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jcpham: it isn'
t decision to reverse blockchain transactions
jurov: jcpham, can'
t get over it?
Namworld: So I suppose I don'
t regret the IPO.
Namworld: Which means rg wouldn'
t have invited me to take over BitVPS with arij and phungus
Namworld: Plus I wouldn'
t have bought shares or known rg at all without the IPO.
Namworld: Well I didn'
t do it... and in that case, it financed rg's business actually, funds were needed.
Namworld: Actually I don'
t even really try. My threads tend to be dramaless.
Namworld: Assuming betting doesn'
t stop.
Namworld: I don'
t see why it would go on. Still people betting large sums
Bugpowder: haven'
t included it yet actually :)
mircea_popescu: , it's just not going to be feasible, and if giantdragon still had the site, apparently, he wouldn'
t have paid advertiser balances out anyway. Advertisers would use their balances for advertising, and the publishers had the ability to be paid out. If a publisher has a balance and the amount requested for withdrawal is reasonable, I'll just pay it out of pocket, but it's not like I have a massive bitcoin balance to be
mircea_popescu: Re: customer deposts: I can'
t give you guys coins that I don'
t have, but I will likely be paying users out of pocket for this in a manner that is affordable. The way the site was set up before, apparently, advertisers were not allowed to withdrawal at all. I want to change things like this to allow that sort of functionality but I am not going to be able to do that especially if you guys try to all withdrawal at once
Namworld: I just didn'
t get that from just reading the words from the link.
Namworld: Those mostly answer questions, talk about the merits of the business and mostly doesn'
t care about whatever drama or stuff happening around them.
Namworld: But she can'
t always be right.
mircea_popescu: even her recent crusade against bfl (who aren'
t poor schmucks) seems to have been on the spot
Chilca: I'm sorry, coinbr doesn'
t have a nice UI.
Chilca: but they don'
t have S.DICE
mircea_popescu: german isn'
t quite the unbridgeable cultural and linguistic gap like chinese is, so i don'
t imagine it'd make so much sense
FabianB: (i don'
t even have an account, only using coinbr)
FabianB: i wouldn'
t want to offer support, like the chinese guy ;)
mircea_popescu: FabianB don'
t feel pressured, it's purely an "if anyone wants to" thing
mircea_popescu: i don'
t have an account. and besides, i'd prefer ppl from teh community
FabianB: mircea_popescu: shouldn'
t be a problem for him to add this one sentence
markedathome: he posted in bitcointalk but no one owned up to sending it, either on purpose or in error. How he then got to the rota, I haven'
t a clue.
dub: (sure I've hit this problem before but I don'
t have access to txn history at the moment
dub: doesn'
t seem to be any way to reliably predict the fee
jurov: and it isn'
t necessarily good for coinbr..next time some lunatic decides to call statjson 10x in second and mircea decides to add a fee to it
jurov: i don'
t want to argue about it. just that i found the whole philosophy of placing pitfalls without a good reason just cause this is free country ... er.. lacking
dub: jurov: if a shop wants to make it very dangerous to go in and buy something, while its at odds with having customers, I don'
t have a problem with it
pigeons: him spelling all that out made me feel why didn'
t he just go ahead and refund in the first place
pigeons: mircea_popescu: people aren'
t so much criticizing you as trying to understand your thinking
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Okay, okay. So what were you *hoping* for out of the case? That the judges wouldn'
t take their fees and all the money gets split evenly so nobody's out?
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: The pigeons negrating wasn'
t the actions of a man who's upset?
jcpham: maybe in this future case that doesn'
t exist
mircea_popescu: this wasn'
t supposed to be neither arbitration nor mediation tho.
mircea_popescu: cause it wouldn'
t work in the toilet, right ? so it'd be clearly shenanigans there.
Korbman: BFL pulled the same empty case stunt, and I don'
t really care that it's empty to begin with. It's just there to try and appease some of the people looking for pics
Korbman: the case doesn'
t seem to have a backing
jurov: at least why there is so much light? looks like whole rear side isn'
t there
Korbman: don'
t thank me, thank google haha
pigeons: Now I withdrew from mtgox a long time ago \ Don'
t you see how late they're reactin' \ They only come and they come when they wanna
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Why was there even a "suit"? Why couldn'
t you just settle prior to the case and give him back his money?
mircea_popescu: that doesn'
t change the fact that if i let things stand i can wake up tomorrow to 5000 fresh cases.
Namworld: Irreversible? Maybe. Technically if someone hands you six 20 bills instead of 5 for a 100 payment, it's also irreversible if the other person doesn'
t hand it over. Both would require forcing the other party to give it back.
Namworld: An occasional typo can popup, which doesn'
t mean the person didn'
t read the instructions.
mircea_popescu: but the bounced cheque comparison is possibly valuable. i don'
t imagine anyone with a bounced cheque failed to argue he made a mistake
jcpham: 10btc for any returned funds isn'
t complex
mod6: wasn'
t there like a block of 10`000`000 at .00062 and .00064 and .00066?
jurov: lol i realized i can'
t enter rota even if i wanted
jcpham: the judgement wasn'
t bullshit
mircea_popescu: bullshit "claimant is always right and mp is annoying and rich" judgements i don'
t need a court for, they're a dime a dozen.
mircea_popescu: normally i would have loved to say yes, but under the circumstances i don'
t see myself signing.
Namworld: I don'
t know. Who's in the rota? How do I start anything?
dub: mircea_popescu: just because it didn'
t go your way doesn'
t mean that didnt happen
markedathome: then isn'
t that the jurisdiction, and should be used as the basis? and if so which if any of the ruling matched?
markedathome: doesn'
t have mpex deposit so would be difficult to find?
markedathome: jcpham: the q5 syntax deposit doesn'
t have that addition, the output of the command did.
mircea_popescu: DEPOSIT|{sum}, where the sum is an integer, written in BTC (note that you can not deposit less than 10 BTC). You will be quoted an exact sum, which you must send to the exchange address (1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx). Don'
t round anything, the decimals are there to identify you as the beneficiary. You will be credited the full amount. Incoming Bitcoin that doesn'
t exactly match a quoted sum will be simply kept, r
markedathome: rota peeps - faq q24, whilst not strictly mentioning deposits, isn'
t this also relevant?
jcpham: sorry i didn'
t know you switched
jcpham: there was a sentence saying you didn'
t return deposits that were wrong
mircea_popescu: reading the above, i now regred i didn'
t more clearly stress the supremacy of contract point
mircea_popescu: the court can'
t substitute its own moral judgements for the contract between the parties.
pigeons: its pretty well established in law actually that you don'
t pay for mistakes
jcpham: if the guy hadn'
t send the correct amount
jcpham: it wasn'
t necessary to frame this case this way imho
jcpham: but i don'
t like the winner/loser description
mircea_popescu: but i squarely don'
t see how anyone would ever consider responding to a case, ever.
jcpham: i wouldn'
t think so either
jurov: the court isn'
t above the contract... who decided, you?
mircea_popescu: DEPOSIT|{sum}, where the sum is an integer, written in BTC (note that you can not deposit less than 10 BTC). You will be quoted an exact sum, which you must send to the exchange address (1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx). Don'
t round anything, the decimals are there to identify you as the beneficiary. You will be credited the full amount.