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gribble: Error: "msg" is not
a valid command.
mircea_popescu: china is actually not in
a desert. mongolia sort-of is.
mircea_popescu: Atomicat nah, it forked
a year ago over
a misunderstanding.
assbot: An historical timeline of The Real Bitcoin (TRB) development, part i. | Contravex:
A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1Ok6H8T )
mircea_popescu: v is
a signature-based versioning system and other things.
PeterL: there is
a mailing list, on the website mircea_popescu linked, and most of it is discussed in these logs
mircea_popescu: brace yourself, while derps derped on tardstalk etc,
a LOT of work went on towards actual bitcoin, and so there's
a lot of catch up to do.
PeterL: <mircea_popescu> pretty much thinking like
a scientist. << is there any other way to think?
mircea_popescu: PeterL this is
a public channel. for obvious security reasons trb is
a superset thereof.
PeterL: #b-
a mining pool implies it is run by people within the #b-
a WoT, trb pool implies it follows the rules set forth in trb
PeterL: #b-
a is this group, which is where trb is developed
Atomicat: Sorry for asking too many questions but what's
a #b-
a pool?
Atomicat: mircea_popescu: anyway, maybe all this "soft-fork" bullshit is really
a good opportunity to start
a #b-
a mining pool.
PeterL: iiuc, the current reference implementation of trb does not support pooled mining, so somebody would have to port the current trb ruleset into
a mining pool program
PeterL: Atomicat, it would be
a mining pool run using the same rule as TRB (the real bitcoin)
Atomicat: mircea_popescu: I have
a good programming background and might be interested in running
a pool if I can offer something other pools doesn't
mircea_popescu: (not that pools are such
a bright idea in the first place, but sadly this is
a dropped ball we can't so far fix)
mircea_popescu: there's
a lot of non-compliant or vaguely compliant mining pools out there.
Atomicat: PeterL: What is
a TRB mining pool?
shinohai: I only made an account
a few days ago during the bitbet brouhaha
mircea_popescu: you don't advertise jobs requiring
a clearance in the want ad section of teh newspaper either.
mircea_popescu: not really. in my mind, trilema jobs board is
a sort of "free for all" - items that anyone can pick up. this is only open to l2, really.
mircea_popescu: PeterL im planning to offer
a little bonus, but someone DOES have to run the actual pool.
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 01:10:25; assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 00:59:53; mircea_popescu: anyway, maybe all this "soft-fork" bullshit is really
a good opportunity to start
a #b-
a mining pool.
Atomicat: You own MPEX and don't have
a profile on bitcointalk??
Atomicat: For
a long time I though that's your profile.
mircea_popescu: (hey, but 123 is
a... symbol, right ? it MAKES SENSE to attach meaning to symbols, right ? buncha illiterate louts!)
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, guy complains about not getting my email, i tell him his shit's probably badly set up, he tells me my shit's prolly blacklisted, i go what the fuck. spend
a time googling to see if this can be even tested, turns out it can, i end up on
http://www.mail-tester.com/web-WeHDBS which says that i'm perfect except "listed in pyzor".
mircea_popescu tries to recall which west african country was
a spanish dominion already.
mircea_popescu: saw
a proper black dude yest, about 6 feet fifty-eight inches, ebony-black. very pretty.
fluffypony: to
a South African most "African Americans" look mixed-race
fluffypony: but in
a movie where
a small green hobbit-creature is
a major star, I don't know if that counts
mircea_popescu: "oh, you made
a movie in 2010 and there's
a buncha black dudes in it ? how considerate of you, where were you in 1952!"
punkman: episode 4 had one black person, then the added
a bunch more in 5 and 6
fluffypony: but they had
a bunch of aliens, so it's
a dumb argument
fluffypony: yeah, that's why I said I doubt many people knew that Darth Vader's voice was
a black guy
shinohai: But alas, James Earl Jones was but
a voice, underneath they still made vadar
a wrinkly old white guy.
