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jurov: phf i did not even try llvm to eat it whole. first i wanted to try compile eulora into dynamic lib with gcc and link that one to interpreter
phf: jurov: mac os x build of eulora uses clang, there might be some insight in the patches. specifically i go the whole way of patching/making sure it works autoconf for crystal space, which might be necessary to move forward with any sort of linking issues, etc.
asciilifeform: well, for one thing, i'm not adding layers
asciilifeform: i can't help but wonder what my published work thus far (in re: therealbitcoin, v, etc.) looks like to mats. probably looks like entirely baseless lunacy, like an eiffel tower glued from tongue depressors
asciilifeform: as i do here.
assbot: Logged on 28-10-2015 00:25:20; mircea_popescu: the dispute is deeper than that. he just doesn't want to work towards fixing the current paradigm. which i guess is fine. you apparently do. imo this is also fine, that's why there's two of you, so you can be in two places at the same time.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-10-2015#1309539 << it is because i know what the 'fixes' actually lead to. ☝︎
asciilifeform: now i am not a 'famous & respected' type, so i'm not yet at the 'worth a car bomb' level. but i will confess that i am at the 'disconnected phones at places with no paper association with me ring and ask by name' level.
assbot: Logged on 28-10-2015 00:14:05; mats: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1309017 << disingenuous, because all agents of usg are entrusted with masterpwn key? mitigations do not raise the cost of exploitation, even for usg? because, last i checked, they use kits like everybody else in the game.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-10-2015#1309534 << do i misunderstand or is this the 'you are too small for them to spend a master key on' 'defence' ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: i have russinovich's 'windows internals' on my desk.
asciilifeform: mats, mircea_popescu: possibly both of you know this, but i am allergic to 'mitigations' largely on account of my profession.
mircea_popescu: the dispute is deeper than that. he just doesn't want to work towards fixing the current paradigm. which i guess is fine. you apparently do. imo this is also fine, that's why there's two of you, so you can be in two places at the same time. ☟︎
mats: look: i get the allergic response. your hyperbole dial is set to 10, however...
mats: i don't have your exhibitionist streak.
mats: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1309017 << disingenuous, because all agents of usg are entrusted with masterpwn key? mitigations do not raise the cost of exploitation, even for usg? because, last i checked, they use kits like everybody else in the game. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i wasn't.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 19:03:59; mircea_popescu: but i got an idea of a graphic novel, suddeenly : in this crapsack world in which the implementation of the "jews eating babies"/"white slavers" moral panic / fetish is actual farms to literally produce baby viande as per the modest proposal, it is discovered that ringworm infection of the abdomen in 2nd trimester females results in tastier, if very strangely diformed veal.
mircea_popescu: "Let's take all this at face value. Is he entitled? Delusional? I don't doubt for a moment he sincerely believes he is a lawyer, because lawyer for him isn't a profession or even a job, it's a label, a code word for a kind of intellectualism he wants for himself. As long as "all of my friends see me as..." it was well worth the cost. He didn't study to become an attorney, he bought a back-up identity." << exactly
mircea_popescu: i ocasionally encounter derps living the delusions of the foregoing, who i threaten and they go away.
mircea_popescu: i have yet to have met any argentine in any sort of position of power or relevancy of any kind whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: when i want to deal, i talk to old chinese women.
mircea_popescu: "Bank bailouts, company bailouts -- I don't know, we're the generation of bailouts," he says in a hallway during a break from his Peak Discovery job. "And like, this debt of mine is just sort of, it's a little illusory. I feel like at some point, I'll negotiate it away, or they won't collect it."
pete_dushenski: i want that ignonimy
mircea_popescu: "They understand I'm in a lot of debt, but I've done something they feel they could never do and the respect and admiration is important." [my edit: he isn't actually practicing law.]"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski this is where i go "had he spent the 350k on bitcoin in 2011, he'd have a little over 500k-1.5mn a year now"
mircea_popescu: "It's a prestige thing," he says. "I'm an attorney. All of my friends see me as a person they look up to."
