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jurov: in "poor" i don'
t mean comments but actual new accounts
jurov: the response to coinbr announcement was very poor so far. and i feel mpoe-pr isn'
t exactly helping.
thestringpuller: looks like jeff didn'
t like mpoe-pr's "trolling" on the forums
mircea_popescu: tech people don'
t well distinguish the finance ppl from the scammers
mircea_popescu: scammers don'
t well distinguish the tech from the idiots
smickles: "let's find an exchange that isn'
t mpex or glbse" (meanwhile he part owns what is likely the runner up of those two)
thestringpuller: even credit cards aren'
t processed on demand, they are only auth'ed on demand, VISA/MasterCard sends a signal directly to the processor, the processor checks the available balances of the accounts and sends back an auth response accepted/declined. only at night are the accounts truly reconciled. for btc why would it be any different?
pigeons: i don'
t negotiate with terrorists
pigeons: ;rate EskimoBob -10 scammer isn'
t even a real eskimo
rdponticelli: I haven'
t, at least, and I don'
t know of anybody who has
EskimoBob: interesting. I haven'
t got any e-mails or coin
mircea_popescu: "I don'
t have to dispute or even answer you, because you're a whacked out loser." hey smickles, you suck nao.
MrTiggr: "I don'
t know how much GLBSE lost that day but I wouldn'
t be surprised if bad coding resulting in heavy losses was one of the reasons nefario wasn'
t making much money from the business."
smickles: ok, mircea_popescu i'm sure there's an arb op here b/
t mpex options and the future on icbit.se
smickles: didn'
t jcpham put it on youtube?
smickles: and in one post he wrote "I'm going back to sleep and if Smickles posts this publicly I won'
t bother commenting here further. " which i don'
t understand because this post was, in fact, posted by him
pigeons: i did apt-file search, i see its in iproute, i don'
t have that installed
BTC-Mining: I just don'
t want to explain that the money appearing in my account is not income but that I make credit card purchases for others.
BTC-Mining: Thing I don'
t like with that is it appears on my credit card/banking statements
BTC-Mining: But I have just found a renewed love for Bitcoins over a feature I wasn'
t aware of.
BTC-Mining: I don'
t see sending a fee with those zero value coins as a problem at all
BTC-Mining: Well technically, miners accept transactions with their set minimum fee, so shouldn'
t having a big enough fee along the zero value coins work?
Luke-Jr: I don'
t think any miners accept 0-value coins without a fee right now
BTC-Mining: Wow... wasn'
t aware that was even possible
BTC-Mining: Yes, but with bitcoins being divisible indefinitly and being a deflationary currency, wouldn'
t you run into the risk a colored coin becoming more valuable than the underlying asset or being colored multiple time?
cellofellow: 1 coder-size jobs don'
t usually need much funding, but bigger ones would need to be, so once your ideas are somewhat concrete, you know what to do I guess.
BTC-Mining: matthewh, no colored bitcoins. I don'
t like the idea of mixing bitcoins with shares.
cellofellow: I'm assuming you don'
t mean a peer to peer BTC-to-USD exchange? (That'd be cool, though. Not sure how it'd work though.)
mircea_popescu: dude you can'
t be creating medieval-style tokens of indivisible ownership
mircea_popescu: now a guy holding that double colored coin can'
t get rid of only one of the two
BTC-Mining: But doesn'
t affect shareholders who kept colored coins of dead assets.
BTC-Mining: No, because you don'
t have the coins from all shareholders
mircea_popescu: . It will be paid to the same address which is registered as the owner of the colored coins - but the receiver will need to be careful when spending the dividends, so it doesn'
t accidentally spend the transaction that represents the share.
mircea_popescu: i guess it's also very impopular, given the very particular ethos of the bitcoin community, but something being impopular doesn'
t make it any less sound.
mircea_popescu: the notion that you shouldn'
t allow absolutely anyone to "invest" is, imo, sound.
mircea_popescu: listen, are you aware in the us people aren'
t even ALLOWED to invest unless they have millions in property ?
