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asciilifeform: ( granted it's a 10min chalkboard 'newtonian' 'sim' )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: as a matter of fact i did. how do you suppose i knew what beam cone to use, lol
asciilifeform: unlike the idjit heterogeneous fpga sold today, this item'd be a snap to simulate.
asciilifeform: ( i suspect mp_en_viaje knew this already, but even intel et al, 'cheat', when you buy a pentium-whatever with 'n cores', it really has 24 or whatnot, and only n working units , the others lasered out ) ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: if you could produce blanks that i can cut with a cd-writer into as much as few hundred cell "fpgas"...
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: substrate gotta be a dopable insulator
mp_en_viaje: consider a sheet of gold upon which small si crystals are found, say.
asciilifeform: it aint even like you can't buy a 30cm piece of si crystal. errybody does already, they simply cut it into 1cm^2 squares. simply costs.
mp_en_viaje: in fact, a cd-shaped cd-writing cut processing item might work exceedingly well. have the buslines in the middle, basically you just add the discs on a rod.
asciilifeform: simplest physical realization of this, would be to position eprom cells along a spiral. then can program via ordinary uv laser in konsoomer 'dvd-r'.
asciilifeform: 1 interesting, imho, variation, would be to program the config regs ~optically~, a la 'cd-r'.
asciilifeform: ( before you laff -- sovok in fact did bake fpga. i have a sample. but it was mid-80s state of art, i.e. metallization-programmed )
asciilifeform: they also had a variant with tree-like local structure, for same
mp_en_viaje: hypercube's not particularly useful, as it's not a geometric shape. but even 2d, not bad.
asciilifeform: they even sold a card where you could plug in N of these, in tile pattern, and get whatever size fabric you like.
asciilifeform: not wholly unrelatedly, asciilifeform's semi-automated archaeology birthed a logworthy output recently. seems like in '80s there was an outfit, 'algotronix', that xilinx bought an' killed , to bury the product in patent liquishit. had entirely homogeneous fpga , made from identical ~200-transistor cells ( with simple north-south-east-west tile interconnects, and 1 flipflop inside, configged via 16bit shift register per cell, connecte
mp_en_viaje: a here we go, delivery!
mp_en_viaje: it may shock you to hear that i actually have a whole pile of whores beating the streets talking to dorks by the fucking pail just to keep me on top of things.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-10 16:38 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-09#1907800 << she has a point, since we picked it up a few years ago it became the new fashionable buzzword to drop in conversations among wanna-be pubes "in the know". happened maybe a year or so ago.
mp_en_viaje: this is supposedly fixed monthly pay. i have nfi, i confess the pricing in telecom fails to make any sense to me, and has, for a while.
asciilifeform: nor did i ever feel burning urge for 30MB/s on gsm -- who the hell pumps wares via a 'pay per MB' sim toy
asciilifeform: huawei's item was the champ, even worked (with a little perling) to send/receive voice calls (why to do this, is separate q, but it does work)
a111: Logged on 2019-04-08 11:51 mp_en_viaje: moreover, and overwhelmingly important, some duning-krugerands retarded enough to not understand that their cunt map they made (coming from the same place their "let's make a pact to get laid before highschool starts" "pact" came, ie, complete insanity and a ridiculously nonsensical worldview, wherein they're magically the only agents, and the world exists on the basis of their mental processes and in no other way, notwithstanding the obvious probl
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, isn't a pube the best possible contraction denoting the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-08#1907456 moron adolescens ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i have nfi what the ' ~100kb init.sh (that ~requires root~) ' horror might be, the only ones i've ever used simply present as a hayes-style modem via usb (a la FG)
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-09#1907800 << she has a point, since we picked it up a few years ago it became the new fashionable buzzword to drop in conversations among wanna-be pubes "in the know". happened maybe a year or so ago. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( or did mp_en_viaje drag a sovok-style satellite rig with him... might explain the 200kg lol )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i confess , i assumed you were already connecting through a 'buy a local simcard' thing of 1 kind or another
mp_en_viaje looks at the wonder. it's something else, requires adobe air, atop a lengthy pile of other bullshit. the comments "#added by yong wong" in the ~100kb init.sh (that ~requires root~) are the lulz of all time. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i dunno re mcd, but specifically recall a protracted litigation-wank re who gets to claim to sell 'chocolate' in the reich
mp_en_viaje: you know, archeologists are the guys who reconstruct a mastoton out of a tooth. NOT out of the hole where the tooth could have went,
BingoBoingo: Sure, the Uruguayo team does. French team had all of two French dudes and a roster full of Africa.
mp_en_viaje: we mock england for being a butthole, but really, northern algiers is no better merely for not being mentioend.
mp_en_viaje: ever since the whole strauss-kahn thing, france's been such a lulzy rumpstate...
