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mircea_popescu: "By the end of April, the couple was completely broke, unemployed, and effectively exiled from a community they had given up everything to join. Jerad reached out to some of the other local voices in the movement, but found that most such activists were big on words, minimal on action, and did little more than post anti-government pictures and rants on the Internet."
trinque: could reinvent the makefile like "ebuild" or w/e, still a makefile
trinque: yep, would that not be a tree of v-patches on a tree of makefiles?
ascii_butugychag: but i was discussing a hypothetical v-tronic variant of 'portage'
ascii_butugychag: presently, 'make' only cares that a particular file name comes to exist
ascii_butugychag: you can think of this idea as a more fascist version of 'make'
trinque: yes, having a make target fail when a hash fails is a good idea
trinque: did it for downloads; trivial to do for a produced binary as well
trinque: ascii_butugychag: what did you think of my simply checking the hash at the end of a build target?
ascii_butugychag: because nobody has a deterministic builder
mod6: ah, to me that's what i took 'sigil' to mean, 'a seal'. I may misunderstand the language.
mircea_popescu: mod6 so then what's a seal ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 what'd be your definition/specificiation for the concept of sigil ? << by definition, for me its a cryptographic signature (embossment) of a given input.
ascii_butugychag: (e.g., you don't know EXACTLY bitwise what you want at a step)
mircea_popescu: so atm, as a working theory : the correct working of the nosuchdns script would be a) look in sigils directory and build list of sigils ; b) look in repository (where ?) for what's signed by the sigils ; c) create a sort -u list of the aformenentioned and dump it in hosts as > ratrher thjan >> ?
ascii_butugychag: but this is a good one.
ascii_butugychag: a sigil is a tuple of a seal & the thing-sealed.
mircea_popescu: so that people can correctly develop on top of a shared core
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 15:40:42; ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: iirc mod6 had a pretty good guide to v
mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1366390 << I do have a usage guide and quick-start guide... but maybe more of whats needed is not a reference manual, but an overall concept paper. ☝︎
ascii_butugychag: aha, only black fella i saw in b-a was a pilot
mircea_popescu: Ironically, the Sovereign movement is made up of highly paranoid people who tend to believe that every violent act in recent history is a “false flag” operation set in motion by the evil government, so the odds of such an event triggering a Revolution are quite slim."
mircea_popescu: "A few take it one step further by initiating violence in hopes of acting as a catalyst for this war. Timothy McVeigh’s goals, for example, weren’t just to murder 168 people, bring down a symbolic building, and punish the government for its role in the standoffs at Waco and Ruby Ridge. He wanted to make his mark in history by providing the Patriot movement with the spark that would light the fires of revolution.
mircea_popescu: "Million Mask March: Many younger sovereigns are fascinated with ideas of a youth revolution, anarchy, and hacktivism (a portmanteau of hack and activism,) even though the majority of them are not particularly computer savvy. They often call themselves Anonymous and wear the mask and costume of the central character in the movie V for Vendetta."
ascii_butugychag: enjoyed a good hour of this
ascii_butugychag: incidentally there was a ragged black fella preaching about 9/11 inside job
ascii_butugychag: aha i just got off a city train, likewise inherently statal, and advantageous
ascii_butugychag: i see names as necessarily a local (machine) matter.
ascii_butugychag: he probably also never drove a cart hitched to a pack of stray dogs
mircea_popescu: (incidentally - if anyone here remembers the ancient discussion re naming services, which is how qntra ended up with that name at least in part - this system would be a necessarily optimal solution to that problem. it'd guarantee you need the minimum possible stroke count to get your desired destination.
thestringpuller: ascii_butugychag ben_vulpes mod6 : is there a way to look at what data messages/control messages are going over the wire or force their invocation in trb? or would that functionality need to be patched in to print to log/accept command from some source?
