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mircea_popescu: patrickharnett is in default, i have to say it. if i don't say it nobody does. buddy-buddy
smickles: they would't 51%
mircea_popescu: but anyway. the shipping problem is that companies don't have an incentive to ship for as long as what they're shipping is worth more than what the people paid for it.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin won't die just because some old boy's club tries to keep newcomers out
mircea_popescu: i for one don't think there's going to be asics in 2012
smickles: can't you calc it with a linnear gain in diff?
smickles: thing is, the diff won't stay 30m for 65 days
mircea_popescu: except the llc papers weren't signed
mircea_popescu: i don't care about your nation.
mircea_popescu: you don't invest anything.
mircea_popescu: life is only worth living if most don't make it.
mircea_popescu: they don't need any protection. they need incentives to de-weakify.
mircea_popescu: i hadn't realised just how irrelevant/self referential lefties have gotten in the us.
mircea_popescu: dude srsly. some union is sueing the republican candidate, who doesn't want them to get more public money.
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 not to burts your parade piss, but i don't imagine anyone cares what some union does
Lucidize: Yeah I'm not surprised you don't remember, many ppl would attack you for your views
mircea_popescu: Lucidize haha accepted. tho i don't remember it
Lucidize: Don't worry, I'm not a guy lol :P
mircea_popescu: as a nice bonus, the person doing that isn't usually black.
mircea_popescu: o i can't be bothered myself.
pigeons: no if you hadn't used that word i wouldn't have learned anything today
thestringpuller: glbse didn't have options
mircea_popescu: "glbbq errs : became less like mpex" is the objection. yet they can't bring themselves to utter it.
mircea_popescu: sometimes it doesn't run fast enough and the orders expire before new orders being put in
smickles: thestringpuller: there is occasionally a gap b/t when mircea's bot cancels its orders and replaces them at a new price
dub: don't worry deadterra got paid
mircea_popescu: i don't think i can look
mircea_popescu: meh, it won't install and i dun have the patience to debug it.
smickles: really? people don't make meatloaf anymore?
smickles: mircea_popescu: you don't have a laptop that has nothing valuable on it?
mircea_popescu: i checked it out earlier, but... i ain't installing softwarez
mircea_popescu: in my youth i didn't work.
dub: in my youth I didn't need sleep at all :(
jurov: nah, i don't feel like bitching today again, after that yesterday's letting off steam over jsonrpc :)
jurov: you can't compare the two depicted values
mircea_popescu: well a forum isn't really the venue for depth is it ?
pigeons: cause there is enough diareah on the forum, don't encourage more
jurov: all together, my IPO investment value multiplied ~ 24x in euros ... fucking can't believe it.
mircea_popescu: some claimed but some didn't. a well :p
mircea_popescu: i don't want to sell more shares ;/
mircea_popescu: i don't hate them, they just don't pay enough to be bothered.
mircea_popescu: those two seem to go together don't they
jurov: couldn't believe how it went on and on
jurov: can't exactly name it
mircea_popescu: nah, i can't be bothered to do it myself.
mircea_popescu: they made pretty decent music, which would count as an item for this conversation, except it wasn't valued at the time. arguably that gives them a leg to stand on
copumpkin: Diablo-D3: don't you usually use another word for them?
mircea_popescu: copumpkin even better, imagine the expense and difficulty of beating the wife you don';t even have. dr. dre got your ass!
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: but I don't have a wife!
mircea_popescu: he beats your wife so you don't have to
mircea_popescu: i don't see it sounds silly.
copumpkin: I wasn't educated in the british system
copumpkin: it also doesn't mean they're better educated
copumpkin: if we pay a bunch of poor laotians to make our sweaters, and all our sweaters are made in laos, that doesn't mean laos is taking over
copumpkin: I don't really care what archeologists will think
copumpkin: it just doesn't seem like a particularly meaningful metric to measure by
mircea_popescu: because tests don't work.
BTC-Mining: Well... I don't know... I suppose each other throwing general statements we already know at each other just like that is quite pointless...
