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assbot: Logged on 16-12-2015 19:09:17; assbot: Successfully added a rating of -1 for coblee with note: plagiarist. shill.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 04:33:15; punkman: "But I'm game. Give me a problem with 1,000,000 lines of C. But don't expect me to read the C, I couldn't. And don't think I'll have to write 10,000 lines of Forth. Just give me the specs of the problem, and documentation of the interface."
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349099 << there are NO programming problems which merit a million lines of c. FOR THE SAME REASON as there are no architectural problems which merit a megatonne of tongue depressors. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 00:39:32; ben_vulpes: i don't see a macri coming by to devalue the webstack though. have been struggling to cook up the scenario wherein the world's managers declare technological bankruptcy and completely failing.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 00:27:34; mircea_popescu: nobody cares to look at the root causes. "hey derps ? you're being as inefficient as humanly possible" "well of course, any other course would be an economic disaster" "your idea of economy is like a rat's idea of hygiene : the more sewers the better" "so ?"
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 00:06:59; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> pressing of cd was perhaps the ONE good idea in openbsd <<< certainly not a bad one.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349020 << i'd like to actually press a cd. with the understanding that everything that will ever happen to the reference implementation, incl. compiler, asm, the whole toolchain shebang, all kernels worth looking at from the past, all trb dependencies, etc. WILL BE ON IT ☝︎
punkman: problem is how do you make a spec out of 1mil lines of C
punkman: "But I'm game. Give me a problem with 1,000,000 lines of C. But don't expect me to read the C, I couldn't. And don't think I'll have to write 10,000 lines of Forth. Just give me the specs of the problem, and documentation of the interface." ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 23:34:54; mircea_popescu: and if you want actual numbers, i just got a coupla girlies an apt. the sale value would have been i guess 160-170k or so. the monthly rent is 750. the first month, the washing machine went, and the owner replaced it. the next month, ac went (brother was that an incredible pos job wow), owner replaced it. so far owner's been making 0 from his property.
mircea_popescu: gabrielradio any place that currently has currency controls in place is a good bet ; any place where rents are below cover value (romania - perhaps with the exception of bucharest - is a fine example here). any country with a weak central government (the ones with a strong central government don't have a middle class by definition). on it goes.
mircea_popescu: how's he not better, how's he different from every afrigan goat ex-herder (the flood/drought/global warming/xenu killed the goats) that's now a garbage trawler ?
mircea_popescu: well he moves on to medium, and keeps at it. one of these days, if he wishes it hard enough, someone somewhere is going to trade actual bowls of soup and actual bong hits and so forth for some shit he found on a hard drive in the garbage dump.
mircea_popescu: shit doesn't make sense there, chiefly because wtf, it's still a pointless perl script nobody cares about. so he...
mircea_popescu: so 1st, he's going to "sell" the genius "service" of literally a half hour's worth of perling around. and goes through all the motion as if this nonsense were genuinely a business, and had anything to do with money, employment, the works.
assbot: A startup postmortem with a happy ending? ..in... | By the Beard of Zeus! ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nvz17S )
mircea_popescu: just look at this fucking derp, he's a fine example as can be imagined : 1) http://fridriksson.tumblr.com/post/86584610871/a-startup-postmortem-with-a-happy-ending-in ; 2) https://medium.com/@tfridriksson/when-your-startup-runs-out-of-money-you-only-got-1-problem-f84cad5b0f79
mircea_popescu: ile of three curls and a grep.
mircea_popescu: the way this shitshow worked is that every single fucking derp running the "changing the world" pseudo-entrepreneurial circuit is trying to encapsulate a short perl program into "a website" and then "sell it" to "a market". because fuck me, seriously, there's now "a market" for five awk calls. every single fucking "service" and "idea" and "product" and bullshit out there looking for "investment" is really a glorified p
mircea_popescu: at some point and on some level the nude reality of "this guy wants you dead. no, he doesn't think you did a great thing. he doesn't even think you're 'not worth hiring' or even worth zero. he thinks you're so far under 0 it can't be put in other words". and "aaaah, he's crazy" only goes so far.
ben_vulpes: i don't see a macri coming by to devalue the webstack though. have been struggling to cook up the scenario wherein the world's managers declare technological bankruptcy and completely failing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "It is in a programmer's best interest to exaggerate the complexity of his program."
mircea_popescu: nobody cares to look at the root causes. "hey derps ? you're being as inefficient as humanly possible" "well of course, any other course would be an economic disaster" "your idea of economy is like a rat's idea of hygiene : the more sewers the better" "so ?" ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile a whole lot of "global warming" snake oilmanship and heaps upon heaps of idle handwringing about various restatements of the "ecology" problem.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> pressing of cd was perhaps the ONE good idea in openbsd <<< certainly not a bad one. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you know we really need a lot better communication for these things.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-12-2015#1348882 << i said this because a GB of c source IS NOT ANYTHING-IFYABLE << it's a starting point. you know, just like bitcoin-shitcore. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in other news, the oh in ohio is a pretty decent movie.
adlai: the culprit is variadicity, syntax is a lot easier when all operators have known 'stack effect'
adlai: "As an infix language, it encourages nested parentheses. Sometimes to a ludicrous extent. They must be counted and balanced." << some maintain that even prefix notation has this effect...
jurov: http://www.colorforth.com/1percent.html haha dude asks we give him a problem
mod6: there's just a ton of stuff to do, 'tis all.
ben_vulpes: yeah we might get there and again stan might get hit by a bus tomorrow
asciilifeform: medicine for a corpse.
ben_vulpes: it's vastly more likely that someone's going to need to crap out a patch for eg openssl than replace it wholesale.
