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asciilifeform: why should somebody on a deadgoat modem be able to keep their socket open and move 0 data
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779464 << this is an iffy point, currently mostly used to serve imperial nonsense/crapola, but we might end up wishing to overload it. see whole http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=gns thing ☝︎
asciilifeform: keepaliveism gives sour flavour in my mouth, in effect it permits 'oh i can't seem to shit, but DON'T kick me off the pot'
asciilifeform: prolly deserves a formal experiment tho
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: based on tcpdump/wireshark
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is this think based on anything ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 15:56 asciilifeform: we don't use it ? it dies. that simple
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779461 << im affraid wget will have to be rewritten not killed ; possibly in a package with curl, but just as possibly not, and in any case this is next gosplan. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dun think keepalive ( of the http variety , rather than tcp's ) comes into play at all when you aren't on a dialup modem or similar horror
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 15:55 trinque: you're going to what, download the whole hundreds of gb every time you sync?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779452 << no because he doesn't have keepalive so his connection will die within the first mb every time anyway. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'ma wait till mircea_popescu eats rest of thread tho
asciilifeform: GET gives you same thing tho
mircea_popescu: it's not JUST "did it update" ; it's also the issue of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773353 : how do you intend to find the location of your semantically identified content without redirects ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 15:54 asciilifeform: i've never written proggy that issues 'HEAD'
mircea_popescu continues logread to learn proper format!
mircea_popescu: the sum of the cost of getting ten items through one link between the same parties is lower than the sum of the cost of ghetting ten items through ten links.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it'd look like trinque and phf 's answers re HEAD
asciilifeform: hey trinque , do you know the seekrit of this one ?
mircea_popescu: and how, because of the way threading half-works, how.)
mircea_popescu: (i don't mean it's the same thing ; i mean it's in the http because it was in the tcp.
asciilifeform: not tcp
asciilifeform: we're talking about http's keepalive
mircea_popescu: cuz it's in the tcp standard.
asciilifeform: possibly none; i just have nfi why it's there
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779441 << what do you think the problem with keep-alive is ? ☝︎
asciilifeform to this day has failed to buy even 1 , it is almost as rare as 'elbrus'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, he had the ( to this day unobtainable ) 'loongson' mips-top
asciilifeform: ( this is the one ~before~ the ill-fated x60 )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> shouldn't be over 20kgs all told, this ; should fit among clothes. << I used beach towels and blankets.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe to expose him for the fraud he is ?
asciilifeform: what did they want with rms's mips laptop, lol
mircea_popescu: somehow he went to india and they didn't steal his gf ; what do orcs want with weird non-galaxy looking cuisinart boxes.
mircea_popescu: i don't expect this'd happen.
laplinker: asciilifeform: they got ME code here https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-8762-inside_intel_management_engine
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think phf possibly was alluding to ordinary orc-theft of cargo, rather than the usgistic sort
asciilifeform: i.e. to shove red hot poker up the arse of 'intellectual property'
laplinker: asciilifeform: it should be possible, i need to do some tests
asciilifeform: i.e. specifically things that MUCHLY do not want to be debugged.
laplinker: asciilifeform: are you targeting before first fetch of the cpu?
mircea_popescu: yes, well, i don't foresee littoral combat airplane following copa around to diddle your equipaje.
phf: mircea_popescu: hey i flew moscow in the 90s, i'm trained that putting anything in luggage is playing a roulette
asciilifeform: as in, pull the ram sticks.
mircea_popescu: phf very different levels of "not in custody", even if we're accepting the objection.
asciilifeform: laplinker: nogood. the drm crapola runs first.
phf: mircea_popescu: boxes are not in custody during air travel
laplinker: after that you can set HW breakpoint
asciilifeform: exactly as i said then
laplinker: cpu debug msr c80 needs to be set early as well as enable DCI
asciilifeform: these can't both be true
mircea_popescu: phf compare like things. (phf, bb meet ; boxes in republican custody whole time, delivered) $x vs (fedexed boxes) $y.
laplinker: so far it looks like anything past skylake, just need to enable it from bios, it differes per platform.
phf: mircea_popescu: fedex or better yet a private shipping container, later will take couple of weeks though
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it needs there to be one in the 'victim' aha
mircea_popescu: does this need usb3 ?
