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FabianB: mircea
_popescu: it is utf-8 though if the copy&paste error is fixed
jurov: do you use a client that subtracts the fee from sent amount? O
_o
midnightmagic: alright, my curiosity is satisfied. Thanks mircea
_popescu. I'm sorry I keep persisting beyond the point normal people would.
pigeons: yeah i htink mircea
_popescu is pretending to be upset to make people more likely to see oh the rota isnt biased to mpex, let's use it
dub: mircea
_popescu: if you actually re-read teh comments with a neutral eye, it actually looks like the rota worked perfectly
dub: mircea
_popescu: one of the key aspects of legality is intent, you actions inferred the intent to refund him
jcpham: i provided excellent suggestions on how to avoid this and i think mircea
_popescu has sufficiently CYA'd for the next case of mistaken funds
dub: mircea
_popescu: well to onlookers such as myself thats exactly what it is
midnightmagic: mircea
_popescu: The whole fee? Like the judges fee?
pigeons: mircea
_popescu: people aren't so much criticizing you as trying to understand your thinking
dub: mircea
_popescu: sure you did, you asked him to prove that the txn was his by signing somethign with the key
midnightmagic: mircea
_popescu: What result *would* have made you say, "the system works"
dub: mircea
_popescu: why did you enter into arbitration during the case then?
midnightmagic: mircea
_popescu: Okay, okay. So what were you *hoping* for out of the case? That the judges wouldn't take their fees and all the money gets split evenly so nobody's out?
pigeons: that's ridiculous, there is no whole, if mircea
_popescu is afraid of losing court fees he can just credit the original deposit
midnightmagic: mircea
_popescu: The pigeons negrating wasn't the actions of a man who's upset?
dub: mircea
_popescu: if you had stuck to your rule I'd side with you, but you changed your mind after making him use the rota
midnightmagic: mircea
_popescu: I thought I had. And then to get confirmation I've been asking people, and nobody, yourself included, can tell me why you're so upset.
midnightmagic: mircea
_popescu: You told them to sue you for it in court?
midnightmagic: mircea
_popescu: Perhaps I am misunderstanding. Someone accidentally sent you too much bitcoin, right?
gribble: You rated user mircea
_popescu on Thu Mar 29 06:56:09 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: His beard is sexy..
jcpham: ;;rated mircea
_popescu
midnightmagic: mircea
_popescu: You should file for a change of venue next time. #bitcoin-court! :-)
Diablo-D3: mircea
_popescu: he only gets it right for original gen ones
Diablo-D3: mircea
_popescu: btw, I think they still make 6502s too
jcpham: if anyone killed your baby mircea
_popescu i did
midnightmagic: mircea
_popescu: Why was there even a "suit"? Why couldn't you just settle prior to the case and give him back his money?
dub: mircea
_popescu: s/passive/losing
midnightmagic: mircea
_popescu: Awww.. :-( So what makes you think there was collaboration going on?
gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea
_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
gribble: Nick 'mircea
_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea
_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is not identified.
jcpham: mircea
_popescu i've thought about this more and i think you should simply monetize mistakes
dub: mircea
_popescu: just because it didn't go your way doesn't mean that didnt happen
mircea_popescu: Jan 05 22:13:53 <mircea
_popescu> BUT! FOR SRS! I AM KEEPING ROUNDED SUMS! NOOBS BEWARE!
jcpham: other than mircea
_popescu's blog
jcpham: to be even more specific mircea
_popescu
pigeons: i knew this was policy, but in this particular case, it was reasonable that mircea
_popescu credit the amount showed to have been sent
pigeons: if another case it works out differently fine, that doesnt have to be a precedent, but in this case the fees were clearly incurred by mircea
_popescu being unwilling to work out the issue despite having the facts beforehand
pigeons: this was just clearcut mircea
_popescu you owed him the money, he won, loser pays fees
pigeons: any judgement involving mircea
_popescu keeping something would have had to show he was being reasonable, and he wasn't
pigeons: mircea
_popescu: that's absolutely the issue
dub: I understand how mircea
_popescu feels though
pigeons: mircea
_popescu: actually, it was reasonable in this case to resolve his mistake, that was the ruling
markedathome: mircea
_popescu: maybe offer, 1) anonymous deposit - lose at risk even with signed / authenticated ownership
pigeons: mistakes dont happen mircea
_popescu ?
dub: mircea
_popescu: you eveil, evil state you
dub: aside from mircea
_popescu taxing himself 10btc to handly a customer service case
dub: mircea
_popescu - the first person to create his own justice system, and the first to destroy his own justice system
dub: mircea
_popescu: you should have thought about it before using a court to settle stupid shit
pigeons: i dont know mircea
_popescu that isnt clear to me
dub: mircea
_popescu: you appear to agree to return the funds or are at least satisfied with his signing of the message, if you had won the case would have looked even more retarded
pigeons: it shows that if you expect service from mircea
_popescu you better pay to sue him and win
dub: mircea
_popescu: nah, its a dumb thing for the rota
dub: so does mircea
_popescu get neg rated?
dub: I think this is actually a win for mircea
_popescu
dub: mircea
_popescu: that doesnt make an sense, your policy is that he would not be refunded, why would that change during a rota case?
pigeons: i thought mircea
_popescu's submission was an offer to settle without going through this, but when i spoke with him he said no
dub: mircea
_popescu: it says in your sumbission that you would be prepared to pay him
pigeons: mircea
_popescu: the problem is this isn't an organic dispute, you would have paid the guy, but you decided if you made him go through the rota you would get publicity for it
pigeons: no, mircea
_popescu coached wences on how to format his claim
pigeons: jurov: i asked mircea
_popescu
jcpham: mircea
_popescu did wences ask for his money back
pigeons: but mircea
_popescu forced him to sue cause mircea
_popescu wanted to promote his rota, and we are his pawns in that
dub: mircea
_popescu: I don't understand how the rota could change that, its your policy
pigeons: mircea
_popescu could have settled with the guy then there was no breach
dub: mircea
_popescu: what changed?
pigeons: i know it says dont fuck up your deposits, and im careful cause i know mircea
_popescu will keep it, but if he's gonna use this to try to push his rota, well fact is it is a breach of fiduciary duty it is totally reasonable to fix this when shown proof
pigeons: i wanted to include that i thought the rota was a good idea and didnt expect mircea
_popescu would pt barnum it
pigeons: it was engaged because instead of mircea
_popescu just being a normal human, he used a customer service case to not fix the issue so he could force his customer to sue him to get justice, just so he could promote his rota
dub: did he then demand rota justice or did mircea
_popescu
dub: dude sent wrong amount, it seemed like mircea
_popescu was trying to help him sort it out
pigeons: yeah i wanted punititve damages against mircea
_popescu for wasting our time, using the rota as a promotion, and forcing customers to sue him just to get typical service
mod6: (11:25) < mircea
_popescu> ima hold rota entrance exams, consisting of reciting cicero and laurian in latin
jcpham: mircea
_popescu will keep the funds in the future
jcpham: mircea
_popescu is our judgement not "fair"
dub: well,
_you
_ would because of your conditioning, that success must be at teh expense of your peers
mircea_popescu: jurov
_ relationships based on tribal structures rather than flow of capital, law and ownership
jurov_: mircea
_popescu, primitive as opposed to what ?
jcpham: mircea
_popescu does payment for the rota come from the fees paid by the claimant and defendant (you)
jcpham: mircea
_popescu the rota has decided to rip you off
jcpham: mircea
_popescu in the last post it looks like the signature line is cut off:
assbot: Yes smickles
__, I'm smart like that.