asciilifeform: alternatively the whole orchestra is removable if somebody finds a bag of gold
asciilifeform: a la openbsd.
ben_vulpes: implies deps on dns, net, a million failure points.
asciilifeform: but yes, fetching tarballs from the net during a build is retarded
mod6: or simply just a manifest of tarballs/deps required for the one-button-push deployment of trb
mod6: they're all a can-o-worms
asciilifeform: if i ever sign a bdb, boost, or openssl as 'honestly reviewed this' please shoot me
ben_vulpes: (the kernel line was a joke, but whatever)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-12-2015#1348882 << i said this because a GB of c source IS NOT ANYTHING-IFYABLE << i may have mis-remembered this or conflated it with something else. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i picked buildroot because it was the ONLY practical solution to letting folks who had not dedicated their lives to self-torture build a reasonable self-contained linux for $weirdcpu
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-12-2015#1348879 << buildroot, iirc, will load tarballs from a local dir if they are present << yeah I think it does this from the 'dl' directory ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-12-2015#1348882 << i said this because a GB of c source IS NOT ANYTHING-IFYABLE ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-12-2015#1348879 << buildroot, iirc, will load tarballs from a local dir if they are present ☝︎
BingoBoingo: I might have been a while since I paid attention to Linux kernel versions
mod6: I think this was the conversation from a few weeks ago: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340754 ☝︎
asciilifeform: i go pet a pet for an hour and come back to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-12-2015#1348866 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "you're a whore now anyway, baby, so why not suck this cock"
ben_vulpes: i'm leaning towards a 'monorepo'
mod6: dl'em, sign 'em, hash 'em, put 'em in a manifest and distribute?
mircea_popescu: in other news, one inch of costa rica coffee, three inches of milk, a pinch of black sugar, three drops of vanilla oil (actual!), four ice-cubes and havana club anejo especial (genuine) qs makes the god-damnedest... bootleg kalhua let's call it/
mircea_popescu: probably will end up having to freeze a specified set.
mod6: I've been in halt mode for a week now, not sure if this has been sorted yet.
BingoBoingo: "When police responded to the accident, a witness said a police car had caused the damage and fled."
BingoBoingo: "Somehow this soft suburban environment and two witlessly loving parents who trusted friends, relatives, teachers and neighbors with their oldest son, resulted in a violent psychopath. " >> http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3490
BingoBoingo: It's good stuff. Just doctor sort of lithium doses aren't very good for actual hot weather. That much of different salt really messes with the sweating and made for a miserable summer.
jurov took cooling a bit literally
BingoBoingo: jurov: AHA. I was just thinking something to reduce the voltages a bit, though too much lithium takes the action potentials up to 111eleventy!!! and seizures.
mircea_popescu: above, simple weighted averaging. if you have any knowledge of the field there's prolly a better curve to use
ben_vulpes needs a refresher in elementary statistics apparently
ben_vulpes: i guess i'm asking if there's a known closed-form solution to this question.
jurov: they're not pathological, just black swans. with a toupee. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: there are n candidates, each with individual odds of winning a competition. how do i derive odds on the whole field from those binary outcomes?
ben_vulpes: unless i'm even wronger than normal that's not a clean mapping
TheNewDeal: there's a lot of loose ends that are popping up for me
ben_vulpes: where's the "MPEx down for over a month in 2016" bet?
ben_vulpes: TheNewDeal: mircea_popescu's boxes are getting stolen and you're complaining about a bad trip?
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TheNewDeal: Have you ever had a bunch of people in a room act to lead you on to do something?
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TheNewDeal: I know you're trying to play me for a fool
TheNewDeal: I'm telling you they used carbon monoxide training, or a similar gas on me in the hospital
trader001: sorry... I meant buy for 436 to do a little day trading
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal honestly, this sounds a lot more like a psychotic episode than anything in phenomenology.
TheNewDeal: they had used mind control tools. they were literally prepping me with questions to talk to a psychiatrist the night before
TheNewDeal: I didn't think that sending a couple transactions would bring on this type of firepower from the US
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: for some reason they never fire at folks who own a spectrum analyzer, even a very old and ratty one
TheNewDeal: like the ones that require a spectrum analyzer
mircea_popescu: seems a little far fetched doesn't it ?
TheNewDeal: I believe that they used my family to set me up, and now they're going to punish me capitally for sending a bitcoin tx
asciilifeform: yeah but original term meant something specific, quite analogous to chopping off your own arm that's been bitten by a cobra etc
mircea_popescu: normally this works by going A implies A', B implies non-A',
asciilifeform: anyway you don't get cycles unless somebody was a badboy
mircea_popescu: only took me half a minute!
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 18:25:35; asciilifeform: re: earlier thread: a few hours of thinking led me to another potential boojum in 'v' : cyclic graphs
mircea_popescu: how about you just add the documentation as a pathc.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-12-2015#1348552 << im not sure this is such a good idea. conceptually it dillutes the whole notion, practically it makes cyclicity a nightmare. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: the other thing a vtron needs to handle is orphans << heh.
mircea_popescu: and thius is a good thing.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (you simply end up with a dead branch on the tree) << very much this
asciilifeform: (you simply end up with a dead branch on the tree)
asciilifeform: and in fact makes a convenient record of what's been tried and rejected
jurov: http://img.appd.lengxiaohua.cn/2014/10/17/5440ffa3b45e1_o.gif or a family
asciilifeform: by the next new moon, the remaining you will be a mircea_popescu . ~~~
asciilifeform: 'every morning, when you wake up, look in the mirror; if you notice that you are not a mircea_popescu, ☟︎