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mircea_popescu: again, this isn't fiat world and socialist government imposing it.
mircea_popescu: jurov no, it's not. the court isn't above the contract
pigeons: any judgement involving mircea_popescu keeping something would have had to show he was being reasonable, and he wasn't
dub: well then the rota wasn't what I and apparently others thought
mircea_popescu: but you can't get more ffs.
mircea_popescu: i think for everyone else its "o, that thing that couldn't have worked didn't ? o wow."
mircea_popescu: why hasn't this lively debate take place in teh comment section ?!
mircea_popescu: for the tiome you couldn't go inside cause you didn't have your keys or w/e
jurov: mircea i don't understand one thing. why you can't just set a hefty fee for resolving mistakes?
mircea_popescu: i didn't expect to win dood.
mircea_popescu: pigeons i didn't "cause" him to send rounded numbers dood.
mircea_popescu: if it weren't stupid it wouldn't end in a court.
mircea_popescu: you still haven't answered the above question.
mircea_popescu: you know, money isn't soemthing to be redistributed to the needy. or do you ?
dub: either mpex policy is 'you fuckup the deposit you lose it, no question' or 'don't fuckup but we may be able to fix it'
mircea_popescu: people won't risk their money on something untried.
mircea_popescu: jcpham that's pretty much it. you allocated the cost of fucking up to the party that didn't fuck up.
pigeons: well it won't be very useful if its only used for what you bring forward to it
mircea_popescu: and i don't push dead sells.
mircea_popescu: if we don't believe either of those it's a dead sell, no matter how hard i push it
mircea_popescu: if it made an unreasonable decision it likely won't.
jcpham: i can't see how it can be a loss
mircea_popescu: no, actually, i wouldn't have paid the guy.
pigeons: mircea_popescu: the problem is this isn't an organic dispute, you would have paid the guy, but you decided if you made him go through the rota you would get publicity for it
jcpham: it was understanding that the parties didn't try to resolve it amicably - straight to rota, no discussion
dub: I don;t understand how it went from trying to help the guy to rota
dub: mircea_popescu: I don't understand how the rota could change that, its your policy
mircea_popescu: but i'm not happy with how it works, so i won't do it in the future.
jcpham: i mean, I don't like the format myself
mod6: i really thought the court was a great idea, actually. now i just see that we don't have the foresight/legal wisdom to carry it out
mod6: we can't have these dunderhead rulings being created when people have no idea what they're even doing
jcpham: so he won't even need the rota
mircea_popescu: right. cause the bank won't do the insane sort of shit i do
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't be drama if it weren't too late.
mircea_popescu: you don't forego payment. fucking up has costs.
jcpham: didn't seem like an avaialble option though
iz: it means that hurting your opponent doesn't help you.. that's non-zero sum
mircea_popescu: no you can't
dub: its a human trait, you don't own it you selfish bastard
pigeons: well, or else people who want to help "people who cannot provide for themselves" won't have GovCo in the way and can help them
mircea_popescu: even if given free reign to kill anyone at any time most people couldn't be arsed.
jurov: not that it can't be improved... but removing it completely, srsly?
jurov: i don't know 'merica history, dunno how many people were actually violently killed there
jurov: i don't see how the argument relates.. it was not like something completely vital was removed during the '89 revolution
mircea_popescu: this doesn't prove trees can't grow on their own trunks
jurov: don't know if it's true but i heard in romania even central heating equipment was stolen in some places
Bugpowder: i don't remember
Bugpowder: we don't know the terms of course
jurov: if it goes only up, it won't be such a bit problem, maybe bonds pay only a half of MPBOR
Korbman: I didn't think we'd get this high to begin with (at least not as quickly)...so it doesn't surprise me the bids are slowing down
jurov: thestringpuller, sry i usually don't respond to summons at 04:29 CET
thestringpuller: Don't lose you childhood spirit!
jcpham: switzerland doesn't seem to have that problem fwiw
smickles_: thestringpuller: notice I didn't even finish that line b/f it dropped
thestringpuller: why hasn't my MPOE bet gone in yet
assbot: I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
jurov: don't you plan assbot or gribble bbet plugin?
mircea_popescu: 0 seats tho, i don't imagine they expected that.
FabianB: jurov: didn't know you already forwarded it to mpex
thestringpuller: don't trust his code
thestringpuller: jurov doesn't unit test
jurov: i rather won't do fractional reserve. not even for friends ;)
pigeons: if we don't have room for more orders
pigeons: and no, not if i don't deliver
Azelphur: does that mean we get to call ourselves pigeons if you don't deliver
thestringpuller: kakobrekla: didn't avalon just ship?
mircea_popescu: awww, avalon didn't deliver either ? teh shock
Jackmaninov: I was just able to log in; don't think I was having a time sync issue on my phone... Hmm
Jackmaninov: doesn't seem to be
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137149.0 i can't discern if troll or ?
gru2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idDCom9fHpM&t=1m40s
thestringpuller: i'm surprised that hasn't shown up on TIL on reddit
mircea_popescu: if it doesn't say it's either angel capital or pr (ie, fake)
thestringpuller: it doesn't say
mircea_popescu: Namworld and if done by a third party, it allows them to make whatever money is t obe made in that market.
Namworld: Don't they have feeds for that?
thestringpuller: "you know you've done things right, when people think you haven't done anything at all"
thestringpuller: actually makes it so the bookie can't rig the odds..
Namworld: eh, I don't know, what purpose would it serve to the creator?
Namworld: I won't have credits for it.
Namworld: I don't know, but I just got .01 btc... It does sound good.
mircea_popescu: but in all fairness, there's no actual proof this has anything akin to the color of truth. fact is we don't know.
mircea_popescu: haven't seen jcpham either. yo!
pigeons: well they really do think its a neat idea, and you won't be able to convince them otherwise until they turn 13 at least
Jewish_James: so im assuming the weight number a percentage? I'm trying to figure out the payout formula including the 1% fee and preventing the house from gambling its own money which i assume it doesn't do
smickles: it's only statistically b/c we don't yet know the fundamental nature of reality
thestringpuller: sorta like marriage. you know it doesn't end well statistically and do it anyway. << what about when it does?
mircea_popescu: "i bet i won't marry. if i do, you can have her"
mircea_popescu: sorta like marriage. you know it doesn't end well statistically and do it anyway.
kakobrekla: t
mircea_popescu: "it doesn't fall to pieces"
mircea_popescu: Namworld people need to start coming to terms with the fact that coding doesn't matter.
Namworld: Is there anything MPOE-PR doesn't or cannot chew on?
mircea_popescu: then it mysteriouslydidn't make the unspecified reserve
jurov: original owner silently sold it, it was discovered only cause new owner doesn't speak german
mircea_popescu: lol doens't have like 5k or something already collected ?
markedathome: but won't someone think of the cheese!
mircea_popescu: "Hi everybody - I just wanted you to know that I'm getting your mails - but I can't personally respond to all of them in good time, so I'm posting here. I've had a major personal upset that has tied me up for two days, so I haven't done the refunds as quickly as you'd like."
mircea_popescu: "Not surprisingly I have a lot of new refund mail - please understand that it takes a lot of time to work through them - no response doesn't mean I'm ignoring you. I'm also not going to work a whole lot today, as I have some life things to attend to."
pigeons: yeah but doesn't unicorn blood only work with qfn