asciilifeform: made gBe. dead '09.

asciilifeform: 'alteon'

asciilifeform: ooooh found another corpse

asciilifeform: and all 3 owned by His Reptilian Majesty.

asciilifeform: when actual number, not counting the fed, is 3.

asciilifeform: ask a street schmuck and he will say 'there are hundreds'

asciilifeform: situation re gbE nics is quite reminiscent of american consumer banks.

asciilifeform: (fabless. i have nfi where their chip was physically made.)

asciilifeform: who were another gBe maker, bought by crapple and annihilated in '08.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: earlier i think you were thinking of 'pa semi'

asciilifeform: this last detail i hope is not news to anyone.

asciilifeform: all dma-enabled (because pc arch doesn't actually offer any other way to move Gb/sec)

asciilifeform: sitting in ~every large server of whatever consequence.

asciilifeform: sooooo, three, three, three nicmusketeeers, all muppets of guess who.

asciilifeform: 'BroodMinder: Smart, Affordable Telemetry for Beekeeping' << lolk.

asciilifeform: phf: almost certainly taiwan

asciilifeform: who makes its line physically - i do not know.

asciilifeform: silicon labs is a ~fabless~ american co.

asciilifeform: i will add, for completeness, that 'silicon labs' and 'texas instruments' offer gbE controllers, but only as chip - not, afaik, packaged on pci/pcie by anyone.

asciilifeform: anyway, log readerz, if i missed anybody - please write in.

asciilifeform: luxury.

asciilifeform: ah 'tehuti' is obscure because 10G.

asciilifeform: has numerous advantages, and i run own humble household on it. but q was re moderns.

asciilifeform: i know where to find it.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was specifically NOT asking after junkyard iron.

asciilifeform: which ~nobody ever heard of.

asciilifeform: 'tehuti'

asciilifeform: apparently there is a 4th co

asciilifeform: April 12, 2010 'PALO ALTO, Calif. -- HP today announced it has completed its acquisition of 3Com Corporation at a price of $7.90 per share in cash or an enterprise value of approximately $2.7 billion.'

asciilifeform: http://www8.hp.com/us/en/hp-news/press-release.html?id=342187#.V-Mul2QrL5s

asciilifeform: nfi where

asciilifeform: !!google 3com

asciilifeform: it was bought by hp in, iirc, 2010.

asciilifeform: also wtf mircea_popescu , 3com's been dead for eons

asciilifeform: (the other thing realtek is famous for is... having very peculiar definition of 'working chip', see e.g., https://archive.is/uvOwZ )

asciilifeform: i've been trying and failing to locate an in-production gbE card with something other than these 3 on it, and failed.

asciilifeform: dun look like they even bothered with 'filing off'

asciilifeform: the last 2 are wholly-owned usg thralls, while realtek is taiwanese and famous for, e.g., 'losing' signing certs later used in stuxnet, etc.

asciilifeform: realtek, broadcom, intel.

asciilifeform: there are 3 makers of gbE nics you can buy as cards (vs mobo southbridge integrated, or SOC a la pogo)

asciilifeform: this leaves me exactly where i was when i did this survey last year, and the year before, and...

asciilifeform: they use realtek lock stock and barrel.

asciilifeform: pericom only makes the pci bridge in these

asciilifeform: or hah, no

asciilifeform: (see photo close-up)

asciilifeform: with realtek PHYs. e.g., http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166096

asciilifeform: ^ is who.

asciilifeform: https://www.pericom.com

asciilifeform: possibly.

asciilifeform: they're a 'whitelabel'

asciilifeform: i meant, what is physically on the rosewill board.

asciilifeform: gotta find out who does...

asciilifeform: i dun think they make the chipset

asciilifeform: again no usb plox, they are rubbish.

asciilifeform: (excruciating bottleneck)

asciilifeform: but they are ~worthless for serious use

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a number of them

asciilifeform: same seems to be true of nvidia (only available in their southbridge ??)

asciilifeform: though if anyone turns one up, please link.

asciilifeform: killed does not appear to feature on a standalone board either

asciilifeform: afaik no standalones.

asciilifeform: marvell makes the pogo system-on-chip

asciilifeform: phf: afaik qualcomm doesn't make WIRED nics

asciilifeform: plox

asciilifeform: gigabit only

asciilifeform: pci/pcie/minipci.

asciilifeform: and places where it can be had.

asciilifeform: names plox

asciilifeform: who

asciilifeform: (usb dongles not counting)

asciilifeform: does anyone know of a remaining maker of nic chipsets other than intel, broadcom, and realtek ?

asciilifeform: unrelatedly,

asciilifeform: otherwise goes to where the other junk furniture goes.

asciilifeform: if chair wants to be spoken for, it has to find a sitter and make him happy.

asciilifeform: it must've been on trilema.

asciilifeform: hm.

asciilifeform: !#s no rights for wights

asciilifeform: which was precisely it

asciilifeform: 'magna carta'

asciilifeform: the idiot english celebrate what, remember

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: plenty took 'brainwallet' to the gallows.

asciilifeform: vaguely on subject - it is commonly supposed by n00bz that 'launch codes'-style absolute-yet-titleless property holding is a new, bitcoiny thing. but it is nothing of the kind, pirates did it.

asciilifeform: and sure, 'army and navy' is not a complete picture, it is possible to disagree a la hassan i sabbah, or mircea_popescu .

asciilifeform: if you convert the army and navy - let someone disagree

asciilifeform: and if joe can disconnect doe's buttons, they are joe's, not doe's.

asciilifeform: loonybin napoleons hold 0 thrones.

asciilifeform: i.e. the buttons are connected.

asciilifeform: word 'hold' ~means~ something.

asciilifeform: noshit.jpg

asciilifeform: it is probably here in the house somewhere.

asciilifeform: terrible ocr

asciilifeform: https://archive.org/details/baronandfemeatr00unkngoog << subj ?

asciilifeform: (the latter is ~mostly intact)

asciilifeform: ditto flibusta, until same

asciilifeform: gotta know the current mirror, they change what now, weekly?

asciilifeform: !#s great slow kings

asciilifeform: obligatory:

asciilifeform: dripping on one another, or similar.

asciilifeform: either that or made of gurlz