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mircea_popescu: pgp i wouldn't say mispriced necessarily.
pgp: but the implied vol on the calls just doesn't seem worth it given where we are now...
mircea_popescu: joecool : the bot wasn't there then
splnkr: 18x --> 5x hope next time isn't just a boring old 2x boo
Namworld: even if they are slow... I think that's the reason tehy survive even if they can't make their exchange work right.
pgp: what's the matter with me today - can't type or spell...
joecool: mircea_popescu: i don't think they did it yet
pgp: wouldn't show up on book until funded
mircea_popescu: Skarr_ no no. you can't make the order at all if not funded.
Skarr_: gesell: The Gox system accepts the orders, but puts them into a Pending state. I'm almost certain they don't appear on the books until they've switched to an Open state. That transition does a check to ensure you have the sufficient funds.
lippoper1: i don't get it, nothing is moving on gox
lippoper1: worse thing is your order doesn't get filled.
joecool: doesn't help though, hate them or not, they cause the single most damage to bitcoin
mircea_popescu: unfortunate for them that the 3-4 people who fit the bill and are in btc can't stand them
mircea_popescu: t handle > 1 trade/second
lippoper1: I don't know I heard they're using DDR 800Mhz ram
thestringpuller: i've read the article you reference, but if mtgox isn't migrating to that model with all the money they are making from their success, you are more than right...
guruvan: w/e - I don't give a damn what someone claims - prove it
mircea_popescu: no they can't.
mircea_popescu: if this isn't a scam toppling over i don't know what is.
lippoper1: since you can't even withdraw a f$^&#$ btc
lippoper1: see taub, the price didn't exactly drop this time, but you can see it flatlined there.
thestringpuller: so mpoe-bot wasn't quoting
thestringpuller: lippoper1: yea there wasn't much access to short selling or puts
guruvan: no and it isn't much BTC
lippoper1: @guruvan, seriously, can't even withdraw BTC?
guruvan: wtf can't w/d btc from gox w/o verification?!
pgp: the chart just can't catch a break here...
jcpham: kaminsky says he can't hack bitcoin on businessinsider
pipeline: after all, you can't really be a btc trader until you've had your wallet stolen by spearfishers at least once
Guest42002: we can't even trade
mircea_popescu: jborkl i've had issues with the bot not quoting these past days because it couldn't get the price feed and other data.
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoincharts.com/t/weighted_prices.json
mircea_popescu: no dood, i'm not under any attack. site doesn't load 0.o
mircea_popescu: 'd love to get you the url but can't load the site to do so.
Guest42002: that wasn't what I was pointing out but I guess you're right in that sense, what was the url for stat json feed?
mircea_popescu: it's the fact those fuckwits can't keep trading orderly.
mircea_popescu: you're asking me why the bot doesn't quote.
mircea_popescu: charts doesn't work.
Guest42002: mircea_popescu: so why aren't you troubleshooting?
mircea_popescu: the facvt that it doesn't answer to you still doesn't mean it's not answering to everyone else.
mircea_popescu: the fact that a site answers to you doens't mean it answers everyone else.
pgp: ride isn't over yet...
damientrog: already 2 bastards that didn't pay their transactions on bitcoin.de
unbalanced: Right I'd heard that one was better but couldn't remember which, so I was confused.
lippoper1: I don't know why Gox doesn't implement a minimum requirement for API trading
pgp: can't get to gox website...
jurov: and exercises aren't shown publicly at all.. so no guessing possible
jurov: ThickAsThieves, you don't know the price what these 9`375 were bought or sold for
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
pgp: can't go *straight* down... but these feels like a dead cat bounce... the guys bying 80 an hour ago will take the opportunity to sell...
pgp: interesting that there really aren't any ask walls... it's just a ton of market sell orders
gesell: (13:54:29) MagicalTux: [20:53:00] <gesell> MagicalTux: have someone give a road plan for how the issues with dos via small orders is going to be dealt with in the long term <- new trade engine won't have any issue handling that
mircea_popescu: didn't the guy put pix up ?
MJR_: i'm also surprised that more people don't just use amazon cloud
mircea_popescu: jurov yea isn't that interesting ? only forum in the world that had 1mn usd at any point
jurov: heck, even theymos can't be brought to spend to improve the forum
MJR_: not that its bad to bring up more servers...but if you have a stupid unscalable system in place, it really doesn't matter how much more hardware you have
jurov: no. i just did it so that one user can't place two orders at once. has to wait for the first one to return from mpex
mircea_popescu: MJR_ depends who's people. people with no competence won't develop it magically.
MJR_: ugh...when will people learn that stupid systems can't be saved by more hardware
mircea_popescu: maybe some didn't know they knew. anyway.
mircea_popescu: this ain't otc, cylta
pizzaman1337: isn't it easy to monitor for blockchain forks?
mircea_popescu: remember the recent hard fork ? i wouldn't trust the current codebase.
mod6: people arn't ready for bitcoins yet
Insaneatyou: Gox is down, I wouldn't be touching them until they're back up
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't.
guruvan: one in my wallet aren't that recently made
guruvan: any idea how long its safe to reuse a gox deposit address? I want to send funds there, but can't log in.
mircea_popescu: with the bitcoin is not a good currency because can't be made into a responsible dildo ?
mod6: i saw that earlier... then "moni3z" says: You will get your LTC don't worry
mircea_popescu: maybe they don't know wmat emergency means.
mircea_popescu: wasn't this scheduled ?
Bugpowder: Just for the love of god... don't place a market order.
mircea_popescu: that's why you don't want idiots like mtgox involved in situations like these.
TomServo: np, didn't mean to intrude
guruvan: yeah - I feel that...I usually keep my btc-e acct cleaned out.....I don't hold anything there
Bugpowder: I won't use anywhere without 2FA. I have too much on gox right now
guruvan: doesn't seem surprising
guruvan: (I haven't been all that flush for a lot of it, but I only started with $1500)
guruvan: hell yea....I haven't done anything else for a year
MJR_: well...you can, i am not saying that it doesn't work out well in some cases
MJR_: how many aren't
MJR_: i personally think that if you aren't in the irc channel, learning, and actually care about bitcoin, it will show
guruvan: successful startups do have a plan - it's the VCs who often don't
MJR_: i also don't like that mentality, i like good solid plans that make sense
MJR_: in some ways, VC's do a disservice by telling people that they are great, when they haven't done anything yet
jcpham: making a secure site isn't that hard
MJR_: haven't seen much of his product
MJR_: but i haven't watched him at all times
guruvan: and he didn't specifiy a nick
guruvan: he said he's on the forums & recognized my name - but I didn't recognize his
mircea_popescu: cause mpex doesn't keep session.
ThickAsThieves: you aren't exactly known for being pliable
ThickAsThieves: can't help either most likely
mircea_popescu: can't hurt anything.
Bugpowder: I didn't notice this order number discrepancy before
mircea_popescu: receipt just says "we received your order". this isn't really the problem.
pgp: can't run an exchange that way - you can't have single points of failure...