BTC-Mining: And if that person was always dealing from TOR, never tied the bitcoins to a transaction toward one of his bank account and denies owning the address, you can't provide a proof.
mircea_popescu: knotwork there's plenty of problems. for once the scale is 1:1000, for another it wasn't a direct holding, and i see no good reason to pressure giga this way (which would be really abusive tbh)
BTC-Mining: I don't see mircea going around asking the ETF holders if they want their information disclosed to Gigavps
BTC-Mining: I'm almost sure he won't do that.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining back a year or so ago mpoe traded by email. i think knotwork isn't up to date with the new trade paradigm
knotwork: doesn't MPEx take orders via email?
BTC-Mining: I don't think mircea would do that.
BTC-Mining: [05:34] <phantomcircuit> so the answer isn't yes or no
mircea_popescu: no, im just trying to explain to ppl why starting dec 1st there won't be any f.giga.etf listed in their STAT responses
mircea_popescu: you know, you can't just not show people symbols in stats w/o teling them in advance
mircea_popescu: moreover, it won't be showing up anymore.
knotwork: (yes we deleted the shares as worthless. Oh suddenly dividends turn up? no we didn't delete rcords, presto undelete...)
BTC-Mining: And I don't like people rushing things as fast on the forum without any proof or reasonable evidence.
BTC-Mining: At least this is what the logs afterward seems to show and he didn't dispute them.
mircea_popescu: (knowing that he had spent glbse money w/o permission, which isn't disputed)
mircea_popescu: <strong>BTC-Mining</strong> If you don't know the facts, he claims to have asked the FSA about it long ago but they claimed not to be concerned by anything Bitcoins related. (Probably miscommunication). Trying to go legal, he consulted again and was told to stop or he could be charged.
BTC-Mining: be erased), that data would be kept along signed statement (as in all your data too, it was a bit of confusion in my understanding), and then the part with smickles where it went unanswered if you'd honor signed statements (not very useful if you don't keep your part of the signed data).
BTC-Mining: [21:08] <mircea_popescu> mpex isn't designed to be a sort of glbse
BTC-Mining: [21:07] <BTC-Mining> Keeping the data aside doesn't cost much logistically.
smickles: 04:46 < mircea_popescu> i didn't say i delete all data lol. i said the shares are discarded as worthless
smickles: 02:18 < mircea_popescu> BTC-Mining i can't delete "all data" man. the signed stats will forever exist.
mircea_popescu: i didn't say i delete all data lol. i said the shares are discarded as worthless
smickles: wow, you have written policy, don't you, I've gone thru this exact proceeding
mod6: haha, i was afk, then scrolled back. was thinking "didn't we just have this conversation an hour ago?!"
mircea_popescu: one'd not give a shit about the former, and even keep most of them off the active db cause mpex doesn't need to review trade #5 at any point in november 2012
smickles: oh gawd, i'm going to be in one of your posts looking silly again arn't i?
BTC-Mining: Well, if you don't mind, I have 2 final question.
BTC-Mining: If you don't want to pronounce yourself on something with unkown variables, just state it.
mircea_popescu: well, i don't think it was wasted time, something tells me this discussion will form precedent for many later discussions.
BTC-Mining: Ok, so all signed statement has a CERTAIN claim value, but you won't pronounce yourself on that value until you know the facts regarding the future situation for such claims.
mircea_popescu: because i can't make future viewing statements on contingencies like that.
mircea_popescu: no, cause it's a future question and i don't know the contingencies.
BTC-Mining: I'm really confused... can't you just say if you'll honor or not a valid claim to any shares?
BTC-Mining: After December 1st, if assets information is released, he won't honor any statements.
BTC-Mining: It WOULD be good if you didn't keep any profit from that decision from GIGAMINING shares and donated it to a charitable cause.
smickles: doesn't that imply he'll honor them before dec 1?
BTC-Mining: You said YOURSELF you won't honor the statements if the information is released after December 1st.
BTC-Mining: What that 1 month tells me is because Nefario completly fucked up, although you know about it and although you know he further screwed on the 16th and you know he's never been quite good at PR, because it could be done in 5 minutes by you (which you know won't happen) or that he might never disclose it (again, a possibility, not an absolute), you can't be assed to extend the courtesy
copumpkin: I didn't see that
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't accept one day. a week's a week. fuck you, pay me.
smickles: and without a declared timeframe from nefario, i'm starting to think that we can't reasonably expect to get the data in a reasonable amount of time
mircea_popescu: smickles i won't ask such a thing, it's absurd.