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mircea_popescu: it's a win-win : the noobs get bragging rights (which they don't know how to use, but hey, youth), mtgox gets out of some stick.
mircea_popescu: after the french fiasco they certainly didn't feel the need for a replay, so.
BingoBongo: I dunno yCombinator has all of that renting apartments out to methheads money Mircea, it was probably either bought, hyped, or humiliated. I don't think Gox was forced, but I say this with a low degree of confidence.
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, god knows i'm well loved and i can't think of anyone or anything that'd have it in for me.
BingoBongo: You're welcome. It's one of those World Baseball Classic penny bets, because apparently that didn't have enough chutzpah to attract much interest. I've had too much vodka tonight to mess with the python script so I don't know at this weight if I will clear anything, but fuck it. Bitcoin is an MMORPG and that's what I'm telling the 5-0
mod6: well, this one isn't too old, and it's got 19 confs: http://blockchain.info/tx/d8dac0508d27e922f957c893c896f6f887a7dc614c1aec1c89b27b943ff5be0f
Luke-Jr: the client isn't broken.
mod6: i don't want them to wait 3 days
Luke-Jr: mod6: I don't care how it's financed
maximian: If you didn't know the origin of the transactions, what would you say?
mod6: ok. i don't care if he starts his own client.
mod6: this is like his own fork isn't it?
BingoBongo: Rome isn't it? He's catholic his local stuff doesn't matter. I just wonder which of the BitBet pope bets are his.
mod6: (20:54) < jcpham> luke-jr if you don't stfu about SD i'm going to burn your church down
mircea_popescu: the thing is... unlike fiat that shit doesn't work here.
BingoBongo: The anti-SD crusade isn't going to kill bitcoin. The crusaders are more people who liberated their bitcoins by freeing them into S.Dice's arms. Probably... except for Luke.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why it didn't get more traction, should be a cult classic.
mircea_popescu: mpex ain't done for till i say
mircea_popescu: lol i don't think luke has the resources for something like this.
mod6: there was talk about raising min fee to .01 or something, but that doesn't give incentive to not use anything else gay like PP
Diablo-D3: bitcoin will just shove SD tx out because they don't pay fees
mod6: if they move up to 1Mb that buys them some time, but isn't any different then what the global central banks are doing
jcpham: if txns aren't going through that's a problem
jcpham: i don't care so much about SD
BitHub: i didn't care before till i had to start waiting hours and hours and hours for 1 confirm
BingoBongo: mircea_popescu it isn't that unlike James
mircea_popescu: you don't have to translate it
BingoBongo: My french isn't good enough to make an informed opinion on Diderot's
Diablo-D3: modern medicine refuses to accept the treatment because they can't charge obscene amounts of money for it
Namworld: They won't hit 10k...
BingoBongo: Thanks. Have you though about just storing a copy of the Trilema archive in the namecoin blockchain. I don't think they'd mind.
BingoBongo: I actually came on here today because i was wondering why I couldn't ready your classic on the housing crisis.
mircea_popescu: pity we don't have the rota anymoar.
smickles: thatwouldn't work afaik
BitHub: ahh man i really shouldn't use this thing when i first wake up
assbot: Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
mircea_popescu: because i tell you something, when they won't be able to take me down they'll harass you
mircea_popescu: tghen if you serve 500 pages in a day it's suddenly... we're only hosters if you don't get traffic.
jurov: you didn't understand me.. i can now vanish with all customers funds
jurov: so, phungus from bitvps blames me and he won't enable my vps access anymore
dub: I can't take credit its from the forum
jborkl: I don't think you are
dub: acording to arbor anyway, I don't recall noticing any of them
mircea_popescu: jcpham i think someone might have noticed that mpex didn't answer on 23
mircea_popescu: a. a lot of calls closed up past 24 hours. those don't count.
mjr__: hmm couldn't you conceivably use QoS to give http traffic priority on the router
Lyspooner: my sentiment is that the options aren't there right now
thestringpuller: SINCE YOU HAVEN'T FIXED MPEX
mjr__: hmmm, and since it is routers not boxes, proxies won't really help?
