18:36 mircea_popescu: in other words, jesus god this is lovely -- whenever the girls meet the house's suddenly fulla giggles an' laughter.
trinque: diana_coman: indeed, will do
trinque: probably the diana_coman / Mocky case indicates drop
diana_coman: trinque, please drop the diana_away
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:46 mircea_popescu: trinque she has a point, that table needs a unique on the fp column. deedbot can't accept registeration of keys it's already seen.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859809 << reviewed the db, 15 keys double-regged, of which 5 have been rated only on one nick, and 4 on both (adamgibbins / whoop, MTW / rainrawr, sina / herbijudlestoids, diana_away / Mocky), rest of the keys have no ratings. ☝︎
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I know, hence ox; ("at most calves" if BingoBoingo considers that they really are just boys)
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you know, unmolested calves grow into bulls ; ox is product of human industry.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Right, there's a small herd of boys
a111: Logged on 2018-10-11 01:49 mircea_popescu: the punch line, being, i suppose -- guess the fellow's name.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey there's a reason wai the armenians ate as much lead as they did
mircea_popescu: anyway, author of above vomit is NOT anglo, but ~armenian~. in his own words, "while for an Armenian, who soon realises that his nationality is considered as something of a _faux pas_, there are none of these things, and he is entirely lost in the wilderness, for there is no solid background to his existence in another's country; and, as the days lengthen out and he grows tired of walking in the Green Park, he comes to wonder
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reads like 'ohnoez, donkey ate the carrot, how will he walk nao' lament
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: meanwhile i read the paste, it's exactly the 'peasants' thread encapsulated.
billymg: mircea_popescu: that's the plan, hoping to publish a few "guide" posts
asciilifeform: billymg: diana_coman is the current bleeding edge pilot user, she may be able to answer specific q's re practicals
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sounds , to my untrained eye at least, like spam from the site itself
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i gotta wonder, do they answer erry nigerian 419 also ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the aggrieved chix, whose spew mircea_popescu posted on several occasions
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is pretty plain that the 'oh noez, you spammed me! i'ma write lengthy whine' chixx didn't grow up in '90s
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 15:27 mircea_popescu: yes a bacillum is high tech arcana when compared to the mouthdribbler. nevertheless, the selector among high tech arcanna is precisely the bulk of undifferentiated biomass.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 15:47 mircea_popescu: but the difference between integrated world and disintegrated world is specifically important, because common view of "postmodernism" is "woe poor man, overwhelmed".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i see ipv6 as , at least in part, a deliberate scheme to make p2p ~impossible.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i noted as much ( re 'birthday' ), but did not bother to calculate the actual , aha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct, it worx for a spell ( how long, depends on the particular shitrouter )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also complicating the maffs is that the 'time req'd to be head' depends not only on particular node's 'shout', but those of ~others~
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 16:25 mircea_popescu: the probability to observe less than one event in a 85899 assay set is what, 18% or so.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 16:14 mircea_popescu: which is why all the "oh noes advertise ip" bla bla machinery is always a sign of idiocy on the part of "designer". trbi needs "ip backflow" like i need power rangers in my living room.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 16:10 mircea_popescu: diana_coman https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/173.198.225.102
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 15:00 diana_coman: possibly, no idea really; but what, they just send random udp stuff on all ports?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/173.198.225.102 ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: forestall the small wolf, be eaten by the great wolf...
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you're thinking a decade ago. they fixed this. << This. They have this "battle royal" thing now where everybody laffs over how they all die in vain
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, kako was actually trying to bake one of these, and i was almost disappointed when it flamed out and left the current cinders, largely consisting of spamola and occasional prb 'news'
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Mocky is indeed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've been on a yr+ jp kick, attempting to read some of that 1337 poetry in original..
mircea_popescu: diana_coman is he the ultimate in suave p2p ? cuz i'm starting to suspect!
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> BingoBoingo, this is a short chick, btw, who walks around here alone on a daily basis, with a backpack for 6 years, never gets bothered << I suspect mircea_popescu's comment downthread explains it. A substantial set of the Latinos appear inclined to take anything that isn't bolted down, provided nothing bad happens to them from it.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 19:29 asciilifeform: in related zoological lulz, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B53JOuVU7_0 apparently happens
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: errybody 'elects maculae', it aint as if raider-cannibal is exempt somehow from thermodynamics, still gotta find somebody to eat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's still a diff, in italy 3 harvests in year, but near moscow ~maybe~ 1
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when actually reading the german folx, noticed, they formulated exactly like this, it's no mystery.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was half-expecting you'd mention unvaccinated BingoBoingostani and their mumps. but this also worx, i suppose
asciilifeform: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.3 is all he's got running there, tho
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect that most likely it was part of a ddos, and the forged return address happened to match yours
asciilifeform: diana_coman: would be pretty neat imho
asciilifeform: diana_coman: they probe for peers
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to post the bytes ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: btc noad ? never connected to zoolag ( at least not in past month )
ave1: diana_coman, I now have a good version of the crc32 bitwise constant time algo, but I ran out of time for today, so eta probably tomorrow.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> upstack, i suspect mircea_popescu has the answ to the riddle of why bitcoin hasn't killed wu et al -- orcs still perceive having the option not to use btc << They have the option, ~for now~. We know, that the whole world currently runs on "magic money", currently. However, my hunch is that "magic money" and worlds built on fraud can not live for forever. They can last a long time, however
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> make more than from coke in a few short years. << amen
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> if this ends up settled by the mailing of a large quantity of alfajores... keks << hahah.
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe << check out the fucking lulz.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: read full list an' weep, they have ukr, old norse, ecclesiastical latin, koine greek...
asciilifeform: btw they mostly use orc translators in the field. but i suspect mircea_popescu knew this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i happen to know the 'logic', btw, it aint even a 'what countries pentagon plans for war', but dumb bean counter 'whom fewest translators for'
mircea_popescu: well, i guess the right answer to your q is that i'm way too lazy to put the work into it ? i guess simplest approach would be to convert a set of trilema records to postgres, and try your pg_trgm thing on it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they're stored sparsely, loox like
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: takes yer search string, and cuts it into trigraphs, e.g. 'trigraph' -> 'tri':1 , 'rig':1 , 'igr':1, 'gra':1, 'aph':1
mircea_popescu: how do you mean "works just as well" ? The pg_trgm module provides functions and operators for determining the similarity of ASCII alphanumeric text based on trigram matching, as well as index operator classes that support fast searching for similar strings. << seems eminently based on birthday problem, "how many different permutations of 60 characters can there be"