a111: Logged on 2014-08-20 01:01 asciilifeform: '…like a refugee from very rural Pakistan who gets relocated to Oslo, Norway, and still thinks that he could make better food if he were only allowed to light a fire in his living room instead of using that complex electric stove. (This is a real news item. Every now and then, landlords discover indoor fireplaces and occasionally the “newbies” to civilization burn down the building.)' (herr naggum)
asciilifeform: whether happened yet or not, it dun particularly concern us imho -- any moar than mp has to think, when dining on foie gras, about rats gnawing on a goose carcass that died over a junkyard somewhere
asciilifeform pictures already the coming orgy of derps , writing 'ada' cum heapism/pointers , so to 'feel like a trader^H^H^H^H^Hboeing' etc
asciilifeform: if indeed so, i suppose it's a good job that we forked it before it got 'found'
diana_coman: perhaps; fwiw I think there's a rather funny rush to "find" Ada.
asciilifeform: thing hid in a cave from the 'open sores movement', and so kept some semblance of sanity , but at the cost of becoming essentially 'found martian artifact' from asciilifeform-circa-2016 pov
asciilifeform: kazakov's thing isn't an ada tutorial, it's a (surprisingly well documented, for a heathen) lib collection
diana_coman: anyway, for client use, it's not ada-heapism that is in any way a problem really.
diana_coman: as I'm coming from a few years already of reading and wrestling planeshift code, I can't say it'll be reading heathen Ada that would cost me time, lol.
diana_coman: anyway, the ini files is a tidbit really; that was the entry point but since I saw afterwards all the www-oriented parts I got curious
asciilifeform: if all yer 'strings' come from the inside of a large, static string, can represent'em simply as tuples , as pictured in above
diana_coman: as I said earlier: I don't think it *has to*; but he clearly doesn't have a problem with it and so he uses it; there are quite a few things grating, yes;
diana_coman: from there I had a look at his zip ada and the rest
diana_coman: he has a short and ok ini-files read/write thing that might come in handy for eulora client really
a111: Logged on 2017-02-02 01:08 asciilifeform: http://unzip-ada.sourceforge.net/za_html/index.htm << astonishingly readable literate-programming d00d. and he has a bunch of these.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-02#1610852 - as I found this only now when I stumbled upon Montmollin's various lib and had (for once!) a rather pleasant surprise: asciilifeform did you actually review any of his code? ☝︎
BingoBoingo remembers growing up in the US where the propaganda line was US missiles had the aim to kiss a target's asshole before exploding. Now, two decades and a couple dozen wars of various sizes later... "Next Gen" weapons not all that relevant. Air defense is the new cool because the threat to Peace this century has always been... US aircraft and missiles. Great Propoganda victory there guys.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: wat's a 'zumba' ?
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/ << TMSR doctrine has been against the idea of bottoms for a while now. Bottomless everythings and everybodies.
asciilifeform: a aa
mp_en_viaje: intel is as much a computer maker as any umbrella shop.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-08 17:48 asciilifeform: ~that~ is how sane folx build irons. and not idjit intel's 'i'ma happily execute this random pile o'bits as a cpu instruction anytime' nonsense.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-08#1907671 << it was supposed to be a TERMINAL, holy hell. ☝︎
phf: i made a mistake of trying to rewrite url highlight in term of message annotations. the later is the mechanism i use for xref and such, and it scans the entire message corpus once, where's url highlight right now is done on each rerender.
asciilifeform: OriansJ: plz know that if you're waiting for mp to wake up and repeat what he has prev. said, you will be quite disappointed. nobody repeats; and failure to address prev comments in the log, is the height of ill manners: can be forgiven a noob once or twice, but one gets with the program and starts using the log , or loses voice fast.
asciilifeform: can also easily see what has been said on a subj, and by whom, e.g.,
BingoBoingo: When I did my last ratings cleanup there was a lot of "Who dat?
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-08#1907489 << Was more motivated by a desire to generally not keep my loans of voice open forever when the princess appears to be slotting for other castles ☝︎
asciilifeform: ~that~ is how sane folx build irons. and not idjit intel's 'i'ma happily execute this random pile o'bits as a cpu instruction anytime' nonsense. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 1st time i booted up that 'ivory' bolix, it actually listed a coupla 'and here ecc triggered, corrected x to y' when revving up
asciilifeform: incidentally, ddr 'hammer' and similar 'induce random bit flips' are only interesting on idjit pc iron, which lacks ecc and bounds checking . on sane iron, flippin' bits blindly gets you a halted machine and a handy printout telling the operator which stick to replace.
mp_en_viaje: this is a large part of what informs the "no magic numbers" stance, for isntance.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 21:31 mp_en_viaje: the driver of the error is the desire of having a ~unique~ personality. it is not deemed sufficient, by contemporary man, to merely have the same personality as the entire tableau of orthodox saints. there's too many of those, see. gotta be unique. as it can't be unique and meaningful at te same time (think, can it ?)... all that's left is the getting-drunk-on-tapwater "secret parameters".
mp_en_viaje: it's a matter of designs, protocols, algorithms. being at a delta from correctness is a homomorphism of having a personality, and in the exact http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906848 sense ☝︎
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: dram ( at least such as sold as 'ddr3' and above ) is actually a scam, i.e. 'works unless the access pattern revisits $row 'too often' ) , this is moar of a shoddy konsoomer rubbish masquerading as deterministic component than an 'attack'
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, not a matter of softs. the dram protocol's as hardware as it gets.
