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asciilifeform: if i had time, i'd buy the thing and publicly rape it (differential power probe) but i haven't the time. ☟︎
asciilifeform: but with moar faux 'proof' slathered on (it signs a helloworld with the privkey every time it is switched on, etc.)
asciilifeform: really 'opendime' is a small variation on the tired old 'physical coins' theme.
asciilifeform: fire is not a sham sold under wholly spurious pretense.
asciilifeform: 'Yes. It's like a piggy-bank. You must destroy it to spend the funds. At first that seems expensive and wasteful, but it's a key part of our security model: you can trust a sealed Opendime, and it's obvious when it's been opened.' etc. is a lie. ☟︎
asciilifeform: but also from the sheer antipedagogic (is there better term?) effect of the thing even being taken seriously by anyone.
asciilifeform: problem begins when it is a $1000 bill.
asciilifeform: ( https://opendime.com/legal )
asciilifeform: emble or convert into human readable form any part of the Product or Software or create derivative works based on, or any competitive or emulating software, service or solution using, any Product or Software; ' << moar lel
asciilifeform: 'Restrictions. You shall not: (a) except as expressly permitted herein, reproduce, duplicate, copy, disclose, sell, resell, sublicense, distribute, assign, transfer, give away, loan, lend, lease, publish, pledge or create a security interest in the Software or use the Software other than in connection with the Product on which it is included; (b) modify, port, adapt, translate, reverse engineer, unbundle, repackage, decompile, disass
asciilifeform: but rather it is a carefully-designed weapon against the buyer, who pays for, aims, and fires it with own hands...
asciilifeform: i quite enjoy reading about machines that are ~intrinsic~ scamatrons - i.e. the design cannot possibly be described as 'honest mistake', or even product of ordinary stupidity
asciilifeform: it is not especially hard to make physically-indistinguishable device where i know privkey in advance before giving the 'uncopyable' item to a chump.
asciilifeform: gotta love the neverending attempt to make water non-wet. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Can I re-seal after breaking the center? No. A permanent change is made inside the flash memory of the processor.' << which i can't remove and replace with identical-looking one, containing same procedure, exactly why...? ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'There are a number of ways to verify the device; first, you can click on a link shown in the index.htm file present on the device. That link includes a signed message, that only an Opendime with access to the private key can generate.' << who wants to buy one of these things and see what the nonces look like. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( generally there are few enough active sc4mz0rz peddling hardware that i normally take the sweat to read their output, it is educational )
asciilifeform: *ensures
asciilifeform: whole thing linked here solely to illustrate the kind of braindamage without which promisetronics could not exist. it occurs to no one to ask ~what ensure that it behaves like-so~.
asciilifeform: re: earlier link, https://github.com/opendime/opendime/blob/master/unsealed/advanced/rngverify.py << if you read this, it is trivially obvious that the manufacturer can trivially supply a secret (presumably a pill against their rng) that would allow a user to silently spend the contents of a 'sealed' drive. ~how~ is left as exercise for readers.
asciilifeform: https://opendime.com << moar great promisetronics. 'There is no way to input data as the drive is read-only. Also, a new random nonce is signed each time you power up device. You can also plug/re-plug to get a new nonce and matching signature.' etc.
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: phf: then keep a (gensym) thing on the server you can call.
asciilifeform: srsly tell me why this needs to live on server.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: just generate the necessary html on own box prior to posting
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it isn't clear that the thing needs to be a plugin
asciilifeform: http://frass.woodcoin.org/bitcoin-is-socialist-some-more-2 << more recent lulz from same.
asciilifeform: (well, other olds.)
asciilifeform: http://frass.woodcoin.org/rip-the-news-1704-2013 << in other noose, funkenstein_ reports 'death of news'. lulzy.
asciilifeform takes off hat.
asciilifeform: looks like fella got a 1st class barbed wire education.
asciilifeform: komyoooniti.
asciilifeform: ( does adlai post by morsing on the wall of his cell ? he hardly ever speaks these days )
asciilifeform: adlai: that didn't actually save anything...
asciilifeform: phf and possibly other folks will find v. toth's ~entire www interesting. it is one of these quite educational but at same time mega-depressing 'these people aren't made any moar' affairs.
asciilifeform: https://www.vttoth.com/CMS/personal/247-vp-01m << in other, quite unrelated olds.
asciilifeform: (per my estimate of the transistor count, i'd say that a 100% cycle-for-cycle clone could handily sit down in a $100 fpga and leave plenty of room for, e.g., modern colour vga, etc.)
