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asciilifeform: sometimes, trivial fix. ( koch's gpg had at least 1 case, iirc ) but doesn't generalize to a mechanical fixer.
mircea_popescu: first let the build fail, then look at whether yo ucan be arsed to fix, then call it dead.
mircea_popescu: even though this is true, still no reason to permit them to name things.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sometimes one, sometimes the other. sadly.
asciilifeform: the build barfs, on account of 'we #include <liquishit21.h> and but you only have liquishit19.h and it takes 3 void * args in fucksheep() but our, Improved!1, takes 5 '
mircea_popescu: they don't. they just put the right words in the makefile.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 15:21 asciilifeform: still something that imho a respectable ports collection oughta be able to auto-disgorge, e.g. 'give me last ff that didn't demand gtk3'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781262 << why not simply "do not permit package to demand, merely suggest priors". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 15:20 phf: asciilifeform: by the way, freebsd's ports system (i tried it on a machine that can actually compile things, unlike x60) is a little bit more configurable than pkgsrc/openbsd, so you can actually disable dbus in emacs or firefox! but the lulz of lulz, firefox depends on gtk3, where you can't configure out dbus, so presumably it gets pulled anyway.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781259 << i think the pill for this sort of nonsense is to nuke the dependency graph altogether, bitch may depend on what you tell it to depend on and naught else. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: massively easy to implement than build a whole day/month state machine.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 15:11 phf: that's accidentally btcbase behavior, next and previous buttons figure out next date by looking at next message's in sequence timestamp
asciilifeform: didn't even think to eggog
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: oh hah i assumed it was continuation, for some technical reason, of december -- 'december-2'
mircea_popescu: (note, btw, the old link still resolves. and will, till the end of time. at no cost to me.)
mircea_popescu: well, they soon will, of course. but i hadn't mentioned either.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/no-such-labs-snsa-january-2018-statement/ << Trilema - No Such lAbs (S.NSA), January 2018 Statement
asciilifeform: or for that matter the lulzboat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do they know about edison's concrete sofa?
mircea_popescu will now fix the title.
mircea_popescu: i think it's quite the educational maneuver.
mircea_popescu: one harem amusement is, girls propose batshit insane anti-engineering devices. such as, for example, a car made out of poured concrete. then they proceed to defend it as best they can.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/no-such-labs-snsa-december-2017-statement-2/ << Trilema - No Such lAbs (S.NSA), December 2017 Statement
asciilifeform: ( just what type of nonsense in particular case -- is ~randomola )
asciilifeform: dunno, i think mircea_popescu's 1st picture, of the elementary 'my language lost the human parts' is spot on
mircea_popescu: and if that theory dun satisfy you, i have no better one.
mircea_popescu: like an alcoholic going about replacing words so room reads rum and vine reads wine, so a libertard, "equality" this and "democracy" that.
asciilifeform: riight, but this is a... spring. not a synchrophasotron, no.
mircea_popescu: anywa. as to how it is possible... equality, alf. they stuff it in everywhere.
mircea_popescu: anyway, quoted object is first result on a search, at least on the network i looked at.
asciilifeform: sorta why there's no escape around '1st, learn a human language' item
mircea_popescu: unyieldingly disappointed in this manner.
mircea_popescu has this sad, and ever saddening, tendency to check "references as available to young lass" whenever item of young lass interest pops in.
asciilifeform: ( not even speaking of latinism; but the subj itself )
asciilifeform: did these folx ever... see?! a spring
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 14:34 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781218 << laugh, but until today i had nfi that this mistranslation existed ! and it is still not clear to me how it was possible to come up with it while knowing that the orig referred to springs ( where the correct orig statement is true, and the bastardized -- elementarily -- not )
mircea_popescu: in retrospect, that 50% may be severely understated -- i can't think of a girl that actually likes boys. even if not gay, the selection on tap is such that... well...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've met a bunch of "vegetarian" gals that are no longer ; much like i actually fuck about half-lesbians by headcount these days. if you don't know how $item is, easy enough to "give it up"
mircea_popescu: so virgin bois destined to a life of online cuckolding (speaking of which -- seriously now, stop fighting it, look how pretty it is : http://boards.4chan.org/gif/thread/12067714 ) can sorta imagine themselves fucking my holes ; but on the other hand http://trilema.com/2018/hey-women-did-you-know-that-before-the-pantsuited-hilarity-gave-you-your-civil-rights-you-were-living-in-slavery/#selection-71.0-73.47
asciilifeform: hey i'm sure the rats in the dumpster also would think it is nogood
mircea_popescu: the thing with food is that if you're used to crap, good food tastes dubious at best to you.
