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mircea_popescu: so i signed nothing and yet IT (and only it) could know it was me. this is important.
mircea_popescu: you're switching things. the point is that deedbot knows it is really me ; not vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: here's the handshake : syn -> 5db1fee4b5703808c48078a76768b155b421b210c0761cd6a5d223f4d99f1eaa -> 1337 -> ack.
mircea_popescu: yeah, they are. much like deedbot distinguishes above.
mircea_popescu: it quickly becomes dubious. because a signature permits a certain relationship. whereas gossipd rests on dubious relationships.
mircea_popescu: i'll just continue using my current system, because such a gossipd would be an outrageous degradation of everything.
mircea_popescu: a gossipd that requires me to sign anything is not to any degree interesting.
mircea_popescu: !!rate deedbot 1 How are you gonna check it's really me, bitch ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. identity doesn't need signature to be checked. behold :
mircea_popescu: this is not only a ridiculous hope, but contrary to design principle. the point of gossipd is that he sees.
mircea_popescu: well, the principal difference between gossipd-for-v and gossipd-proper is that v operates on signed matter exclusively ; gossipd-proper operates on unsigned matter exclusively.
mircea_popescu: certainly it is not contemplated here thatg anyone would be forced to run v to get gossipd. heck, i don't even believe such "forcing" would be in principle possible.
mircea_popescu: eventually they separate, if they do, or the nodule dies off/gets resorbed in the main trunk, or the trunk dies off and the nodule continues it instead, or or or.
mircea_popescu: still, you know - most everything extant today started life as a nodule on something else. nothing wrong with this in principle.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can't "bolt things" to items that do not exist.
mircea_popescu: most designs suffer a lot of changes when one tries to actually implement them, which is why prototypes exist in the first place.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger well the whole point is to stop wondering.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger gotta start somewhere. but yes, you intuit correctly, that's where it's headed.
mircea_popescu: anyway. this "separation of concerns" objection would have a lot more meat on its imaginary bones if there actually eixsted any sort of gossipd. as there doesn't, the objection has no legs to stand on.
mircea_popescu: "who are you ?" "i am my V and .sig machine" is a perfectly fine response.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160909/#23 << yes mod6 but to clarify : "one button" refers to the situation where the user already has a trusted copy of V, and a .sig directory populated as per his taste. these are part of the definition of identity, and going forward can and should be assumed present.
mircea_popescu: we could make it work on udp, and initiate sessions through encrypting a large prime to the destination's key or some equivalent implementation, so we get to test alf's new-internet-order ideas also.
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform mod6 trinque et all : what would you think about adding a p2p client to V ? it'd be like a daemon which listens for connections from peers and maintains lists of pressables.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it's not bikeshedding when i actually use it.
mircea_popescu: the ~only possible interpretation is that people simply suck at knowing what they got.
mircea_popescu: ok let's approach it this way : what is so special about the make files that they get their own tree ? why not say, all .c files get their own, all .h files get their separate own ? inasmuch as you can't use the makefiles without the sources, they belong in the same tree as the sources.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger can we stop having this "multiline" bs unless specifically togled on somehow ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, eating trail mix for survival, in town. what's wrong with you know, cuisine.
mircea_popescu: oh that was the other thing! "soylent". ran by some douchy dood with all sorts of "gonzo" marketing ideas, vaguely reminescent of the airbnb clowns.
mircea_popescu: by the time ice age 24 is available "only in select theatres" because nobody can be arsed to torrent it they'll be ready with iphone 17 ?
mircea_popescu: ^ actual spoonfull of straight cesium, complete with chereknov blue glow, handled. by hand.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck thinks this works. seriously now. trying to shoot the idiot is hard enough, but to disable enemy combatants by spraying "uranium" on them...
mircea_popescu: wtf, they're going to carry a plant by the backpack so the enemy has to take 10 minute breaks after every two minutes of shooting ?
mircea_popescu: so fucking stupid. soviet workers shoveled dirt in the very core of the blasted ukrainian plant.
mircea_popescu: wasn't this ancient us army crap from like the 1950s ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger what's your notion of a difference between a public and secret bot ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly what happened with indians, too. mn randos were sucked into indian lands / indian women / etc.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger meanwhile i figured out that if im careful to never use it, it won'\t mostly pop in again
mircea_popescu: if the us lost 400mn heads tomorrow it wouldn't stand.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm not prepared to go into microbiological details of smallpox. but even admitting vaccine saved 10, heck, 20% of the population. then what ?
mircea_popescu: they are protected however still, because "herd immunity", which is to say OTHER people not gettng it artificially reduces the "population density" from the pov of that pathogen.
mircea_popescu: but more's the pojnt : even in very genetically diverse populations (such as yurpeans, because colonialism! such as not redskins, because stoneage losers), a good portion of the population has poor vaccine response.
mircea_popescu: vacciness work through stimulating the expression of pre existing genes/proteins/complexes, not by creating a magical forcefield around your dick.)
mircea_popescu: all these proteins are created, mostly in the liver, on the basis of blueprints, which are encoded genetically. which means that if your father didn't have anywhere a marker for smallpox, and he had you with a woman who also, you are immune to vaccination : it won't express anything.
mircea_popescu: (to explain the science involved : immunity works as a multi layered interplay of numerous proteins. some recognize specific bits of cells - hopefully, pathogens only, or else autoimmune response - some mark these recognitions, some others further mark, it's a whole shebang.