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smickles: lol, Diablo-D3 don't vc firms look for 15x their original investment in 1 year?
thestringpuller: Don't shut down
thestringpuller: smickles: not yet even though I could drop the cash on it I can't warrant the expenditure if I can't be sure I'll make the money back
Azelphur: smickles: have you heard the zeekrewards and BS&T rumors?
Azelphur: B) GLBSE doesn't put info out...and your screwed, forever.
dub: in fact I can't believe someone hasnt
Azelphur: and now he blames BS&T for not being able to pay people back
Azelphur: dub: it's really bad because in his thread early on he specifically says he don't invest in BS&T which is why I left so much in there, as another investment
Azelphur: he said end of september, then he said 12th oct, and now he signed in but hasn't updated anyone
Azelphur: dub: wasn't that end of september
Azelphur: spread your money out, surely it can't all go wrong at the same time!
Azelphur: now I'm waiting on clipse, bs&t and glbse (assets)
smickles: yeah, s2cm didn't get one satoshi
mircea_popescu: all the people who aren't scamming are gaining +rep with every scam.
smickles: and then didn't contact me when he clearly knew he was going to default
smickles: and the drug trad is in the gov't interest
thestringpuller: and they still haven't?
thestringpuller: Didn't a US senator give the DEA a bunch of money to shutdown Silk Road
thestringpuller: but if you can't collect on it...
thestringpuller: if there was a way to "collect" like in the physical world it wouldn't have been as bad
smickles: yeah, but really, you are :P 'merica rulz the world,, didn't you know the sec regulates securities worldwide
thestringpuller: the be like the mafia? if people don't pay break their knees?
thestringpuller: I don't think the feds like the cold
thestringpuller: or maybe I just don't know him well enough
BTC-Mining: Only if he doesn't claim his BTC-Mining shares
mircea_popescu: one can't rape the willing.
mircea_popescu: but srsly, we don't know if he was ever married or had kids.
smickles: i thought you wern't supposed to mention that guy noagendamarket
mircea_popescu: archimedes wasn't even married, it was his slavegirl cooksucker.
BTC-Mining: No, married people are less trustworthy and more at the same time. More because they can't afford prison... less because they can't afford prison...
thestringpuller: isn't nefario married?
mircea_popescu: no actually, if you actually hanker down and count heads, the scammers aren't a majority. they just seem like it cause they get more press.
smickles: BTC-Mining: yeah, that was lol, wasn't it
BTC-Mining: I must admit I don't really keep them =/
mircea_popescu: i guess it wasn't immediately obvious to people that as long as they keep the deposit slip they can prove depositing
BTC-Mining: arf, I don't want to browse her history again. But next time I see one, I'll report it to you if you want
BTC-Mining: yeah, but her posting history if full of such contested facts which she eventually admits she doesn't actually know if they're true or not.
mircea_popescu: re-read your statement above, compare with "1 case where i personally don't agree with what she said". it doesn't wash.
thestringpuller: dub: no I just didn't think the damage done by GLBSE would reach this far
smickles: oh jeez, i don't recall if i was long or short with my option position :o
mircea_popescu: not like i didn't suggest it.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla inasmuch as the giga holdings, i was. guy wouldn't keep it private, what can i tell you.
mircea_popescu: pigeons i was just reading that, didn't know they're leaking it out now.
smickles: pigeons: if he knew that he couldn't pay, then he should've at least contacted me to work something out
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli the float growed a little, but it wasn't ever much more than 1.2-1.3k or so.
dub: smickles: as long as these 'sane' people aren't also congratulating nefario on handling this in the best way possible
thestringpuller: also why isn't the SEC going after MPEX?
thestringpuller: he hasn't released information to the issuers yet...
smickles: not good if he can't make an ~11 btc payment
BTC-Mining: I don't know how much shares he had. But I suppose if he signed it with his gpg key, I could indeed pay interests to you for his debt.
smickles: and I haven't seen/heardfrom usagi for about a week
rdponticelli: I don't know... he was concerned about legal stuff too...
rdponticelli: Diablo-D3: you aren't quitting bitcoin, right?
rdponticelli: Well, if for any cause ownership of the underlying can't be acertained
smickles: Diablo-D3: tx spam? I don't get much spam other that penis pills and the like
mircea_popescu: it doesn't change that fast you know.