mircea_popescu: He lives with his fiancee who is "unperturbed by his dizzying collection of i.o.u.'s." She doesn't want him to get a corporate law job because (take a sip first): "we like hanging out together." Carly, another unemployed law graduate explains, "I guess I kind of assumed that someone would hook me up with something." I'm sure she felt she deserved it."
pete_dushenski: imo the mental framework that a (canadian/uk) legal degree provides is that i) there are always loopholes to exploit, ii) you can debate anything, iii) don't ask a question unless you know the answer.
mircea_popescu: fucking hell. when i was that age i knew exactly where i could go. EVERYWHERE. and so did they.
mircea_popescu: et hired?" They think to themselves, "amn't I bright? Hard working? Fluent in legal theory?" And the employers respond, "how the hell would we know that?""
mircea_popescu: "And once they're in law school, there is more grade inflation and even retroactive adding of .333 to everybody's GPA. And now law school graduates are surprised to find they're unemployed. Law students had no real measure of their status as an applicant; no reliable descriptor of what kind of a school they went to (short of branding); and no reliable measure of their performance there. "What do you mean I can't g
mircea_popescu: g. "I think I belong in a top tier school..." How do you know? The analogy is you have no idea what kind of a man you are and thus what kind of a woman would be right for you, so you just harass the girls that other people think are the best. Then if you don't get her you're angry at the girl ("these bitches just want jocks and legacy applicants"); and if you get her you're surprised to find that three years with
trinque: pete_dushenski: as for the dust it churns through, I'm sure at some point I'll have it announce when the tank is low so that the gentlemen here can refill it
mircea_popescu: How do they do this? "Enron-type accounting standards..."says a law professor. "Every time I look at this data, I feel dirty."
trinque: as for investing in deedbot I don't see the angle
thestringpuller: i would invest in deedbot prolly
assbot: Logged on 14-10-2015 18:23:13; mircea_popescu: "I know they're billing it as a stand for women's rights, but that would be more convincing if they weren't also selling weapons to Saudi Arabia, hadn't shuttered 75 percent of the country's Status of Women offices, and weren't shrugging off the more than 1,200 Indigenous women who have been missing or murdered in Canada since 1980."
asciilifeform: i can't have been the only one who wondered 'how many other bug fixes is this fella sitting on without knowing about it'
asciilifeform: i confess that not learning about mircea_popescucoin's db locks fix until ~after~ therealbitcoinw wedged to death was not fun.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it'll go the way of the minuteman
mircea_popescu: in "stuff i'm reading now" news, http://trilema.com/2011/tigancusa-si-strainul/
asciilifeform: but i just checked the mailbox, there is no letter from sultan inviting me to move away.
asciilifeform: yes, i FUCKING HATE it
asciilifeform: at any rate, i personally live on planet public.
mircea_popescu: the rest - not only they can keep, i'd even pay them to keep.
mircea_popescu: the stable solution here is that the socialists get the crowd and wash their head with it, all i want is the well put together teenage sluts and the fewq and far between whose heads work.
mircea_popescu: i am not intending to "save" the mass from it's "opressive" government/landlords/what have you anymore than i intend to run around farms in rural england "freeing" the cows.
asciilifeform: but i can't help but agree with the general principle. 'public' is largely vermin. and if mircea_popescu decides to open a meatspace lubyanka and make an old-fashioned entirely nonpublic intelligence-gathering corps, he ought to wake us all up.
asciilifeform: i'd agree wholeheartedly with mircea_popescu on all of this, but presently i'm on the wrong side of a door.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think you've well seen what the results of public access to phuctor were.
mircea_popescu: it both perpetuates the jwz "i only want to" class and it creates the "i know nothing and have some oppinions" class of stolfi/swanson/etc.
asciilifeform: that was, as i understood at least, the intent of cryptome et al.
asciilifeform: (i'm still waiting for, e.g., ANYTHING from nsa crytologic directorate, etc.)
asciilifeform: i suppose.
trinque: whether that's good or bad is another question I think
trinque: actually I know two such chicks
trinque: I know this chick who ended up an IP lawyer because hell, the money said go there.
