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asciilifeform: ( forever, that is, not for individual user, but for the sequence of n00bz )
asciilifeform: mod6: i dun particularly disagree with any of this, but the pov that 'vetting ffa' is a 1time thing, that can be done and then 'is done', imho is mistake : each user must read it ~himself~.
mod6: This year. Very excited & positive about that.
mod6: I'd like to see the Republic continue to expand the number of trb nodes we have available this year. There are activities currently afoot that immensly support that. Getting FFA vetted and used as a base lib really will help get the ball rolling for any proposed trbi.
mircea_popescu: yeah me too!
mod6: I'm so excited right now tbh.
mod6: we'll get there.
mod6: you pull in the things you want, from the people you trust.
mod6: you read the code.
mod6: asciilifeform: by that i mean, 'you should choose your own adventure' -- each man pulls in the vpatches he desires.
mod6: However, until n00bs get into the fold with what 'V' is, they kinda need just 1 stable thing to build with a 1-button-push. Which means folding things in slowly.
asciilifeform: i dun see how 'anti' . a release is simply a type of vpress.
mod6: Yeah, i agree, that 'releases' is kinda anti-V.
mod6: Some of this is my fault, I've been trying to keep up here. Getting kinda swampped with a bunch of things at once. But! These are all good things. FFA, eucrypt, ada, vtron stuff, et. al.
asciilifeform: mod6: currently, and quite fortunately, there ~is~ a foundation, with releases .
asciilifeform: mod6: this was in response to a hypothetical 'but why do we even need releases' , not re current trb www
mod6: <+asciilifeform> n00b wants to run trb. which trb will he run ? << n00b runs what is available at thebitcoin.foundation -- there are some recent vpatches that will become mainline once I can get all of the things vetted more closely.
mod6: It's only as useful, as long as it's useful kinda thing.
mod6: I think it's good that we're able to adjust to anything if need be. Tis' all.
mircea_popescu: throw darts at ben_vulpes end up tackled by mod6 ; what is this, like teamwork ?
mircea_popescu: jesus what a juggernaut this guy is. YO! that's not the sentiment.
mod6: but if there is the sentiment that it's not needed, then we should have that talk.
mod6: nothing personal. i feel like the foundation is a good thing ; maintaining all of the things re: trb.
mircea_popescu: mod6 dun take it personal ; for one thing i'm hussling him not you.
mircea_popescu: the issue is not "what is basic", but "you are too harsh" / "am not"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 19:15 trinque: what is the foundation's role then?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776346 << i suspect his idea is "ideally, nothing". in any case foundation has not managed to keep up with the rest of the pie despite periodic prodding. << hmm. well whatever it is we do, I spend a lot of time doing it. happy to shut it down if it's not needed any more. ☝︎
asciilifeform: dunno that there is any straight way to settle 'what is basic' . but rough measures of most-famous-products at company one supposedly worked at, is not imho 'cruel & unusual' puzzle
mircea_popescu: there's no argument as to that.
mircea_popescu: how would we settle this dispute ?
mircea_popescu: you are too harsh, alfie.
NoSatoshisHear: Also, 2004 was 64 bit 586 days, so before my time.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not that
ben_vulpes: it was right on time if you look at when he got voice
mircea_popescu: i don't think the fellow took your meaning.
asciilifeform: that didn't take long.
asciilifeform: trinque start the clock whydontcha
NoSatoshisHear: well per loper, I may have missed it, but I don't think that was covered in 1-8.
asciilifeform: or , how about , NoSatoshisHear , you worked at intel yes ? in what chemistry was the i386 fabbed ? and roughly how many transistors on the die , to the nearest hundred thousand ?
asciilifeform: hey NoSatoshisHear -- you say you read the ffa series ? in what order of complexity does modular exponentiation run ?
trinque: oh, do we get an upvote then?
NoSatoshisHear: Just find the pseudo named people to be fun, and I am looking for fun. That and code fun. You have provided both.
trinque: NoSatoshisHear: plenty of folks here with their actual names.
mircea_popescu: eh, they've no fucking idea. but anyway.
NoSatoshisHear: John Does down the stack... Pseudonymity is the way to go, don't hide, drown in excess data... Lol, go for it Palantir
mircea_popescu: guy exists so google can pretend to misunderstand which mircea popescu people are looking for.
NoSatoshisHear: There is a Romanian named Mircea Popescu that is registered with the IEEE... You are not him, correct? https://ias.ieee.org/images/files/CMD/2014/mircea%20popescu.pdf
mircea_popescu: oh lol. they summoned up an imperial-flavoured alt-mp. has ~nothing to do with anything, and no other claim to fame besides "hey, we can pretend THIS is relevant".
NoSatoshisHear: So, come on, how many BC do you really have? Not like you could ever answer, but you are really not Satoshi, and really are the Romanian guy I looked up under IEEE?
NoSatoshisHear: Damn, I so want to tether, but I have morals unfortunately.
NoSatoshisHear: Would be even better if "hacked" in the end?
NoSatoshisHear: shitcoin nonsense combined with the current addicted gamblers might be a fun public spectacle.
mircea_popescu: yes, but a perfectly dumb item is as respectable as the perfect woman.
NoSatoshisHear: centralized system, so one server counts the ticks, it would simply be a demo of reddit "the button" style idiocy combined with gambling. Sounds viral, like the 1918 flu. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's no intrinsic reason to close the auction ; if you solve this you may have something.
mircea_popescu: honestly your coin idea isn't even bad, in theory. in practice it has a fundamental flaw. you see, bitcoin acts AS A CLOCK. this is its principal function. your thing has no clock.