asciilifeform: ( ideally without using intel's shitware , in the latter, also )
asciilifeform: laplinker: and yes, what mircea_popescu said, write a post about this, i'd like to know what boxes this works on, how to talk to the chip, etc
laplinker: i havnt tried that one yet, just dumped smram so far
asciilifeform: laplinker: how about after boot. can microshit tell that you're singlestepping their kernel ?
laplinker: no soldering, and yes, i can confirm i tried it myself
asciilifeform: laplinker: have you personally tried this ? and stepped through a standard consumer bios from reset to boot sector ?
phf: hey, i'm down for a free vacation, but i'm not convinced that the costs work out in our favour
laplinker: So it is possible to resetbreak with jtag over usb on intel coffeelake
asciilifeform: not with pogos. unless rack is largely empty, as a temporary measure
mircea_popescu: yeah i'm not satisfied this can be done economically.
asciilifeform: they won't sit down in 1u even empty, just a bit too thick
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: pogo has the minus of taking up much vertical space when disk is in
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Looking for empty 1U cases. Put fans in there and affix pogos
mircea_popescu: laplinker make a pgp key if you don't have one, !!register and then you'll be able to self-voice once someone rates you
asciilifeform: phf: unless somebody's got a dedicated 3u travel crate, they prolly oughta move in the vendor crates
laplinker: sorry, im thick
laplinker: yeah, i know. i thought you'd like to know that
mircea_popescu: shouldn't be over 20kgs all told, this ; should fit among clothes.
laplinker: i tried, but no one gave me voice
mircea_popescu: phf the plan here is : 2 boxes alf already has + 5ish for me, depending on what we manage to extract out of his menu a la carte + some pogos if we are satisfied these can be run up.
asciilifeform: laplinker: plz to repost here, it might be of use to somebody
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo got a clear anything in mind, or just hoping it'l work ? have a case somewhere you intend to cram them in so we can look before committing ?
laplinker: asciilifeform: no i hadnt had the chance, sorry
phf: ben_vulpes: republican matters is like reading leaves, i'm trying to figure out dimensions and who's sending what first. fwiw shipping a rack full (as opposed to ascii's original "2 machines") is going to run up the bill just on the oversized charges with airline
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> also related, BingoBoingo if he brings you pogos, how do you plan to use ? decase and mount in an ad-hoc thing, 8-10-12 to the u ? << Pretty much this.
asciilifeform: but errybody knows, Troo Men connect only via http://btcbase.org/log/2014-04-25#643502 ☝︎
mircea_popescu used to dick around on girls' ipad, playing games w/e.
asciilifeform: and i think i even have a z...whatwasit
asciilifeform: they relay through specially made box
asciilifeform: when in bed and can't be arsed to get up
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he's been on icraps so long he forgot the kbd is intended for fingers
ben_vulpes: fuck i can't use this keyboard wtf
asciilifeform: 23 of total sweat.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: throw 'em on gurneys in la aeropuerto?
mircea_popescu: yeah, this planet is actually large.
mircea_popescu: how long was that, 16 hours ?
mircea_popescu: when you went to bsas ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have'em in thick cardboard'an'foam crates
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i took copa via panama & bolivia, to c3 back in the day, it worked ok, ~empty planes some of the way
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: let's include several variants for completeness : 1) fedex , and chancing the VAT 2) somebody other than asciilifeform , who can go sooner, goes, delivers a box 3) BingoBoingo obtains box locally << Fedex to Montevideo is a certain VAT, and random chance of additional import duty.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform incidentally intel sayz good links to sa are all from miami/ft lauderdale etc ; not so much ny. << The plane that does the American Airlines direct Miami-Montevideo route is older than I am. Flights routinely cancelled for repairs. Copa's panama to Montevideo service though is reliable.
asciilifeform: moar general problem. if application is important, conceivably you can afford to throw out the 7 of 10 or whatever crates which show symptoms of having been opened.
mircea_popescu: nobody is ever sure about alf, that's his superpower.
mircea_popescu: the alf methjod, and i expect is correct, is "i got technical samples, i am taking to $conference" or w/e.
mircea_popescu: phf as i said, none of this refers to item at hand.