BTC-Mining: So no advantage to do anything split then exercise to avoid fees since we don't get it back
BTC-Mining: Wouldn't it end up like getting a mkopt without the 2% fees?
BTC-Mining: hmm... what happens if I split... then exercise the hald I don't want?
BTC-Mining: My OCD is going haywire from not being able to delete things I don't want to use anymore =/
BTC-Mining: rg: my door lock isn't a lock, it's one of those things you can turn with your nail. Not really a lock, looks like a screw from outside.
BTC-Mining: Because I don't like drunken people crashing in my bed.
thestringpuller: but there could be a scenario where some shareholders can't prove they own shares
BTC-Mining: Eh... I expect a lot of people going around saying they haven't been paid and had 2 billion shares of this and that.
BTC-Mining: Damn... of course I didn't get my BTC yet...
BTC-Mining: Well that's assuming bitcoins wouldn't keep up the deflationary curve...
mircea_popescu: this all notwithstanding that i wouldn't allow the insanity in the first place, just for the sake of argument.
BTC-Mining: I know, I don't have the funds. Just daydreaming
mircea_popescu: you still haven't produced a working scenario.
mircea_popescu: i don't follow how you profit ?
BTC-Mining: Because I can't lose more than escrow but can gain more than escrow
mircea_popescu: god i love the opinions of the incompetent on matters they don't understand
BTC-Mining: Shouldn't calls require BTC collateral (like they do) and put require USD collateral?
BTC-Mining: I lose 0.4 BTC per call struck at 12 exercised for 40 BTC loss. Other guy doesn't redeem his option because it's negative.
BTC-Mining: Wouldn't the exercising value for the put @ 20 strike be 19 BTC?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, consider the case you have 10k btc and want to ensure that they don't go under 100k usd.
BTC-Mining: So if you make a split, price moves and you don't sell any contract like you wanted, at the end of the month, it results in a 0 BTC loss or gain.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't.
BTC-Mining: But if I don't sell like I want, if price goes up/down, no loss
rdponticelli: I won't explain unixtime to an old folk
rdponticelli: I don't care about the old folks
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli you'll have to get all the old folks who don't even grok the internet accept that the sun sets at 7am ?
mircea_popescu: novusordo some people came in and said they were paid. it seemed like it's all paid but now there's also people who haven't, and the ones paid are in the <10btc range
rdponticelli: mircea_popescu: Any time, I don't care
rdponticelli: GLBSE itself didn't support timezones
rdponticelli: I don't know about the last point, I don't care if midnight is 12 or 24
rdponticelli: But yes, I understand we can't change something no to obsolete some technology which is already obsolete...
BTC-Mining: Although sundials wouldn't work if we did that...
BTC-Mining: I wouldn't mind.
EskimoBob: I haven't got anything from GLBSE
Azelphur: then I won't be poor any more, yay \o/
Azelphur: I don't even know what my balance was in GLBSE, I got sent 10.1, it sounds about right
mircea_popescu: o, you weren't paid yet ?
copumpkin: just be glad that mircea_popescu doesn't have any weird diacritics
thestringpuller: gigavps still can't payout dividends...
rdponticelli_: Well, until the client is updated, it can't know what's the balance
smickles: (funny how the sometimes aceptable mystype "ti" didn't pass my correction dector, but 'wantes' flew right thru.
smickles: ok, is it that i've had a couple, or that i'm atheist that i don't understand how the bot resembles an xmas tree?
smickles: i don't even think i spelled toautologes correctly
FabianB_: it doesn't change