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mod6: fwiw, if you're comfortable with py, and you're on a learning quest,
then start with alf's
ben_vulpes: it is a matter of
taste. would you rather read python or perl?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform's elaborates
the fundamentals, mod6 has polished his
to handle a bunch of edge cases.
douchebag: V implementation
to use so
that I understand how everything is working
together
douchebag: Forsure, is
there one you suggest me starting with?
ben_vulpes: douchebag: press a
trb with non-"release" patches so's you understand usage, ideally sync
the binary if you can afford
the hardware.
then, write your own v,
test it, and bring it back for review.
douchebag: I do not know what marching orders are at
this
time, I'm going
to have
to read more into it
to better understand
ben_vulpes: guidance and beatins can be hard
to distinguish at
twenty feet when kiddo's reaching for
the stove
trinque: I see guidance, not beating, no harm
there
douchebag: Well,
the web application would just be for viewing purposes,
the PGP operations will still be done via command line. I am quite comfortable writing web apps using Python's Flask web framework
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: let
the kid speak for himself, eh?
ben_vulpes: still curious in re what
this hypothetical webapp would do
ben_vulpes: douchebag: mod6 has a point, consider pressing a
trb and syncing it douchebag
ben_vulpes: douchebag: howabout you
tell me what
this "it's own web application" is going
to do
shinohai: I'm genuinely curious
to see gpg operations performed in a web app.
ben_vulpes: douchebag: surely you're not
thinking of something
that would eat a mess of patches and sigs and vomit forth a press, are you?
douchebag: I'll write something up and let one of you
take a look at it when I'm finished.
ben_vulpes: douchebag: so demonstrate it, yeah?
talk is cheap.
shinohai: No, not incurable, but simply needs
to do
time in
the logs, etc.
to cure
the aforementioned head cockroaches.
douchebag: I would like
to clarify with someone
that I properly understand everything required
to create a V implementation.
☟︎ shinohai: Could have used skills
to hack CoinCheck, been 530M usd richer
trinque: just,
the dickpulling can now go.
trinque ftr
thinks it's nice
to see someone
that shows up and wants
to do *anything* aside pull his dick
lobbes: douchebag, -as you read more-
the "how can I best use my skillset" will become obvious
to you
trinque: several folks
told douchebag here
to do various somethings
lobbes: douchebag: while you are intelligent, and may have succeeded in sending mp
to meditation room, realize
that continued existence in
this forum is predicated on you doing something useful for
the Republic. Understanding -what- is useful will require (as
trinque has been patiently explaining) "moar ready, less
talky".
douchebag: Well, I'm just
trying
to figure out where my skillset could be best put
to use, I would be more
than capable of writing a V implementation or setting up an IRC bot. I'm
trying
to leave it
to you guys
to
tell me where my skillset could best be put
to use
☟︎ trinque: douchebag: skipped right over
the reading *again* did you
douchebag: "V. You could learn how
to program correctly, such as for instance by writing your own Vvi implementation, or by standing up an irc botvii, or by following
the excellent manuals produced by
the Lordshipviii. Bear in mind
that it is deemed unethical within
the Republic
to write code if you haven't actually learned how
to write it first, and
that orcs' claims
to have
taught you something often
turn out
douchebag: Well, I'm not
the best programmer out
there however I always make damn sure
the code I do write is secure as it can be
douchebag: Eh, perhaps. It's mainly just a hobby of mine, and I'm constantly learning from it and it pays
the bills for now.
trinque: nobody is inviting you
to "be in
the republic in your own way"
trinque: douchebag: your "write-only" mode grows
tiresome
douchebag: Everyone else I know is working some shitty job, not getting a decent amount of experience, and
they're just kind of stuck in
the same place. Meanwhile, I'm just entertaining myself with
the challenge of hacking
these companies
douchebag: Not really, I know
that by responsibly disclosing vulnerabilites
to companies I am building a pretty awesome resume which will benefit me later in life
BingoBoingo: douchebag: I mean in
the physical sense. You know...
the old fashioned kind of flip and coin. Or flip and
tire.
douchebag: Considering I looked at one of my wallets and $50
transactions are now worth roughly $20,0000
trinque gives
this "pls
to mirror back
to me
that am doing smart
things smartly" hours
to live
douchebag: Not really
too much, I've held onto coin and made a bit here and
there.