NoSatoshisHear: sorry, text talk, plus not editing my own shite leads to unclear communications. I know better, english professor grandma taught me proper diction, though I am lazy.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 22:43 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776346 << i suspect his idea is "ideally, nothing". in any case foundation has not managed to keep up with the rest of the pie despite periodic prodding.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776478 << in the "journal of negative results", china thing went ~nowhere, i had some 6-7 notional meatsacks try to use irc, one managed to reg a key and then fell off the map; now waiting for bisp to come online to host on republican terms ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hanbot hey, make a mp-wp install for the young'un ? i've a mind to publicly expose her.
NoSatoshisHear: and almost a dollar auction, auctioneer gets nothing, puts up the initial $100, gets lot of lulz if the crowd ever starts trying to win on the money rake game. Demos of economics are just plain w00ty tooty fun times.
NoSatoshisHear: for MP, all 1% great stuff, and 99% personal wanglings. means 1% tech talk, love it, and 99% porn posts, personal shite, etc. Love it all.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 21:19 NoSatoshisHear: so, I may make a fun shitcoin for lulz. I like the hellcoin idea. The block gets awarded to the last 10 suckers^h^h^h^h^h miners that put a "realcoin" into the chain. We start at $100 and let people "mine" with coins, last 10 when the timer ticks down get the block.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 21:16 NoSatoshisHear: Read the all, love to read. Trilema leads out to all of you guys stuff, all 1% great stuff, and 99% personal wanglings.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776441 << i'm unsure what this means. what does this mean ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776422 << for the obvious reason, became obvious ship is slowly sinking and rudderless in any case, time to move on. eh! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 21:07 NoSatoshisHear: ex game engineer, ex intel architect, now too old to get hired. life summary.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776414 << not bad ; you're probably not too old to be useful for minigame, you know. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: what can you do ? she's not setting up any bouncers as a three day old.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 21:38 trinque: caaddr: your connection through tor is going to end up irritating folks if the join/part gets too noisy.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776472 << and as to this, as you might've noticed, moving to mirc from freenode webirc hasn't helped all that much. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 19:15 asciilifeform: n00b wants to run trb. which trb will he run ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776348 << this is a much deeper problem anyway. emmylark chick is like "do you have a preference" re windows irc clients. i don't, i don't run windows. "what should i run ?" "err... we'll talk of this later, slut". which is fine, she's used to "you're too dumb to be told this story yet", EXCEPT in this case it's not her that's too dumb. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 19:15 trinque: what is the foundation's role then?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776346 << i suspect his idea is "ideally, nothing". in any case foundation has not managed to keep up with the rest of the pie despite periodic prodding. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: lobbes sadly thaty book is not availablew in my country ;/ i wonder if you could buy it for me and ship it!!1
lobbes: In other heathendom lulz, local conservative radio stations in my area have begun airing ads: "Bobface from Alabama made $7 million cashing out on 'crypto stocks'. You can too! Buy this b00k to learn what you need to know to get in on it"
trinque: isn't doing a thing for you other than whatever virtue signaling with the hackerkids
trinque: !#s tor
trinque: caaddr: your connection through tor is going to end up irritating folks if the join/part gets too noisy. ☟︎
NoSatoshisHear: W00t! learned a lot from TRB, so thx to all of you maintainers! Will not make a V prolly though. Still learning lightning, now with "onion routing". HODL on, and buy my tethers plz.
NoSatoshisHear: so, will be back later with a verifiable ID instead of this anon lunacy, thx for the lulz and info in the meantime.
NoSatoshisHear: I worked on digital coin in 2001, but tried to find a non-net solution, and finally just gave up. When you head the wrong way, you don't get there. Still feel stupid for not buying in at $5, but I had no interest in Silk Road. ☟︎
NoSatoshisHear: still wonder if I mean Satoshi at one of the parties with Tim May and James A Donald and some of the other early coiners. I was surprised to find peeps I hung with in SF...
NoSatoshisHear: yes, will do a real ID, just flaming some crap right now. I have my main server back for repairs, so when it comes home I will do the do.
NoSatoshisHear: it would not be a coin, but a gambling experiment. Either no one would play, or lots would and the game could never end.
asciilifeform: NoSatoshisHear: do consider to reg with deedbot.
NoSatoshisHear: try and even get the hdmi spec, I'm still looking for a "dumped" version. Love the ethernet spec they built in...
asciilifeform: sounds like a rather tedious fiatola casino
NoSatoshisHear: You start with $100 in the pool, the "miners" contribute any amount of BC or other "valid" coin to bid. It goes in the pool, and the timer resets. If it times out, the last 10 get the block award.
asciilifeform: like the hdmi people did
asciilifeform: NoSatoshisHear: keys leaking also not so exciting, they can simply swap out the key in next chip rev
asciilifeform: or for that matter to 'start at $100'
NoSatoshisHear: 30 minute timout shite, though I did see the key may have leaked and someone had an uploader.
asciilifeform: what's it mean to 'put a realcoin into the chain'
asciilifeform: which is why i do not see the various diy attempts to disable the particular ME, as interesting in any way
NoSatoshisHear: so, I may make a fun shitcoin for lulz. I like the hellcoin idea. The block gets awarded to the last 10 suckers^h^h^h^h^h miners that put a "realcoin" into the chain. We start at $100 and let people "mine" with coins, last 10 when the timer ticks down get the block. ☟︎
asciilifeform: imho the interesting aspect of the intel fritzchip is not that it is there, but that an unknown and unknowable number of items with equivalent functionality also there.
NoSatoshisHear: what are my three premises? sounded like a binary joke extended. ETLA's
NoSatoshisHear: Read the all, love to read. Trilema leads out to all of you guys stuff, all 1% great stuff, and 99% personal wanglings. ☟︎