shinohai: I don't recall. Don't think so unless it is
a background character.
mircea_popescu: mmkay so : Star Wars Episode IV:
A New Hope being the 1977 & first release of the thing, has no black people in it. does it ?
phf: because
a cryptology themed restaurant, that would be something i'd want to see. nsa contractors go there for burgers, kind of ironically, but also cause it's close to "the location". spy memorabilia, but all utterly obscure for
a casual observer. cute frequency analysis problems sprinkled all over
mircea_popescu: but sadly... it's hard to make
a function to describe future human behaviour.
mircea_popescu:
a) the expectation is, as you've seen, that i'll get an accountant out of bed and on my own dime fix the mess power rangers made because hey, why not, it's
a decentralized protocol which means some idiots break it and the world fixes it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to fully formulate the impedance mismatch here, because on reread this isn't satisfactory. suppose you have
a chain of blocks, B1...Bn. suppose you also have
a chain (different concepts) of txn , T1...Tm.
mircea_popescu: for the raft of 3yos the us is infested with, tits yet hold
a different meaning than ravishment.
mircea_popescu: barely hangs on by
a mix of "grandfathering" and "don't look in this box", much like the usg that spawned them.
mircea_popescu: hard forks are
a change of the protocol. as the change is NOT valid by everyone's rules, it is definitionally an alt coin.
mircea_popescu: this is why we do not give
a rat;s ass about "voting", fundamentally : they already had
a vote that indicated ~100% miner agreement that then had 0% actual support.
mircea_popescu: then mined
a block with high-s and the whole shebang was forked for 36 hours
mircea_popescu: there isn't
a "you do yours and i do mine" thing here. IF we decide to mine as much as one single high s block, this INVALIDATES all further work of all noncompliant miners. forever.
mod6: so here's
a thing -- if I make
a vpatch for this, one doesn't need to build with it either. but one could, and that should resolve the issue.
mod6: but, i'd be nice to ship
a bitcoinatron that actually bitcoinates without the weird shit. i'd like Mr. P. to be able to send coins without issues.
mod6: is there
a reason for only high-S ?
mod6: was thinking that. could just have
a switch for "classic" mode where you get the 50/50 action on high/low, or only low-S.
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 00:15:32; mircea_popescu: if the company you manage behaves as an approximation of
a cockroach, your wife needs
a divorce.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369526 << there is only one Great Cockroach, and all of these folks are merely fuzz upon its antennae. << it's funny how much of
a judeoxtian fundamentalist you are seeing how you don't even alphabet! wouldn't something equally ridiculous like indian-whatever go better with your semiotic ideas ?
☝︎ mod6: so currently, the main thing im working on/looking at is
a possible high/low-S vpatch
mircea_popescu: (you may not know of all the 90s "urban revival" attempts that created such as modern portland etc, after
a seattle blueprint)
mod6: <+asciilifeform>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369573 << is somebody gonna write
a full 'v' treatise ? << i think what we need is basically like an RFC of the thing to explain the overall concepts and baseline functions. this way anyone can implement their own V without having to parse mine, yours, or bens, or whomever.
☝︎ gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 31 weeks, 0 days, 22 hours, 45 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <smickles> easily
a few more bil in things like BPOs and BPCs
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 00:15:32; mircea_popescu: if the company you manage behaves as an approximation of
a cockroach, your wife needs
a divorce.
ben_vulpes: > and only two years remain before they will be having
a layoff << work for other people, get fired by other people
ben_vulpes: "you're not
a man until you can get
a girl off just by tickling her with your whiskers"
mircea_popescu: " According to his analysis, even
a judge's decision that there is probable cause tosuspect
a crime has been committed won't" << oh no, what ever more fearsome thing than when the fiction begins to fray.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: buy one of those robots with camera and lcd ? << we have one of those in our office that rolls around and shit. it's actually not bad, although don't see why
a conference call can't suffice...