Typically I end up selling it right away so
that I can get my cash in hand and not have
to worry about waiting for
the price
to fluctuate. I know I should have held onto it
BingoBoingo: douchebag: Have you
tried flipping a coin? Or failing
that
tire flipping a bit?
phf: i've seen
the machinery work many
times,
though for some reason it reminded me of
the case where it misfired, in a famous bit by feynman where he was cracking safes at los alamos, security resolution and
the unexpected punchline is "don't let feynman near your safes"
mircea_popescu: phf
the actual
trick i use
to force a "no, go down obv branch" is by prepending a "you know" or whatever. but, sure.
mircea_popescu: (the
truth of
the matter is
that
the power of human speech comes from parsing and collapsing very lengthy and complex
trees ; one of
the rules is "obvious branch is dead", which means you practically never assume one's stating
the obvious, so you pick
the alternative)
phf: well, i didn't know if you were aware, and i can always fall back
to
the usual log "but
tis was for
the reader!"
mircea_popescu: phf ah, so it was just stating
the obvious for some reason ? i'm... aware
that's how it propagatges o.O
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 23:37 NoSatoshisHear: centralized system, so one server counts
the
ticks, it would simply be a demo of reddit "the button" style idiocy combined with gambling. Sounds viral, like
the 1918 flu.
phf: but,
the intent wasn't actually "of course x is bad", we've had conversation about
that elsewhere,
this was a pure cause/purpose "you're fat" situation:
that's literally how security
theater propagates!
douchebag: Alright, what do you guys suppose I do I've been
trying
to find vulns in Starbucks pretty much all night with very little success. Should I continue hitting
this bug bounty, or switch over
to Yahoo's program?
phf: yes,
totally unrelated, yeesh slow day.
mircea_popescu: the problem is
that illegitimacy crosses a definition boundry (it doesn't mean
the same
thing in boston wharf side and in african village) and so leaves us stranded.
mircea_popescu: phf no, no,
the structure of
the argument, "X propagates via r-selection" is not delivering on what i expect is
the intent ("of COURSE x is "bad" in
the sense of illegitimate).
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm perhaps failing
to find a point at which your analogy connects with
the situation. i read it as "don't know on
things
that seem
trivial"
mircea_popescu: !~google he's here, he's here, he's here have no fear, stay by his side an' he'll
take you for a ride...
mircea_popescu: and so : a homebreaker is a female
that delivers on
the "easy" part which "anyone could do" (sex) and not on
the hard part -- and
there's no quotes
there because how about YOU
try polishing an oaken
table
the size of a current usian garage each morning, plus rub
the iron pots.
phf: wake me when
there's a "too easy" on btcbase
mircea_popescu: so men who fuck men have an "unwarranted" social advantage, and consequently off with
their heads.
mircea_popescu: it's "unfair" (in
the exact sense of childhood playground) and
therefore "forbidden". because... obviously you can find a MALE partner
to work with ;
the question is
to get one of
the speaking cows
to do it.
mircea_popescu: you may not be aware, but
the ~original~ repression of faggotry has everything in common with
the original repression of jews, masons, etc : it was perceived by
the "normal" man
that
these "perverts" have it
TOO EASY.
phf: i don't know
the puritan arguments against sluts
mircea_popescu: phf is
this repackageable into a puritan argument against sluts ? if not, why not ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 17:12 mircea_popescu: not if it works
to deliver
the results above ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 16:15 mircea_popescu: in fairness, kid's got me meditating about
the nature of
things ever since last night. see,
the
trouble is : in his syustem, he has actually found a vulnerability, as a factual matter. in my system
this is entirely meaningless. why
the difference ?
mircea_popescu: the
true horse killing was in 50s, when ceausescu decided
to force agromecanization