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mircea_popescu: over 10% can't read at all today.
midnightmagic: Considering 7.7% *couldn't read AT ALL* in 1910?
mircea_popescu: i think that's what they hoped it to be, but it didn't work out.
mircea_popescu: presume you don't understand what's being said because of the other person once, get shown better, stop making the assumption. at least for a wittle while.
midnightmagic: Pretend you are my better then. I'm confident you don't grow out of that no matter how true or untrue it may be.
mircea_popescu: hm, if you won't think the question too much proof of my many and varied shortcomings,
mircea_popescu: perhaps human notions of morality and ethics aren't quite as developed as all that.
midnightmagic: I literally don't have an answer for your contrived example.
midnightmagic: I don't feel so.
smickles: jurov: phantomcircuit nailed the second issue, my server wasn't providing enough of the cert chain, browsers just dl the missing parts, java needs the whole thing spoon-fed to it
smickles: mircea_popescu: don't love AJ, it's a sin
smickles: their java install doesn't seem to think my cert is a good cert
smickles: hmm, i'm going to have to send a new csr to those guys now, arn't i
jurov: smickles, you don't have passphrase set on key?
smickles: unfortunately, i don't think i have the right kind of mind for that solution
smickles: and i can't find any useful error in the logs
mircea_popescu: parseval software firewalls weren't even being touched, routers got it.
dub: jurov: not to be rude, and this is why I still use linode, you can't expect any $20 vps to handle anything critical
jurov: but couldn't get any good advice except to pay heavy $$$
jurov: well, but if you don't want to host anything critical, where does this leave you?
mircea_popescu: anyway. it doesn't look like there's much more anyone could have done practically.
jurov: okay, it was the server then, not the dc. and yes, i shouldn't have expected any thing else
mircea_popescu: yeah i guess communications didn't work.
mircea_popescu: so practically a vps host can't do much more than "sorry, we can't host you, you're too big".
Namworld: Oh, We don't have the infrastructure to handle any large DoS tho, we're relatively a very small host. Not the kind that was being conducted against MPEx. Not sure what you would ahve wanted us to do.
Namworld: What's that about? We don't bill extra traffic, we'd ask the person to upgrade. In your case tho, would have been impossible to support you further. We'd have to drop DDoSed clients
jurov: Namworld: what? you don't know what to do in this case?
jurov: now you probably aren't aware this happened but damn well it did. in this very channel.
Namworld: Doesn't seem like the let go was handled properly at all.
Namworld: I wasn't aware of anything
mircea_popescu: well in fairness vps wasn't going to be able to take it.
kakobrekla: "we won't ever turn your vps again."
Namworld: yes so he doesn't receive invoices anymore
Namworld: I hope he wasn't as harsh as that short sentence makes it sound.
jurov: Namworld, phungus clearly said "we won't ever turn your vps again."
Namworld: Why didn't you put a cancellation request jurov?
mircea_popescu: what do you do when they "don't endorse" your site ?
jurov: startssl prolly says they don't endorse fecal humor
jurov: smickles, startssl? can't get much better than that
mircea_popescu: why do you think i don't ?
smickles: mircea_popescu: i thought you just didn't use ssl, so how would you know?
smickles: anyone know of a good free ssl cert issuer who isn't just mining me for information?
TomServo: I don't understand how the price is holding given the uncertainty surrounding the bug.
smickles: ug, why can't i tell this thing to use my self signed cert ?
mircea_popescu: "So please, lets just admit we aren't up to spec and have never been up to spec, and focus on getting there instead of pretending that "the world is after all perfect, if requiring a little adjustment" is a bastion of software engineering."
smickles: hmm, there hasn't been an order reported from gox in a while
jcpham: dub isn't being descriptive enough
mircea_popescu: dub wait, libertard is someone who believes in global warming and shit about how you shouldn't say nigger, right ?
deadweasel: yeah, simple rules don't fix things for idiots.
deadweasel: Clearly they didn't like atheism.
mircea_popescu: dub i don't see why it would be related.
mircea_popescu: well... you wouldn't know cause you don't read russian, but it's not new.
mircea_popescu: obviously this isn't a vestable attribute, like "being tall"
smickles: I haven't put thought into how that would work yet
BingoBongo: If it isn't NVC and trades on Btc-e it trades on Vircurex with greater market making opportunities
BingoBongo: What they ship I don't know
BingoBongo: If this channel wan't logged
BingoBongo: Isn't Avalon still struggling to get a fraction of the first batch out/
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the bet reads that support will be published. nonsuport being published isn't related is it.
BingoBongo: The problem isn't faster the problem is scalability. SatoshiDice for all I defended it against, with BDB's locking bahavior killed BDB as a bitcoin dependency
BingoBongo: BDB just doesn't play nicely with other databases.
mircea_popescu: i don't grok the hate. what's the big deal ?
BingoBongo: Really they need to kill BDB with fire. There is no other way. Gavin doesn't have a way to maintain BDB compatibility in LevelDB.
mircea_popescu: maybe you shouldn't operate a prediction market :p
mircea_popescu: if you don't hedge you'll go bankrupt.
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo if you hedge you won't need much.
BingoBongo: Maybe I'm reading wrong which wouldn't be the first time, but it seems like a fair way to separate idiots from their coin.
benkay: devs don't have a vision
benkay: don't worry
mircea_popescu: basically i can't shake this tom green image from my head.
mircea_popescu: i didn't even notice, what's she got ?
mircea_popescu: it obviously couldn't go on.
benkay: and how does that manifest as a significant pain point? i haven't noticed a significant lag between when people post orders and when the pastebin goes up
dub: my buddy has a good excuse 'I don't eat anything that has to shit'
dub: even type-o's can't process that shit properly
dub: I want to say australia but I can't remember
assbot: I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
mircea_popescu: but tht didn't make much money
BitHub: and the west offers shitty products you don't need?
BitHub: every good 90's action hollywood film wouldn't exists if they didn't rip off HK cinema
BitHub: isn't that what Hollywood did to John WOO?
mircea_popescu: things don't work that way, you don't get to define what value is.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying mpex doesn't add value because css.
BitHub: don't hate
BitHub: west isn't even using m-wallets or m-commerce yet
mircea_popescu: fact is, the us has zero worldwide brands in the sense that china has baidu and doesn't care about google.
mircea_popescu: if it settles in bitcoin it doesn't even matter if the world uses zimbabwe dollars.
BitHub: some of these guys aren't qualified?
mircea_popescu: is ample proof this wasn't even seriously considered, let alone settled.
mircea_popescu: back in 2007 it became obvious the us is sinking. didn't want to be on that part of the world. had to go somewhere.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, some people don't like me. they run things into the ground.
jurov: in fact i didn't list anything new on bitfunder for some time
Luke-Jr: midnightmagic: I don't see it as something worth my time arguing a case for.
midnightmagic: Luke-Jr: I dunno why he started ranting about you. But he gets upset when I don't address each of his points individually.
midnightmagic: Luke-Jr: I also proffered the possibility you didn't want your name up there on purpose, to outline our collective ignorance.
jurov: Luke-Jr: don't sweat, me too, he sounds serious but in the end it's all just hypothetical
midnightmagic: Luke-Jr: I was just asserting that the amount of work you do in bitcoind essentially makes you a bitcoin developer, even if your name isn't on bitcoin.org.
Luke-Jr: midnightmagic: I didn't understand the context :P
midnightmagic: Gah.. dude.. your weird sayings aren't translating so well.
mircea_popescu: and on a related point, you don't go to heaven by never saying "jesus sucks" etiher.