asciilifeform: if yer using idjit softs, enemy has no need to build custom factory for to slip you a subtly mined part
mp_en_viaje: nevertheless, if you implement some dumb protocol, ~even if you implement it correctly~, and ~even if you use it on non-thompson hardware~, nevertheless you have a hole : the dumb protocol, potentially doing who knows what on the side.
asciilifeform: fughetting for a moment fpga : consider ordinary transistor, or even diode. it is not physically possible to bake a 'secretly smart' transistor that does s/mp-pubkey/gavin-pubkey in hopes of being put in somebody's serial port 1 day, and for it to have same analogue characteristics as genuine diode (not even speaking of what it'd look like under microscope)
mp_en_viaje: there's a lot of formal difference, of course. exaclty like there's a lot of formal difference between fucking a crack whore in the ass and fucking a strep throat slavegirl in the mouth.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform does not and at no point did posit a 'magical amulet' iron that somehow cures the effects of throwing in braindamaged softs
mp_en_viaje: to restate the point : there's no substantial difference between a) using dns/ntp ; b) running windows and c) writing your own code to run on your own hardware and interface with say dram.
asciilifeform: ( observe that a hardline skeptic who cannot be satisfied with the 'rngicity' of the analogue boards, can replace'em with hand buttons, or roulette wheels, if he is willing to live with smaller bit rate )
asciilifeform: then and only then it is meaningful to try an' audit the logic payload as a separate entity.
asciilifeform: the ~substrate~ gotta be a physically auditable object tho.
mp_en_viaje: this is really a trivial point.
mp_en_viaje: but the point here was, that as long as what you're implemeting is, say, tcp, or dram, what you will get is not in fact a safely auditable object.
asciilifeform: i say that this is roughly equivalent to 'enemy will sell you a pen that writes gavin's pubkey if you sit down and try to write mp_en_viaje's '
mp_en_viaje: i am not equipped to evaluate the geometry of a leverage of tower of shit.
mp_en_viaje: now imagine a fpga, surrounded by 725 islands, leveraging each one thing, this is net-a that is tcp-ip-b, that'
mp_en_viaje: in short -- imperial dishomogenity is not a free option.
mp_en_viaje: so : suppose a) tcp/ip is intrinsically, by its very [deliberate, and previously uknown-ly so] design vulnerable to "blowhammer", which is a class of yet undescribed attacks ; suppose your fpga includes an electrically-isolated leverage for a.
asciilifeform: i.e. where the part is for all purposes a working one, except in specific condition known to enemy apriori
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it is entirely possible to sabotage fpga in the e.g. 'philips light bulb' sense, where it burns out after 5000 hrs. or shorts + to - erry month. or similar. these are 'physical' sabotages, and imho uninteresting because indistinguishable from simply shoddy part. the interesting hypothetical mine is a ~logical~ mine.
mp_en_viaje: the correct modelling of hiding an alarm clock (slash thorium bar slash live slavegirl slash angry ferret etc) is not a naive linear extension of captain koons' clever watch hiding techniques.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the q is not whether a human reverser can find nic stack with his eyes, but whether you can stuff a robotic 'finder-diddler' of same into general-purpose sea of gates fabric , and still have item that passes inspection (incl. having the expected homogeneous propagation delays b/w the gates)
asciilifeform: item was re 'what computing device offers least room in which to hide a mine when you buy it from enemy'. asciilifeform contends that the moar homogeneous the fabric, the moar difficult to interestingly hide a useful mine. i.e. if you wanted to sell the victim an sram that replaces e.g. mp_en_viaje's pubkey with gavin's whenever it is loaded therein, the resulting device will look quite diff even on optical microscope (not even speak
mp_en_viaje: this, incidentally, has a romanian name, from the 1800s, when the romanians invented it. "teoria formerlor fara fond"
a111: Logged on 2019-04-08 15:01 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-08#1907441 << i'ma come back to this some time we both have a whole hour, it deserves own thrd ( and possibly -- article )
mp_en_viaje: anyway, as far as im personally concerned between mar 2019 and jan 2018 there intervened a lot of eulora-related endianism sads. incl the celebrated http://ossasepia.com/2018/02/08/eucrypt-chapter-9-byte-order-and-bit-disorder-in-keccak/
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 16:42 asciilifeform: i dun actually disagree with mircea_popescu : i never liked bigendianism . but it did come from a particular cost analysis , ftr.
asciilifeform: otoh a healthy d00d oughta imho be able to carry 100kg+ a reasonably small distance
asciilifeform: nor a ramp even.
mp_en_viaje: i packed a few whips and other irreplaceable leather etc torture/domestic implements. but no actual furniture.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 17:41 asciilifeform: reminds me of a folk story from late '50s. shah of iran and his wife went to visit su. she, of course, takes entire household!111 literally, furniture and all, in classic eastern tradition;
mp_en_viaje: im like five-six hundred in, buying cappuccinos five bux at a time. and i'm not even spent yet!!