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benkay: I don'
t understand the phrase "seller of safety in btc".
mircea_popescu: the operator would offer very high margin and trade with low net worth parties who couldn'
t participate in the real marketsd.
mircea_popescu: but anyway : mpoe can'
t hedge. what it does is it allows others to hedge against it.
benkay: isn'
t that what the help is for?
mircea_popescu: <Bugpowder> Mpex is a sideshow <<< if it weren'
t for mpex there'd have been no divs this month at all.
mircea_popescu: as in, i don'
t set a %, i just take whatever the max was
mircea_popescu: thestrin1puller well they don'
t really. the idea is they're taking on risk for a high %
mircea_popescu: then again... i guess i can see it. shareholders don'
t care, not their skin. made a 39 per which is not really much lower than usual
thestrin1puller: there is a 29k loss for bondholders, maybe bondholders aren'
t mpoe holders
OneMiner: Ignore is confusing. Can'
t tell who is talking to who.
OneMiner: I personally don'
t know and don'
t hold any of this asset. But I'm being prevented from listening to any intelligent talk about the issue by trolling.Wether you think you are justified or not.
Bugpowder: What about covered exposure are you pretending you don'
t understand?
OneMiner: Just don'
t be rude about it. There's no reason to be a jerk.
Bugpowder: And for me, if I don'
t see what I consider to be mispriced options, I'm not going to buy them
Bugpowder: Because he didn'
t understand the real risks
OneMiner: Ya, just wanted to pass into. Like everything you've said about it and how your opinion matters so much. Don'
t flood.
pgp: question: MPEX support a socket based implementation for requesting trades from a certain seq number forward. Why isn'
t there something like that for quotes?
mircea_popescu: by pointing out that they don'
t ger 500 bux for a vignette
jurov: oh yes, i must tell to deprived they weren'
t in order
jurov: s.mpoe hasn'
t paid yet
MJR_III: jurov: isn'
t that downgraded?
MJR_III: wouldn'
t it be 90 puts and 90 calls for each month?
MJR_III: bitfinex sucks, they don'
t actually send orders out, but whatever engine they have doesn'
t send them out quickly enough, which partially gox's fault
jurov: thestringpuller don'
t be impatient :)
MJR_III: and also you wouldn'
t have to worry about NATing
MJR_III: fuck when i finally got back on bitfinex i am greeted by the position i didn'
t know i had
MJR_III: of course you probbably donb'
t need to stop theoretical attacks just make it impractical
taub: I'm still bearish short term, this retracement isn'
t over
jurov: mircea_popescu cuz you didn'
t use amazon loadbalancer... granted, with 10TB traffic it would get a bit expensive :)
MJR_III: and yes, a pool of ips, but that shouldn'
t be that hard
mircea_popescu: <pgp> often they float <10% of there shares and often aren'
t that liquid <<< /me grins
MJR_III: i can'
t trade at all right now, bitfinex is fucked
jurov: and how do you know for example iDiffs i'm selling aren'
t overvalued trash?
MJR_III: i can'
t see what he wrote but i'm guessing gypsy something
jurov: and it can get you more if ye weren'
t inept and bought mpoe options with these 12k in meantime
jurov: so? you want to pump and dump and can'
t?
jurov: i know. but it's useful for me to try and explain, too, even if he isn'
t listening
MJR_III: i know how tempting it can be to show someone who is obviuosly wrong how and where they are wrong...but i couldn'
t get sucked into that trap any more
jurov: obviously if you aren'
t even replying to my point
jurov: you obvoisly aren'
t trying to understand what i'm saying :/
jurov: tiberiusiv don'
t change the topic
MJR_III: ugh i can'
t trade like this
jurov: this isn'
t so easy with btc.. jus lend it on moment;s notice
pgp: often they float <10% of there shares and often aren'
t that liquid
jurov: so? don'
t clamor for impossible them.
jurov: like if there were millions going in and out, that wouldn'
t cause wild swings?
MJR_III: jurov: because they haven'
t been verified yet?
jurov: and all btc coins aren'
t equal too, as anyone who tried to spend new satoshidice outputs can attest
jurov: but you can'
t use them as a proof of stake tomine
smickles: take many massive loans, get near 50%, the claim you can'
t pay because you have to protect the network!
smickles: but, wouldn'
t that mean they have to do nothing w/ their coins to maintain
smickles: ya know, i don'
t recall bitcoinica going down as often as ya'll say bitfinex goes down
assbot: Hell, ain'
t we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
MJR_III: you just won'
t be able to withdraw USD via Mt. Gox USD codes i think
MJR_III: they can'
t use gox coupons
MJR_III: mircea_popescu: i wasn'
t aware that you did web hosting, but I saw the little hosted by mpex on bitcoinity
MJR_III: someone thinks there won'
t be much of a dividend i guess
MJR_III: Yifu wrote something about that but I can'
t find the link
MJR_III: pgp: i don'
t think it would be that much
MJR_III: to all those people saying btc isn'
t backed by anything...it's backed by drama
MJR_III: i don'
t really like the bitcointalk forums, so i am glad you guys are here to tell me the best articles
bugpowderr: its a same Deprived doesn'
t hang out here
DeaDTerra1: Didn'
t expect this volume :P, I guess it's the combination of everyone that wants in before the holidays and that they just got their salaries
sturles: DeaDTerra1: If you sent to the bank in Japan, they don'
t have any Easter holidays there.
MJR_III: wouldn'
t it make sense to borrow btc then?
MJR_III: makes sense...so you can'
t fill new orders?
smickles: oh, this state doesn'
t have an amount limit
smickles: i don'
t think poverty = corruption
smickles: coming from a country where our dear leader has a public assasination list, corruption doesn'
t sound all that bad
smickles: tiberiusiv: you don'
t think that activity could increase from other people in similar timezones to mircea_popescu ?
MJR_III: i wouldn'
t engage, you are giving him what he wants
smickles: tiberiusiv: most of the activity happening when mircea_popescu is around, doesn'
t really indicate that mircea_popescu is the cause of said activity
mircea_popescu: eh gtfo. facebook doesn'
t have a revenue model, is worth 100bn
MJR_III: in fact...you wouldn'
t even need most of the stuff to be submerged
smickles: tiberiusiv: I haven'
t noticed an exaggeration. Are you talking about something you saw in irc or on a webpage?
smickles: tiberiusiv: i don'
t think he exaggerates, he just speaks of the notational numbers because they are bigger
MJR_III: it won'
t interfere with the electrical operations but dissipates heat better
smickles: tiberiusiv: so you suggest that he's a scammer b/c he's romainian and allows people to post pictures you don'
t like, i understand that. What would you suggest my course of action be based on this information?
smickles: tiberiusiv: you don'
t like bitcoin magazine?
MJR_III: ugh, it doesn'
t auto-ignore tiberiusiv
smickles: and this past month would'
t be the best indicator
smickles: i would use bitfloor more often if it weren'
t for that debt
MJR_III: similar to how you say that the whole world can'
t be hedging
MJR_III: you won'
t have efficiencies
MJR_III: and as mircea_popescu's excellent article showed...you don'
t need bitcoin to do everything
MJR_III: i don'
t think the dollar is going anywhere for a long time