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pigeons: you don'
t wanna get mixed up with a guy like me Dottie
jcpham: don'
t facilitate MP getting onto somethingawful
davout: mircea_popescu: if not we're going to end up with a network made only of miners, and miners won'
t have an incentive to relay fee-paying txes to their neighbors
davout_: i don'
t mean to say what other should do, but if i had an easy to way to not relay txes matching certain patterns i'd definitely do it
iz: so even though a 0.005 tx fee isn'
t that much in real currency, it can seem like a lot if you only have 0.1 BTC to your name
Luke-Jr: Ukyo: Bitcoin isn'
t anonymous.
Luke-Jr: Ukyo: it hasn'
t. SD is just forcing it to fail
iz: pigeons: can'
t they just decide to reject any transactions that have a tx fee below X?
mircea_popescu: you can'
t cope, there's no rule every idiot under the sun has to be involved.
pigeons: iz: SD can'
t control what fees their users pay, and the fees would have to be very high to negate the negative effect
davout: Luke-Jr: code a forl that doesn'
t relay sd txes, i'll use it, seriously.
iz: can'
t SD just raise fees for their transactions?
Luke-Jr: Ukyo: they're only there to DISCOURAGE spammers; which doesn'
t work for SD because it has an unlimited supply of idiot gamblers to cover the expense
awkorama: ohw is that rational? don'
t they get transaction fees ?
mircea_popescu: because rational miners haven'
t been including its transactions
pigeons: there isn'
t "balances per address"
iz: so.. if you have a majority of the hashing power, but not a majority of clients.. even if you were to change the bitcoin client rules, you couldn'
t get these new rules into the block chain
Namworld: plus we don'
t need the whole blockchain history to do transactions, do we?
Namworld: I don'
t see the problem with SD transactions.
davout: Luke-Jr: I was under the impression you put words in my mouth, i don'
t give a fuck about what goes into the blockchain, be it financial transactions or religious messages if you see what i mean
davout: iz: just because there are rules everybody agrees upon doesn'
t mean there is a proper spec, this has been discussed like a million times, and it is why i wholeheartedly welcome the cbitcoin initiative
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: no, it isn'
t.
iz: you can'
t just change those rules to "fork" bitcoin
iz: in the same way linux and windows both conform to TCP, even if they aren'
t implemented exactly the same
Namworld: You can'
t distinguish a satoshi from another?
mircea_popescu: dude, fact of the matter is, the 99.8% miners that aren'
t you do mine it.
iz: if they don'
t they won'
t work
Luke-Jr: davout: it's a logical fallacy that mircea_popescu doesn'
t understand
iz: sure, but it won'
t work on the network
iz: kakobreklaa: then it wouldn'
t be a fork
iz: but then it wouldn'
t be bitcoin
davout: Luke-Jr: i politely beg to differ, it's a feature, not a bug, if you do not want these delicious transaction fees, don'
t mine the SD txes, *boom* problem solved
Namworld: It can'
t handle anything serious
Namworld: If the blockchain can'
t handle SD
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: SD's DDoS isn'
t useful at all
mircea_popescu: so anyone actually know how much hash elgius is doing these days ? they don'
t seem to have it on the main page anywhere.
mircea_popescu: i couldn'
t care less, honestly, but the pompous miner ass is getting on my nerves.
davout: the "none of you other people matter" attitude has one big advantage : you don'
t really need to justify yourself
mircea_popescu: "there is one actual aplication making btc useful. we should act like we matter tho we don'
t and pretend like we can kill it tho we can'
t"
luke-jr_: davout: heh, I didn'
t say I was important :P
davout: mirea_popescu: just because i'm poor doesn'
t mean i know how to read romanian
davout: mircea_popescu: i couldn'
t tell them apart, balls were touching
mircea_popescu: i can'
t understand envy masquerading as "responsibility".
mircea_popescu: and this even if we don'
t pay you as much as waitresses make
mircea_popescu: well ok, how's this for public comments : all you boys together don'
t clear 10k btc a month.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: I wasn'
t aware we should be impressing you. :)
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: txn that don'
t DDoS can stick around.
mircea_popescu: miners that don'
t mine can find a job in obama's booming economy
Luke-Jr: Anduck: you send to a one-time-use address to deposit, play as much as you like on the site; when you're done, you enter the withdraw address and it sends the balance back; if you don'
t do anything for 5-10 mins, it sends it back to where it came by default
midnightmagic: lol. We outnumber them both in terms of brains, and in overall hashrate. They couldn'
t afford to directly compete against the long tail. Not yet.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: There an ancillary issue (for miners at least) for txn verification as well. I don'
t really view the max block size as an issue, since I have no trouble running multi-TB databases, so I, personally, will have no issue remaining a node even if maxblocksize increases massively
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic you won'
t believe this (yes you will) but gavin brought consensus to the maxblocksize issue.
thestringpuller: because it's in romanian and I don'
t have a translator on dis computer
jurov: you just didn'
t look sufficiently hard
thestringpuller: the seller didn'
t get nabbed so it's kind of a moot point, since he can'
t really snitch
mjr_: can'
t wait till thursday lol
mjr_: i'm surprised that mt. gox at least doesn'
t have a cluster
mjr_: i guess it won'
t be that hard
mjr_: tbh i haven'
t used much xml, but is it as easy to get objects?
mjr_: i didn'
t know you worked on mpex agent smickles
mjr_: and i meant can'
t use it cuz of four day clearing over the weekend
mjr_: i like coinbases locking in your price (can'
t use my money but at least i'm not losing it)
mjr_: jurov: that would be one nice thing about a trading platform...you wouldn'
t have to type so many nubmers
mjr_: decimals get way too hard to remember cuz we don'
t really have a great way to say numbers like that
jurov: why can'
t one use ints exclusively? and rounded floats only for display?
awkorama: mongo wouldn'
t be able to compare such numbers in where clause
mjr_: i think you can set precision can'
t you
mjr_: yeah that i don'
t know
awkorama: doesn'
t anyone just use bootstrap.js for ui ?
mjr_: i would like to do mine that way, but it wouldn'
t really work
mjr_: plagiarists rarely do that, haven'
t we all kinda paraphrased stuff for our papers after copy pasting?
mjr_: hmmm difficult with NDA then...you probably are trying to assure they don'
t tell someone outside of here (i am assuming)
smickles: bitcoincharts might get lucky where you don'
t awkorama: as in, if I don'
t receive a websocket update in 10 seconds, hammer the REST ?
awkorama: oh ok, doesn'
t help me then, thanks anyway :)
awkorama: smickles: I understand that you don'
t want to share your secret...
smickles: awkorama: i switched to something that doesn'
t require me to be 'up to the second' on gox
mircea_popescu: Anduck a better question is, why doesn'
t the forum use some of that 5k btc it has collected over the years
mjr_: i was just always confused why they wouldn'
t lift the ask
mjr_: yeah defintely wouldn'
t be worth it for arb lol
mjr_: that is what doesn'
t makes sense to me
mjr_: i wasn'
t thinking of arbing it
mjr_: you didn'
t account for the 100 to 1