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asciilifeform: 10m in ground is right place for ~everyone~ eventually.
asciilifeform: at no point will any Official organ suggest that problem is 'packing chickens 5 to a cage', rather than the beak/cleaver.
asciilifeform: but principle is the same.
asciilifeform: (recently a mega-hero nailed a room full with one)
asciilifeform: in china, they are stuck with meat cleaver
asciilifeform: 'oh noez we forgot to saw this one off correctly, need better saw'
asciilifeform: which is why the butthurt after a postal is inevitably about the pistol, or whatever ~beak~ the apoptoting chicken happened to use.
asciilifeform: same thing is done to people in 'civilized' world.
asciilifeform: so modern american farm - saws off, yes, their beaks.
asciilifeform: even chickens, when packed into cages, begin to behave ~correctly~, they cannot kill the farmer, but can try to thin the biomass that is choking off their movement and air.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-19#1279182 ☝︎
asciilifeform: $s debeaking
asciilifeform: *packed
asciilifeform: there are no postalists in places with sane population density, and sane degrees of millimortage/diem. ☟︎
asciilifeform: even certain insects will do it.
asciilifeform: 'running amock' is a thing even among rats packet into a box.
asciilifeform: *diseased
asciilifeform: when a postalist buys his kalash and begins to happily whistle as he cleans it every morning and thinks of how he will cull the diseases mass, he need not be consciously aware of why, but his behaviour is as healthy and necessary, civilizationally, as a nursing mother's.
asciilifeform: then - he woke up.
asciilifeform: when he understands (and , no - i did not have a debugger attached to his head, can only infer from the manifesto, that he ~understood~) that 'it is time'
asciilifeform: and no it does not follow that meteors have guidance systems that seek these out.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: and if meteor falls on dense traffic in usa, chances are that it flattens dictionary speaker.
asciilifeform: neal stephenson, in 'anathem', had a correct picture of cultural devolution into pictograms.
asciilifeform: no shit, necessary.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: chinese pictograms did not come from mars, no.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the 'dictionary speech' thing is 'normal' in usa. have you been here in the past decade or two ? visit some time. pick up a newspaper, or turn on a television set. talk to a stranger on the train.
asciilifeform: but the typical choice of victim is 'target-rich environment'.
asciilifeform: for all i know, the dead were all expert acrobats.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: from the article, it does not appear that the man picked up pistol and fired as a nonvolitional act of hindbrain
asciilifeform: the rest of his 'dictionary speech' cohort are still ambling about.
asciilifeform: rodger was a rare example of a sleeper ~waking up~.
asciilifeform: all of the dysfunctions detailed in mircea_popescu's analysis, are ~typical~ of the folk here.
asciilifeform: he was a rare ~cured~ american.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i disagree that rodger is a notably broken example of an american.
asciilifeform: hence the rich culture of collaborationism, spanning, e.g., most of the baltic.
asciilifeform: sometimes - did.
asciilifeform: ~for being good cattle~.
asciilifeform: so partizan 'discomforts the comfortable', night raid, quisling village is razed.
asciilifeform: partizan comes out of the forest. says to farmer, 'we need flour and milk.' farmer: 'germany gave me my land. go off to the forest before i pump you full of buckshot.'
asciilifeform: the correct analogy is the 'happily occupied' territories of, e.g., ukraine, belorussia.
asciilifeform: the cattle - moo to their grave.
asciilifeform: the latter grows a 'soul', or at least ~agency~, when he finally cocks the pistol.
asciilifeform: in just about every description of a postal in my living memory, the victims inspire considerably more revulsion in my mind than the perpetrator.
asciilifeform: if not the illustration for this.
asciilifeform: and who, while we're on the subject, are BingoBoingo's 'people of lolmart' sideshow candidates ?
asciilifeform: why does anyone imagine that the same thing did not happen to people ?
asciilifeform: ever see gravure of medieval swine ? compare with modern swine.
asciilifeform: the pathological nonlethality of modern life is a serious liability.
asciilifeform: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-24#1528506 . ☝︎
asciilifeform: carefully did not mention 'coming back.'
asciilifeform: i said 'ought to have gone to the trench.'
