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mircea_popescu: publish your total exposure/don't let people expose you over that sumand that'sthat.
MJR_: point is, people can't calculate your ephemeral motives, hence they can't arrive at the same conclusions...if based on clear mathematical profit model, they can arrive at the same conclusions and see the benefits
mircea_popescu: the other definition of moral support however is as to third parties. you can't go around saying "i'm working with mp on this" unless we actually have a deal of some sort.
mircea_popescu: cads those you certainly aren't getting answered.
cads: mircea_popescu: I am a mathematician, not a coder, so I don't expect this project to succeed without some serious help. I have the whole #haskell community. I have 5 years of haskell. I can use ruby, python, php etc for frontend. I will rework my ideas on attribution and profit share (it may be best to arrange that I profit financially from a successful completion). Will this be a project you can provide moral support to?
mircea_popescu: cads yeah well, most people don't dop internships on opm
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yes, that, plus, you can't sanely rely on the end result working.
KRS1: yeah the link..i really can't explain it..i had to wait for Paul to get out, he told me about it..sucked..he did time.
mircea_popescu: so it wasn't gox doing it, it's not related to the dollars on the exhange, running out of theories here.
Scrat: who the fuck is mpoe-pr, isn't that you?
bgupta: if ltc moves to mtgox it will get some liquidity… can't say that will neccesarily help the price but it should be eaasier than btc-e
jurov: i'm not going to predict anything. just don't panic and wait it out
bgupta: so jurov you aren't gonna wait to see if mtgox wil follow through?
bgupta: So are the bot algos relatively public? Trying to understand why some spreads are so wide and others aren't? Or are the less tight spreads situations were there is a human counterparties on the book?
bgupta: You guys don't even directly compete, so that makes comparison even harder. Anyway this is turning into a bit of a rathole.. IE: we are probably not going to change each others opinions.
mircea_popescu: obviously he doesn't have a prayer in hell to compete seeing how he handles < 1k and i do over 1k. of course my service would be better.
mircea_popescu: but that doesn't give them license to lie about it.
bgupta: (I was third level support, and it generally took a long time to get to my desk, and if it did it wasn't trivial to solve.
mircea_popescu: so they wouldn't kniow what to say anyway.
mircea_popescu: then again i guess that's asking a little much, they probably don't have the technical ability to do anything other than read tickets from their host.
bgupta: I don't read "when issues are not simple user-specific issues (or linked to an outage)" as "when issues are not simple user-specific issues that are linked to an outage"
bgupta: I don't yet see evidence of outright lying.
bgupta: they didn't say everything.. they said most.. my take is if they handle more than 50% in 20 minutes… that means that statement is correct.. the rest could take weeks/months.
bgupta: which isn't really something to brag about
bgupta: Your evidence that they lied is a post from you claiming that they lied.. oh, mpoe-pr isn't you?
bgupta: "I won't bother to compile the endless list of proof to show you just lied" Why not?
denialdenial: bit coin didn't invent the problem and it sells itself
denialdenial: and now it can't be gox alone anymore
denialdenial: whether that market is real or artificial doesn't matter
denialdenial: all of these things feed off each other. what hasn't kept up is the supply
bgupta: I don't think we need to exchanges. perhaps more money changers
bgupta: well.. they've said they can't handle ddos attacks
denialdenial: because gox is asingle point of failure and it can't handle the load
bgupta: wouldn't it be better to get that correction out of the way and then let it try to stabialize?
denialdenial: so i don't see how 1000 matters
denialdenial: i don't think the price matters anymore
denialdenial: they updated their bitcoind on their pool but didn't let the db reindex first
denialdenial: i can tell you in case you don't know
bgupta: I don't think so… if there were a crash, I think buyers would come out in droves..
bgupta: Don't know about a good channel, but you are in a channel. ;)
mircea_popescu: "our system did something we don't know why it happens nm we'll undo it manually"
mircea_popescu: i don't jump to the unrelated "they will x"
mircea_popescu: for instance, when someone promises something and then they don't deliver on their promise, even if they're chinese
mircea_popescu: they didn't, and aren't mentioning it again.
mircea_popescu: ChaangNoi they still haven't got 12 th online you know
mircea_popescu: dub i thought you weren't into btc, too risky.
dub: don't care that I paid $13k for a non existant asic
mircea_popescu: i can't understand that retarded bets of bitcoin dood.