mircea_popescu: local beer drinkin' gals (and the beer here is terryfying swill) think my fine rum (which is indeed finest in the world) is no good. ☟︎
asciilifeform: or is it clear even to maggot that if mircea_popescu wanted to feed a cake to maggots, he can get them right outside of his window, and doesn't need to import from overseas ? but for this other item somehow not clear
asciilifeform: how come nobody writes in, in response to mircea_popescu's food articles, offering to 'help' to eat the mega-caeks ? ( or... do they )
mircea_popescu: btw, speaking of the pizdi thing : can you even for a second believe thant 100% (that is, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT) of respondents were MALE, penning items in the vein of "well... maybe you need help fucking the herd you already got ? you never know ? hm ?"
hanbot: to its credit, chair never threw itself into my wine, to have to be fished out. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if you're willing to say the "pay me what i say for me to do what i think i should do" class is more like gnats than chairs, in the end it makes no difference, mechanisms are still not people.
mircea_popescu: "check me out, master of the chairs, i roll them down inclines!!!" ie http://trilema.com/2010/aventurile-zilei/#selection-49.743-49.975
hanbot: mircea_popescu sure i remember, was one of the more hysterical objections i'd ever heard. and iirc it wasn't just that *trilema* was "illegal"; *you* were lol ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "chair knows enough to roll down a grade". mmkay ?
asciilifeform: dunno that 'chair' is the right model. they have at least the elementary behaviours of e.g. fruit flies.
mircea_popescu: they're just items. can you imagine a chair taking revenge ?
asciilifeform: i suppose this is not so diff from the folx who kept shilling for e.g. pirate ~after~ the magic day
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because the poor have no souls.
mircea_popescu: so you know, to alf's absolute standard, "she never suffered the consequences", i guess.
asciilifeform: this part i always found puzzling. why not take the chance for revenge ☟︎
mircea_popescu: would rather keep paying the personal cost of the lie than admit to it being dumb.
mircea_popescu: somehow even if given the chance, usg-influence agent orc will NOT cut the usg idiocy out with hot shears.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/oameni-de-a-caror-nefericire-ma-bucur/ << jeanne chiriac. she was utterly bankrupt a few years later, but never penned the proper http://trilema.com/2010/bani-pentru-piariste/ self-humiliation piece.
mircea_popescu: "they" in the sense that there was some evident central structure, prolly driven by us embassy on a tight budget, and there was a lot of faking audience numbers and so on.
asciilifeform was rereading one just the other day, the one with the flowery dress
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the hipster bunch.\
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at any rate, i'd say about 1/3 of pre-2012 trilema consists pretty much of this, "corner ro toporisk, erape them, publish the results".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which they
mircea_popescu: hanbot hey, remember when trilema was declared "illegal" because i had an ocean of stickers put up in the vein of http://trilema.com/2016/pizdi/ and they a) had never thought of it and b) couldn't afford the coupla benjies even if they had thought of it, so massive butthurt ensued ?
asciilifeform: 'nobody's pissing, rain is just yellow around these parts'
mircea_popescu: rather like today's usgistani reaction, at that. great times.
mircea_popescu: sure. tons of various kinds, i spent years pissing on them in ro while they were "upset" and "trilema doesn't exist because it pisses on us from the balcony".
asciilifeform: export-models of same fungi as ate the ustards themselves, neh
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/sunteti-besini/ << "entrepreneurialism" voodoo (more of those, iirc one even recently linked ; plus a buncha girlies "PR" and "magazines" and whatnot nonsense)
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/spamerul-dan-pulic/ << very typical usg's orc programme "art & spam" item.
asciilifeform: old cult dies, thousand fungi bloom.