asciilifeform: but note, i did not say he ought to have been in the trench 'to turn into a Real Man'
asciilifeform: now this, possible.
asciilifeform: half of europe remembers it, i suspect, to this day.
asciilifeform: consider dirlewanger battalion.
asciilifeform: dunno why you're so certain of this.
asciilifeform: so long as there isn't froth and spittle, they'll take ya./
asciilifeform: y'think muster post in '41 cares about 'sane' ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-24#1528514 << why ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: good portrait.
asciilifeform: anybody here ever read brunner's 'stand on zanzibar' ?
asciilifeform: a postalist is as healthy, a necessary, thing, as a t-cell.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: which is to clean up the river of meat, by one small bit.
asciilifeform: it is my considered view that postalist is cow who ~grows~ a soul, in adulthood. and understands that there is precisely one useful thing left for him to do.
asciilifeform: unsurprisingly 0 discussion of this in tardstream organs, but what of all the billions of 'people' with no souls, who obediently moo in their stalls ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the 'could have been done' phrasing is symptomatic of the cultural illness that leads to postals being a ~necessary~ thing in the first place.
asciilifeform: (i personally could have greatly benefited from trench warfare! in the everettian sense.)
asciilifeform: or at LEAST trench warfare.
asciilifeform: or typhus.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: being run over by a 2-horse carriage at age 7 would have helped. ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: no jars, not since 1950s or so. usa is ~open air~ lunatic asylum.
asciilifeform: imho postalists ought to use wholly homemade weapons, e.g., explosive.
asciilifeform: my one criticism of 'postalists' is that they violate a cardinal rule of mircea_popescutronics: 'don't administer the beating in a way that leaves the punished believing in possibility of recourse.'
asciilifeform: so when they get the (very occasional) bill, they... moo.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : ask anyone who grew up as usaschwitz inmate. the culture is broken in ways that make dr mengele look like a harmless eccentric. they see it as a VIRTUE to keep broken people, esp. children, alive.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-10#1296052 << mega-thread re subj. ☝︎
asciilifeform: '“I’m angry that it happened, you know, that it does happen,” Pieter de Kock told ABC News. “I’m angry that it’s … it’s not changing in this country. We need to change this violence.”'
asciilifeform: '“I don’t think I would have made it without any support,” she said, fighting through the tears.'
asciilifeform: the sheer cattle-banality of the Officially-sainted martyrs seeps through.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/iVmK2 << news bulletin from the time. reading it makes me wish the fella had used a maxim gun, or sarin.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: very unusually, and afaik unlike every other postalhero, rodger's youtube thing is still up: https://www.youtube.com/user/ElliotRodger
asciilifeform: diana_coman: fella went postal and ate pistol
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-24#1528331 << all 3 mexico. the 2 that answer return SSH-1.99-DOPRA-1.5. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell Framedragger the banners really oughta have been in the userstrings. but if you dig'em up, i will retro-add them.
asciilifeform reads.
asciilifeform: to possibly abuse the mircea_popescutron in my head, some folks buy iron to be cuckolded and alimonied by it, others -- to cut its throat and make sausage; yet others - somewhere in between.
asciilifeform: sorta continuation of the 'everybody!1111 has!1111 ONE!1111 comp' thread.
asciilifeform realized just now that question http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-24#1528307 seemed quite strange to mircea_popescu most likely on account of his not buying shitware to-break-it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sample is pathetically small yet.
asciilifeform: same folks who buy cisco, juniper, huawei (which incidentally...)
asciilifeform: we have here evidence of at least four undiscovered l0ldays...
asciilifeform: the routers
asciilifeform: gentlemen: any among you happen to own one of the 'stars' of the tard-ssh round-up ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: i saw ~0 in chicago, but admittedly i was not searching for'em
asciilifeform: 'there was lolmart' != 'lolmart country'.
asciilifeform: but chicago figures prominently in the usa of my childhood bootleg vhs tapes, and st louis - does not.
asciilifeform: cannot comment, haven't yet seen'em
asciilifeform: lolmart country - not so much.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-24#1528272 << i like 1890s buildings. ☝︎