PeterL: so point the updater using a file
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: can, but with a great deal of manual sweat
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: iirc mod6 had a pretty good guide to v ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 15:37:56; mircea_popescu: jurov im thinking more like a rotor script to build a local hosts out of, maybe, deedbotted things ?
mircea_popescu: but he has a point, mod6 and ascii_butugychag : we should prolly document v.
mircea_popescu: jurov concept from v, it keeps a sigil directory.
jurov: what's a sigil?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller the thing is, the meta-game is incredibly rich and very rewarding. usually the problem with making a game, as an enthusiast, is that fucking hell you know it so it's at best half as fun.
PeterL: BingoBoingo, My current lab is not set up to handle anything as dangerous as FOOF, would need a few kBTC to get something like that set up
thestringpuller: Eulora has deep gameplay, which creates emergent phenomenon which is by design. The real interesting thing is mircea_popescu has figured out how to do this without spending a million a dollars.
mircea_popescu: jurov im thinking more like a rotor script to build a local hosts out of, maybe, deedbotted things ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, the first accounts are from early june, so "nigh on a year" ain'\t really fair. half year.
mircea_popescu: eulora record is actually a guy with 13919282 connecterd time.
thestringpuller: as a side note, I know a player with 300 days of playtime on FFXI. Although it's been out since 2002-2003ish
thestringpuller: diminishing returns can get really dull after say 80 hours into a game with only 50 hours of story
mircea_popescu: not so far. ironically... if you go by a timeplay metric, december saw 64722 player-hours, which is seriously more than what MOST games see.
thestringpuller: but in essence eulora is more than a game, and more of a living world that people virtually inhabit
mircea_popescu: of course, no major player quit yet. that's usually a principal source of excess goods
mircea_popescu: considering it's been played for nigh on a year and people don't even know wtf those rules even are...
copypaste: i very much love the concept of a 3d game with a bitcoin economy. i've played a few, but all poorly done. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: one of the most encouraging things about eulora's economy that i see myself is - i keep a running total of player cash and of player assets. and the latter has been a monotonously increasing function ever since forever. the appetite for materials seems outright insatiable.
copypaste: i have a few PKGBUILDs in the AUR
copypaste: perhaps i could even make a PKGBUILD if i get it to work, if it pleases you guys
mircea_popescu: aha. there's a buncha people that can prolly halp if you get a specific error.
mircea_popescu: and spit out a usable binary within half an hour.
copypaste: i wish there were a statically compiled eulora without all these dependencies
mircea_popescu: in any case, http://www.deathandtaxes.com/?p=58 << shot a cop!
assbot: Gerald Davis is wrong. Here's why. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RGaxvt )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1366164 <<< if they do it right after a run of bootleg liquour, it also disinfects! ☝︎
jurov: as you can see i've woken up, still have a half a day to go
mircea_popescu: it also introduces a kinda dubious but possibly useful ddos protector, in the sense that one can run different ips for the meatriver and for the wotdns.
mircea_popescu: hey panzers... we actually game to doing this ? it really dun cost much and it does resolve an actual problem, provide a serious incentive to participate, makes nice media headlines... low hanging fruit.
mircea_popescu: and incidentally, how the dns was actually designed to be used. the current centralist windowstardian webstupidity only works the way it works because of the userbase. the design is fine, but "everyone"| and "has come to expect" and bullshit like that make people pretend like a suboptimal local maximum is relevant to the graph. well... it ain't.
mircea_popescu: in fact, v-powered /etc/hosts may even be a serious improvement over the current situation.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, a bitcoin vanity address with five specified letters (out of the whole set) takes a day.
assbot: Logged on 16-10-2015 13:23:33; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300279 << so a) you'll spend your life driving between bickering nuts. this is a worse deal than what psychs get, at least there you gotta drive to his office. ; b) the blockchain and everything else is entirely superfluous here. your entire idea is "hey, make me the mp of renting in south africa". maybe they will or maybe they won't but you really don'
mircea_popescu: naming is by its nature this : that there will be a group in power, allocating the names, and everyone else can go suck it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there is no other way to design a naming system.
adlai: someday somebody will care enough about this to cannibalize what's left of namecoin and build a proper Bitcoin DNS
mircea_popescu: heck, there was a bitcoin-based thing that kinda worked on that premise. namecoin.
mircea_popescu: but in point of fact you can run a dns server right now, and tell everyone to use it, and for everyone who does use it... your version of the ns will be visible.
copypaste: i would accept a WoT DNS
mircea_popescu: obviously EVERY naming system will work exactly like the dns, or like the wot works : either be at the table, or be a child looking for parents.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, if half a mil is " you can just forget about that right away." to you, then on what the fuck is your expectation to participate in the workings of society based ?!