asciilifeform: i.e. being perfectly capable of 'following' dead people, on dead trees
asciilifeform: i think i'm missing a step here
asciilifeform: btw i went to school with these people.
trinque: I could hear the same shit from some stoner I know
mircea_popescu: and i gotta say i love the leverage, i take an hour to write one of these 5k word atrocities, it ruins the day/week of numerous people.
trinque: having reached the end of the latest ballas dissection, the thing has a familiar format I was a little surprised to see given the others from him I've read.
mircea_popescu: i dun believe this is what they wanted musl to be for.
mircea_popescu: well i only read the atlantic so it never happened.
mircea_popescu: not in the atlantic, i'd wager.
asciilifeform: tarver wrote about this, i recall
asciilifeform: they are laughing all the way to the bank, within half an hour's walk from where i stand
asciilifeform: ah i recall earlier attempts at this
asciilifeform: i thought that was stefanoupolis (?)
BingoBoingo: ^ ver-i-lol
mircea_popescu: i've been aware of this for a while, actually, slowly digesting it.
asciilifeform: i assume it is why mircea_popescu's ears stood up
mircea_popescu: i mean just reading that thing - the strictness of the logic is empowering.
mircea_popescu: the culture powering romania. i would bet this played a part in half or more lost virginities during decades.
mircea_popescu: ie, "i've seen you, you're to my liking, what's left to do ? i dare speak to you : i love you! if you've looked me in the eye and were struck, you're not wrong to tell me you love me."
mircea_popescu: anyway, dracunculiasis i mean, not ringworm.
asciilifeform: i distinctly remember a spiffy alien worm
mircea_popescu: but i got an idea of a graphic novel, suddeenly : in this crapsack world in which the implementation of the "jews eating babies"/"white slavers" moral panic / fetish is actual farms to literally produce baby viande as per the modest proposal, it is discovered that ringworm infection of the abdomen in 2nd trimester females results in tastier, if very strangely diformed veal. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why, it's rather obvious.
phf: ben_vulpes: i've seen fmt like tricks used all over the place to do for example date formatting, e.g. (year #\- month #\- day), but the previous sexp is compiled to either format or directly to princ's. unless your domain is text formatting, it makes little sense to have an intermediate form.
asciilifeform: 2nd page looks like dot-matrix. looks quite like some of the 20 y.o. printouts i have lying around.
asciilifeform: (i guess it isn't really an anglicism, but a latinism)
phf: ben_vulpes: i don't think fmt is a horrible idea, but it (and similar packages like iterate) would've been great if they were part of the standard. as it stands they get you some elegance at the expense of being an idiosyncratic external dependency. you still have to learn format and loop, but once you do, you start thinking twice about replacing them with something marginally better.
asciilifeform: i, for instance, can almost pass for a normal human being in public
mircea_popescu: until i beat the shit of her every time she didn't do math properly ?
trinque: probably every other time I go spelunking for information on lisp machines
asciilifeform: trinque: trick is that i don't do it in real time and with meat
trinque: asciilifeform: I run into places you've interfaced with strangers all over the net.
asciilifeform: i'm most of the way there, personally.
mircea_popescu: i find it very dubious, just between you and me
mircea_popescu: "i have decided that only the upper third of the mandelbrot set is of interest. WHY DOES THE REST KEEP RECURRING WE HAD AN AGREEMENT!!1"
asciilifeform: i've nothing against the hindbrain per se. but it is not the mind. why not call arse and elbow same word also, if we do this ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: now i must know, why chaikovsky specifically
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 17:05:03; mircea_popescu: i happen to not think anything of the mathematician that doesn't know how his fridge works. "oh he's specialised" fuck you. "but this is how we do it here!" yeah, this is how i do you in the ass.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:44:58; mircea_popescu: but i must say, splendid alf monograph, should be in an article.
asciilifeform: guess what, i don't give a ~flying fuck~ about 'it's more seek000re except against the folks with the master keys'
thestringpuller: i was more referring to how people say memes in real life, i.e: "not bad dot jpeg"; the reddit eternal september is like an infection