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mircea_popescu: when mircea_popescu burned
a koran, bin laden's koran also burned.
mircea_popescu: you snap out your camera, and take
a picture of some objects in this room.
mircea_popescu: it's as if he reads his own text with
a different part of the brain.
mircea_popescu: because clearly this is
a good thing, not like they'll now be more powerful than whatever force is "opressing" them into education.
mircea_popescu: they took
a snapshot of the way educating the young worked, imagined that it's held in place by forces from mythology, and proceeded to "give kids
a say"
mircea_popescu: this is the substance of the misunderstanding. you imagine that if you take
a picture of
a pile of objects, you now have
a SPECIAL pile of objects, that does other things.
gribble: Error: You haven't asked me
a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
phf: multilevel as in specs out from framebuffer up, rather then single slice, which is what x11 widget libraries are. clim is more like framebuffer+x11+xlib+qt+"
a kind of application"
trinque will forever imagine soviets riding
a vacuum cleaner into space
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 20:15:45; asciilifeform: for n00bz: it is an actual standard. as in, it will be possible to run code written in 1985 in 2085, should something like
a computer still exist, if it adhered to the standard.
mircea_popescu: i suspect the google hiring of turds
a la hearn and
a whole raft of others to be specifically intetional.
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 19:51:15; ben_vulpes: you call it masturbation, i call it
a dalliance with what might have been.
mircea_popescu: random lulz : sorana (almost spoken as sore-anna) is
a perfectly legit ro name.
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 19:49:28; phf: punkman: it's really experimental technology. ~giant~ multilevel spec, implemented by
a handful of enthusiasts. only worthwhile if you're prepared to spend large fraction of your time on improving and debugging the gui code itself.
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 19:47:01; ben_vulpes: punkman: climacs sort of works. beirc is one of those 'look i wrote
a thing in clim and oop now i'm working for someone else and have no time to maintain it'
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 19:44:35; asciilifeform: may as well go in the opposite direction, embed, e.g., 'tinyscheme', in
a cpp turd.
gabriel_laddel: adlai: if you think computer graphics are in anyway useful -> CLIM. Else, have fun trying to map the notion of
a "presentation" to emacs text (see the magit and org-mode sources).
gabriel_laddel: They'll need to "export" the data to .csv, in
a button press have an email drafted for them with the attached file using data selected using
a slider etc
gabriel_laddel: adlai: imagine for
a moment that you're writing
a program which abstracts over
a lab instrument's controls and does
a visualization of the information it reads. The requirement is that people who use it will be intelligent, but not necessarily programmers.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Three police officials have told the Associated Press that
a woman who died in the police raid was Abaaoud's cousin. One said the woman, Hasna Aitboulahcen, is believed to have detonated
a suicide vest Wednesday in the building after
a brief conversation with police officers.
trinque: ben_vulpes: I tend to swing like
a monkey on the enclosing characters with evil's % and add/remove them myself
gabriel_laddel: CLIMACS (ugh, needs
a new name) has "structure editing" facilities, but I've not bound them yet.
gabriel_laddel: I sunk
a lot of time into it (and got it working) only to realize that I don't want to javascript no matter how s-expressiony it is.
☟︎ trinque: gabriel_laddel: I've been making excellent use of conkeror for
a while now
gabriel_laddel: phf: sort of related - I put together
a new McCLIM website with fancy screenshots
phf: gabriel_laddel: you should make
a bunch of cool masamune screenshots :)
punkman: "Should you find yourself in
a chronically-leaking boat, energy devoted to changing vessels is likely to be more productive than energy devoted to patching leaks."
phf: i think maybe it's worthwhile to patch the logger so it doesn't report until the client actually does
a read/write. if you do
a port scan on yourself, will have same effect
trinque: whaack: what do you say you get
a bouncer or set your client to not autojoin if you're going to come and go often?
phf: well, in that respect cmucl is
a decent litmus test. every single package that fails to load from quicklisp (named-readtables is the recent offender) turns out to be
a turd on
a closer inspection
ben_vulpes: there is
a local in the corner selling finely sculpted figurines of knuth that appear to be made of poop
ben_vulpes has wandered into
a 'temple', most of the gems are missing and the walls are covered in graffiti
ben_vulpes: i found
a "webserver" recently whose instantiation blocked the REPL.
phf: it's just impressions. i've been looking at
a lot of high traction common lisp code (top quicklisp packages) and there's
a lot of senseless turd polishing in the past few years. broken interfaces for the sake of "cleanliness", half baked code, needless macros, dependency hell etc. and then you look at the code and it's the same set of aggressive, google employed queergenders.