Azelphur: copumpkin: don'
t forget that you're a fed too
mircea_popescu: your laziness to inform yourself isn'
t really my responsibility you know.
mircea_popescu: and on it goes, but i won'
t bother with all the many countless ways glbse was UNDER the minimum conceivable standard.
mod6: and you don'
t allow any random moron to issue a security
mircea_popescu: i don'
t appreciate the misguided attempt to turn that scandal into some sort of "oh, it's what it is"
mircea_popescu: the thing is, project managers who aren'
t brain damaged have much better titles even if what they mostly do is manage projects
jurov: mircea, good you weren'
t here when azephur said he abandoned development because he doesn'
t wanted to go to jail
pigeons: yeah i knew i wasn'
t that clever
pigeons: hmm, could have been me but probably not, i don'
t remember it. I like the comics a lot though
pigeons: oh did I? I don'
t actually read the things i paste
mircea_popescu: pigeons you were the original source of trouble tho weren'
t you, with linking that blog.
mircea_popescu: nah, it ain'
t. had they the sense to make it a state it'd have actually been interesting.
pigeons: hmm my ignore of BTC-Mining doesn'
t work on mircea_popescu's website
rdponticelli: Don'
t forget: I can'
t give it back, b/c bitcoins transactions are irreversible
smickles: "it's not illegal b/c we didn'
t use fiat"
rdponticelli: BTC-Mining: I don'
t know. I recall bulanula arguing that he can'
t return what was overpaid to him, because bitcoin transactions wasn'
t reversible
BTC-Mining: rdponticelli, who was it who refused to repay loan because that was not "theft" since bitcoins aren'
t "real money"?
mircea_popescu: but as a general principle, it's hard to ask for any third party action on a contract with a dispute resolution clause that wasn'
t met.
smickles: mircea_popescu: oh, i'll look, but i don'
t feel confident i'll find it :|
pigeons: don'
t worry about forumrates
mircea_popescu: well, let's see. usagi doesn'
t admit default, in what he posts there ?
jurov: that needs mpex acct, tho. i don'
t see an coinbr api in near future.
mircea_popescu: Got the same email, didn'
t receive any of the bitcoin that I had there, not one iota.
BTC-Mining: Also, since you consider intent, I suppose you wouldn'
t be against minors or infants who have no choice or knowing intent of causing such hostile acts. As such, why held adults responsible for inaction when they themselve are completly clueless.
BTC-Mining: the latter isn'
t really harmful, just vaguely inconvenient.
mircea_popescu: it doesn'
t even matter whether such laws are ever applied or were ever applied. the simple fact that htey exist is sufficient.
mircea_popescu: the only way to get the lazy bums out of their bubble of confort and don'
t-give-a-shit
BTC-Mining: It doesn'
t mean the US is unrecyclable or that I'd hold every american responsible for the current situation however.
mircea_popescu: well most no. but most doesn'
t matter in this context.
BTC-Mining: In any case, I'm satisfied so far of canadian laws, although I'm pretty sure there's plenty I just don'
t know of.
BTC-Mining: I'm afraid I don'
t have the skills required to do such legal research.
BTC-Mining: I'm pretty sure if even if they don'
t abound, we could at least find a few falling under that definition of yours in romanian laws.
BTC-Mining: Now the issue is, there will be laws you don'
t agree with in every country. And pretty much every country charges taxes one way or another.
BTC-Mining: That's like me saying you doing business like dinning out in a mob's restaurant is being actively engaged in a criminal enterprise. You have dealings with it, it doesn'
t mean you know or support what they do. You simply pay them for a service. Same with citizens paying taxes.
BTC-Mining: If I see they support something I don'
t agree with, then I object.
mircea_popescu: i've paid taxes in maybe twenty jurisdictions so far, i don'
t see why anyone could claim i have anything to do with them.
BTC-Mining: Except that doesn'
t really work that way...
mircea_popescu: you don'
t have to move. you just send them your citizenship in the mail and be done with it.
BTC-Mining: I don'
t see how you could reasonably expect someone who object to any single law in a country to be able to move somewhere that has no rules they disagree with.
BTC-Mining: Depends on the individual. Most people in every country pays taxes. Doesn'
t mean they all support 100% of the state.
BTC-Mining: eh, and I wasn'
t really serious, just pointing out it was a rather harsh and excessive stance.
BTC-Mining: Are you sure you aren'
t part of the problem?
mircea_popescu: anyone doesn'
t like it better bring fucking enough ammo.
mircea_popescu: noagendamarket actually,
t his is false. mpoe.etf made about 1200% over ipo price
Diablo-D3: noagendamarket: not at all, he didn'
t think the rest of the community could pony up the cash