Bugpowder: he hasn't sold any
Bugpowder: didn't know he had so much
Bugpowder: BTW - mircea_popescu, Rassah actually ISN'T my friend.
Bugpowder: I am just amazed that the super early adopters don't sell at least a little.
cole_albon: mircea_popescu I don't think I've seen an s.dice dividend yet have I?
mircea_popescu: no i didn't.
thestringpuller: know* (can't grammar tonight)
thestringpuller: since you haven't disclosed that you've met in person
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder she wasn't his wife.
Lyspooner: there is a bitcoin foundation and it doesn't benefit anyone
bgupta: well like 90% of new businesses that have nothing to do with btc fail.. Just because it's btc related shouldn't make that change.
Lyspooner: that's like your third metaphor that i don't find sufficient
mircea_popescu: since btc isn't working all that well for them.
mircea_popescu: you don;'t know who the second guy to discover newton's law is.
mircea_popescu: mod6 205 really wouldn't be all that good for anyone.
deadweasely: my first options! aren't you all proud?!
MJR_: since bitcoin is rarely used as a unit of account, people don't pay rent denominated in bitcoin, or have salaries denominated in bitcoin
MJR_: can't you pay with a regular bitcoin addresss
MJR_: i hope they don't get hacked...
MJR_: when asked about volatility he said "bitcoin is more valuable than dollars, i don't care about volatility"
jurov: [\\\] im using vircurex, didn't eat me so far
unbalanced: I blame Austin Powers... can't trust the Dutch.
cryptrader: Yeah I'm just realizing it myself btc isn't the only and diversifying only makes sense
mircea_popescu: cryptrader tell you honeslty i don't know. i've never been into the alt chains.
MJR_: didn't think there would be any this month
[\\\]: I know mtux runs gox, that doesn't mean anything
[\\\]: that doesn't do anything for me
mircea_popescu: don't use services you don't know the owner of.
MJR_: and glitter that can't be gotten rid of? lol
deadweasely: well, i'm down to whoring for btc since i can't actually buy in anymore on the borked exchanges
mircea_popescu: i don't read the forum.
asciilifeform: gwillen: the marketdroids can call a turd a sausage and eat with relish. but we don't have to
asciilifeform: gwillen: it is an ASIC only in the sense that it isn't field-programmable. But most of the actual circuitry is identical to that of an FPGA
mircea_popescu: nobody did so it doesn't really matter imo.
gwillen: I don't think anybody is shocked if Avalon is a HardCopy
mircea_popescu: you obviously don't own enough bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because lazy bums such as yourself haven't taken one apart to prove this.
jcpham: pham> are you suuuuuure he isn't reading from a script you manipulator, you
jcpham: are you suuuuuure he isn't reading from a script you manipulator, you
mircea_popescu: bitesak i don't think pi can cope
deadweasely: and it's lame as hell, don't use it
bitesak: i would like to do something like that and have my node online. that wouldn't even cost much at all right?
deadweasely: no, i won't
asciilifeform: deadweasely: just don't try to mine there
mircea_popescu: bw isn't huge either.
mircea_popescu: what the hell. law abiding isn't being a whimp, in the vast, overwhelmingly majority of cases.
mircea_popescu: she ain't strangling anything.
mircea_popescu: no they won't, get out.
pgp: if your a bank, you don't need to develop ATM technology
MJR_: at the end of the day, if you can't even handle data...please for the love of god don't try and tackle hardware or supply chain management (looking at you BFL)
MJR_: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJeff_Berwick&ei=36VdUaL4Cuuo0AHlxICIDA&usg=AFQjCNEW4ScEXrdgn7x9fyMdLbP3WQp5bg&sig2=9IihRHrzALlXc_8Y4Ukstw
MJR_: they don't have armored trucks coming for that...and of course i'd limit it to $20 bills only...in and out