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 06:40:37; copypaste: well BingoBoingo, i'd also recommend you read this in case you need a refresher on how DNS actually works http://www.kimmoa.se/The_rotten_and_corrupt_Domain_Name_System/
copypaste: do you have a comment on the kimmoa.se article? i think it's spot on but you definitely know all the details already
mircea_popescu: originally i registered the domain with namecheap ; originally namecheap was a great registrar. meanwhile they went to utter shit, the story is both on trilema an' in the logs.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1366096 << no, i moved it a few weeks ago. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i want domain names like i want a wide selection of hats.
mircea_popescu: anyway, judging by the [Ticket#2015121310000406] header it'd seem they sat on this for almost a month - from dec 13 to jan 9th. but whatevers, i was just looking for a pretext to throw the whole dns bullshit away anyway.
mircea_popescu: from what intel reports they had a cowboy period ~in2014 when they stole a bunch of domains, got slapped with some suits, lost a coupla worth their income for the decade and settled right the fuck down.
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 06:34:49; copypaste: mircea_popescu: i see you're having trouble with internet.bs - they seized a domain of mine without warning before, and only gave it back when i retained a lawyer in the Bahamas; the domain was 8chan.co
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 04:21:48; trinque: hitler doesn't want you to talk to nodes X Y Z, so he barfs up packets with a heathen commands.
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 19:17:09; shinohai: Books too, they had a hard-on for Umberto Eco for some reason, and I could never keep a copy of Foucault's Pendulum
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 06:21:12; BingoBoingo: Could simulate these changes with benzodiazepine dependence (which is why people who do the Keto thing recreationally start to feel sick when carbs are introduced, ketosis stops and they undergo a drug withdrawal)
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 03:54:17; mircea_popescu: but anyway. natural birth has a huge following in the states. almost unknown in yurp.
BingoBoingo: K, qntra's slow seems to have a touch of the DDoS. Going to sleep. Anyone who wants to write about Intel's Skylake already having a rowhammer exploit coded for its DDR4 controler feel free to sumbit a piece.
copypaste: BingoBoingo: now i never make assumptions about ownership. quite the opposite. if it's not backed by a private key i just assume i don't own it, less disappointment that way.
copypaste: it has a chance of bouncing back, in the same way that gavin's career has a chance of bouncing back
copypaste: honestly after this happened to me i went into a deep depression that took months to recover from; all of my perceptions of the internet were shattered. and as an aside that's why i no longer own 8chan
BingoBoingo: "@qntra we always recommend running your own nodes for security. To run with "altruism" as one's security plan is nothing but a fool's errand"
copypaste: BingoBoingo: we all know that the best DNS system is a GPG based one. private key trumps all nebulous ideas of "ownership" and "terms of service".
copypaste: and ICANN is a corrupt organization because it's USG affiliated
copypaste: well BingoBoingo, i'd also recommend you read this in case you need a refresher on how DNS actually works http://www.kimmoa.se/The_rotten_and_corrupt_Domain_Name_System/ ☟︎
copypaste: mircea_popescu: i see you're having trouble with internet.bs - they seized a domain of mine without warning before, and only gave it back when i retained a lawyer in the Bahamas; the domain was 8chan.co ☟︎
phf: (trying to debug via serial cable on a pentium 233 is it's own kind of fun....)
phf: the goal was to run it on a libretto and try to eat the first couple of blocks, but it wouldn't even connect to rpc for whatever reason, so i gave up on the whole distraction ☟︎
phf: ben_vulpes: i'll take at look in the next few days, but one quick comment, fwiw i built it on a 32-bit openbsd. ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: plaintext node-node link is a doomed thing.