asciilifeform: but this was long ago.
asciilifeform: i even offered to dks to make formal commercial partnership to build clone, and he gave impression that he was interested but unfree to agree
asciilifeform: at the time i was fixated on ~cloning~ the machine and was quite disappointed with the docs, there is minimal discussion of internals.
asciilifeform: takes up most of a shelf.
asciilifeform: i have the dead tree version, it was given to me as a gift by an old and tired ex-mit fella
asciilifeform: Framedragger: these really wanted to be read on the machine, it was the original and - imho - still best of all time 'context doc' system
asciilifeform: Framedragger: https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_symbolics << a start ☟︎
asciilifeform: at any price.
asciilifeform: in unrelated noose, one of my recent digs concluded with the sad discovery that nobody on the planet is any longer supplying microcontrollers with uv window eprom in appreciable qty.
asciilifeform: bigger camera ?
asciilifeform: what do you need to make'em happen ?
asciilifeform: btw phf , can haz schematics ?
asciilifeform: noshit.jpg
asciilifeform: which is why any item that is of interest here, ought to be picked up and nailed to the floor, as i nailed trb's deps.
asciilifeform: phf: there are two and precisely two kinds of heathen proggy: the kind that's been poetteringized, and the kind that will be.
asciilifeform: it got 'flycheck'-ed.
asciilifeform recalls thread
asciilifeform: notation problem.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-15#1542326 << i suspect that we didn't actually disagree on this to begin with. ☝︎
asciilifeform: and if it is found on my disk, then it loads, otherwise asks permission to look in various preprogrammed places
asciilifeform: where i could, e.g., (require "a591af341ff436f6a3391aa5163f6bc366358b719427154f88815d87213798c92eae4923e6be147b92c04562619564d7a64ad9ac51ca08e5165b0b4b3da9813a") would bring in ircbot
asciilifeform: trinque: a fully vtronic replacement for asdf and quicklisp would rock
asciilifeform: trinque: read the thread. and, for that matter, the tinyscheme thread. mircea_popescu has a very particular idea of what 'abolish libraries' entails.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu apparently false alarm - was unreachable from usa for several minutes
asciilifeform: trinque: i read it.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu dulap is down and i have no idea why. dead ping.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i was referring to the pinoy pit of 'bitcoin' 'news', rather than the salt mine thestringpuller toils in.
asciilifeform: what sort of work do you do , thestringpuller ?
asciilifeform: why are you eating in the latrine pit thestringpuller ? you ain't a pig
asciilifeform: which is poppycock to the literate folk, but they are not the target audience.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: lulzy pinoy campaign. appears to promote the idea that there is such a thing as being successfully double-spent against as a user of actual bitcoin.
asciilifeform: 'we'll fly to the sun! at night!'
asciilifeform: 'polish astronaut'
asciilifeform: idiots.
asciilifeform: and yes. '$.get('https://blockexplorer.com/api/txs/?address=' + CONFIG.btcAddress)'
asciilifeform: cheat with bc.info or similar, is my guess.
asciilifeform: i still dun get how the thing worx without downloading entire blockchain
asciilifeform: in other lultronics, https://github.com/elendirx/web2web << i liked even 'freenet' moar. the endless xerocopies of xerocopies of ...
asciilifeform: we're headed to 'Му sister, do you still recall, как Ельцин бился мордой в пол…' arent we.
asciilifeform: it + the other page
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: ty mod6
asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu noted.
asciilifeform: phf: there is 1 and only 1! pill that cures .
asciilifeform: anyway this is not a bug report for mod6
asciilifeform: this was not in trinque's cookbook.
asciilifeform: ah looks like you gave it explicit destinations
asciilifeform: but with ~different~ project the second time
asciilifeform: it.
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: mod6: i simply followed trinque's recipes verbatim, one after the other.
asciilifeform: and produced no patches
asciilifeform: mod6: second aborted
asciilifeform: mod6: i tried to init twice
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu nailed it
asciilifeform: so it can be updated on venus for all i care
asciilifeform: i dun load the updates
asciilifeform: phf: tell me what means 'being updated'
asciilifeform: mod6: i'm thick. point finger to the important bit plox
asciilifeform: mod6: aha?
asciilifeform: i dun think i changed mine since... 2009?
asciilifeform: phf: how does it 'constantly change' ?
asciilifeform: i can piss bits b/w processes, and , in most actual instances, 'privesc' entirely and do whatever.