☟︎ phf: also there's less eyes on cmucl, i'm not at all convinced that the politics around sbcl are to my liking, where's cmucl is essentially abandonware. it generates code, it has
a nice interpreter, the runtime is smaller, it already has treeshaker, it's got History, etc.
phf: yeah, i'm leaning that way myself, but i'm not fully convinced yet. i'm for example trying to build sufficient knowledge of cmucl right now, to be able to take full responsibility for the behavior of my deployed system, and it's
a ~slow process~. it's handy to have paid professionals assist you
phf: asciilifeform: i enjoyed working with lispworks team in the past. i don't think it's proprietary in the same sence as msvs or such. you have to buy into
a relationship, but once you have
a contract with them, they are accommodating. you can ask them for source if you actually want to inspect it for lizard hitler traces and compile it yourself
phf: punkman: it's
a free version of clim, which is
a standard. if you're trying to release actual applications on top of climacs your better bet is to buy
a lispworks license and use their clim implementation
ben_vulpes: you call it masturbation, i call it
a dalliance with what might have been.
☟︎ phf: punkman: it's really experimental technology. ~giant~ multilevel spec, implemented by
a handful of enthusiasts. only worthwhile if you're prepared to spend large fraction of your time on improving and debugging the gui code itself.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: punkman: climacs sort of works. beirc is one of those 'look i wrote
a thing in clim and oop now i'm working for someone else and have no time to maintain it'
☟︎ trinque: commonqt wasn't
a terrible gasmask
punkman: "There are the things we need to work on to get more women into bitcoin and then the guys will just come as iron dust to
a magnet... Porn and cam-shows are good to get some men but they are not enough to form relationships. After all we need
a bitcoin women finding
a bitcoin man, marry eachother and make
a baby. That baby will be born in
a bitcoin generation with bitcoin knowledge!"
BingoBoingo: adlai: fxd, though I shouldn't have. If he wanted attention paid to his name he should have opted out of government and identified as
a public key.
assbot: Zotamedu comments on
A "Bitcoin intellectual" has some ideas on how to make it more popular, especially with women ... (
http://bit.ly/1XbzPkI )
mircea_popescu: and the 800k gallons figure is nonsense. 3.2 cubic meters of water srsly ? 150 acres is what, half
a square km ? so you're supposedly doing 4 * 8 * 10^5 * 365 / .5 / 10^6 = 2336mm rainfall
a year ?
mircea_popescu: <jurov> "Russians safeguarding the stock late in the Cold War cached tiny reservoirs of red mercury in sewing machines and radios bound for export" ahahahaha <<< there is
a very popular east european scam where "german collector" announces he is paying very high sums for "old german sewing machines".
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> irc is
a pain. you would not believe what idiocies i had put in assbot to keep it as stable as it is. << i have
a vague idea.
assbot: Logged on 18-11-2015 18:02:54; ascii_field: pete_dushenski: supposedly isis supposedly released supposed photo of the thing
a few hrs ago.
jurov: ‘‘It is not only about getting the red mercury,’’ he said. ‘‘The very small box needs special equipment to open it, and special reactors to work with it. If you open this box,
a radius of eight kilometers around you will be destroyed.’’
kakobrekla: irc is
a pain. you would not believe what idiocies i had put in assbot to keep it as stable as it is.
jurov: ‘‘Red mercury has
a red color, and there is mercury that has the color of dark blood,’’ he said.
mircea_popescu: but generally their (planeta moldova) work should be pretty hysterical to
a russian speaker with ro knowledge
trinque: I've got
a common lisp version of the bot baking which phf helped on, handles all this much better.
trinque: mircea_popescu: could just be freenode being
a pain. I notice that deedbot- will say on this end that "Remote host closed the connection" and on the deedbot- end that he looks like he was disconnected by the server.
mircea_popescu: next you're gonna say samuel clemens smoke ten cigars
a day for seventy years and all it did was to preserve him
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2014 03:08:03; asciilifeform: busy as
a bee << funny that they show an idiot sow scrubbing, and not, e.g, paul erdos crapping out theorems
kakobrekla: but if all suger would be used for brain activity, this world would be
a different place.
kakobrekla:
a sugar that is actually good for your teeth. yes, not
a joke.