mircea_popescu: cdn doesn't do this. there are ddos protection services out there, but all have their own issues
mjr__: and CDN couldn't fix either?
mircea_popescu: as a relative rock bottom, if things can't be otherwise resolved within a couple of days i will have a vpn installed. this has the disadvantage that it puts the brokers in an iffy spot
mjr__: out of curiosity and i haven't really thought this all the way through
mircea_popescu: but to expand on the plan : as an absolute rock bottom if things can't be otherwise resolved within a week, i will publish a gmail address, and trade will work via email (you email your paste instead of putting into site, you get it back)
mircea_popescu: mjr__ right now you can't. what are you trying to do ?
dub: I don't need to tell you that the only people who checked it out are serious miners
gribble: burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 22 hours, and 30 seconds ago: <burnside> I don't think so.
mircea_popescu: and if you think people won't be buying asics at 1k a pop, let me tell you something :
mircea_popescu: it's just some people don't know how to account, and so the 5k "is free"
mircea_popescu: it won't stop working.
dub: right, so much like we won't have teh market you percieve as free for much longer, bitcoin will stop working
mircea_popescu: if they don't follow i'm going to start my own devteam and fork bitcoin.
assbot: Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
mircea_popescu: rather than the incorrect dev attitude of "so don't do that!"
dub: but there is a scaling problem due to SD, you can't argue against that
mjr__: i take it you don't like the Soft BP?
mjr__: i don't think they are stupid necessarily
mircea_popescu: the problem is most of the people who think they're devs for no reason aren;t out yet.
mircea_popescu: the network works fine with sd. what it doesn't work fine with is the appalingly poor quality of coding
mircea_popescu: "the poor aren't voting to steal from the rich because they've not been sufficiently explaining the benefits of theft"
dub: the majority don't agree
mjr_: because if the majority agree...they do it, if they don't, you were wrong
mjr_: that is the point, if what you think "should" happen, then if it really should, it will...if it shouldn't it won't
mjr_: for anyone to say that the people who came up with this system didn't get what they want is retarded
mjr_: it hasn't worked for them AT ALL
mjr_: no you don't
mjr_: dub: i feel that what they are saying is that "the blockchain shouldn't be used for individual grains of rice, so no rice for anyone"
mircea_popescu: but im motherfucking excluding it. it doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: mjr_ the protocol doesn't exclude it
mjr_: mircea: to be fair, i don't think that the protocol EXCLUDES the use of a layer on top of it that could replicate "accounts"...
mircea_popescu: obviously it didn't sink in what bitcoin is.
mircea_popescu: i don't think they understand a lot of things tbh
mjr_: its like they don't understand what "free market" means
deadweasel: i probably wouldn't care either.
deadweasel: i don't know how to do it.
mircea_popescu: proving that mpex can't be effectually attacked is part of the game
nanotube: you don't have to pay
nanotube: and if you use gribble/supy as base, it by default limits number of commands per user per time, so they can't even flood it out.
nanotube: mircea_popescu: should be pretty trivial to set up an irc bot that just takes user input and passes it along to your server. if you set it up with a cloak, attackers can't even know its ip.
mircea_popescu: wasn't exactly like that lol
jurov: can't get over it... namworld said "o mpex.coinbr.com has problems, prolly ddos" and he went to sleep
mircea_popescu: mod6 now that i don't know.
mircea_popescu: why didn't i think opf that
mircea_popescu: imsaguy yeah. last i talked to nanotube he was like "i don't want this in production handling opm"
mircea_popescu: (and i don't think they have enough to cope, but maybe)
mircea_popescu: imsaguy the problem is irc doesn't handle pgp so well
Luke-Jr: not anarchist lunatics who can't figure out the most obvious legal scenario
Luke-Jr: I don't care who it is, if they flood the network it's miners' job to filter them out
mircea_popescu: i can make 1mn txs right now, you won't be able to produce an accurate usercount.
mircea_popescu: 1M user with 1000 tx/sec is easier than 10 users with 1000 tx/sec <<< you can't even distinguish users apart.