BingoBoingo awaits phf's more traveled assessment of traffic and transportation in Montevideo.
mircea_popescu: logically, if you don't step on their face, they're going to go about "having ideas" and "making choices" and so on.
BingoBoingo: They do have pnojes! To order deliveries made en motocicleta
mircea_popescu: but otherwise yes, your intuition is fundamentally correct, the scum is universally responsive, they could produce however millions of "human rights" and "democracy" and the rest of the fake bullshit if anyone gave them the time of day.
asciilifeform: oh hah i'd expect they have pnojes by nao
BingoBoingo: Here most of the motocicletists seem to be delivery folk. Behave like scared rabbits. Do shit like coast with motor off downhill on sidewalks.
mircea_popescu: that sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no monroe doctrine for egypt. no ubiquitous "smart"phone to carry the message of the imams of the cult of the dead clitler.
mircea_popescu: they are at that. you should see the retards here. 0 lights, on highway. weaving in like nobody's business. so what if it's night, you should be able to sense their presence.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what i was thinking of, is sorta like the diff b/w usa motorcyclist and orc : the ameritard buys 'harley' on credit, because he saw some movies once; the orc has old zundapp simply because that's all the petrol he can afford , and all the parking that's to be had in his goat shed << Nah, they do not ride zundapps. They ride a lot of Yumbos and other chinese imports.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how would you account for the diff ? (i.e. egyptian orc has his 'jam tomorrow' receptors safely plugged by koran ? or how. why not as susceptible to 'betterfutureism'..? )
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i assumed, possibly naively, that the orcistani ones simply can't afford a motor. << There is another contingent that believes, or says they believe motocicletas are UNSAFE!!!
mircea_popescu: no. there was about as much biciclism there as in colombia/uruguay/whatever, but these looked like mobility solutions rather than "hope in a better future".
asciilifeform: south amer orcs indeed seem to go about signalling for imagined gringosaheeb to uplift'em to mothership. how about in mircea_popescu's egypt tho ? same kind of bicyclism ?
mircea_popescu: and what he's virtue signalling is one of two things : either "i am ready to be elevated into a criminology beca at spaceship" or else "i am ready to be given a precious cuntlet you no longer need to rule all things around me".
mircea_popescu: in my view, orc biciclist is virtue-signalling, exactly like entirely worthless zek that goes about yakking "civil rights" as if the clitler version of this were a thing.
mircea_popescu: elisa estevez is the direction to understand this, the "magical orc touched by the vorlons".
mircea_popescu: yes but this model has nothing to do with reality.
asciilifeform: what i was thinking of, is sorta like the diff b/w usa motorcyclist and orc : the ameritard buys 'harley' on credit, because he saw some movies once; the orc has old zundapp simply because that's all the petrol he can afford , and all the parking that's to be had in his goat shed
mircea_popescu: then they gotta "fight corruption" in the sense of, get the local elite replaced with more malleable turds.
mircea_popescu: in fact, the difference between "functioning democracy" and "evil authoritarian regime" in the cia fictionbook is whether the local elite takes the above view or the mp view of "everything you do here, you pay, and you pay to find out how much to pay, and pray it doesn't change further".
mircea_popescu: and the axe handles in orcistan tend to [be selected by their] promote the idiocy.
mircea_popescu: not differtent disease at all. it's just that in libertard worldview, king of myanmar is a step down for widow of indistinct army colonel.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i assumed, possibly naively, that the orcistani ones simply can't afford a motor.
mircea_popescu: so yes, wanna-be "hipsters" from south america (pro tip : you CAN NOT be a hipster there, fakers!) are, irrespective of their hallucinated "wealth", pushing the usg official catechism-for-the-poor. what of it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i.e. ameritard biciclism is diff disease than orcistani.
mircea_popescu: empower the alt-reality fictions of worthless "precious" cuntlet, so devoid of any value or impoirtance she couldn't even fdind clerical employment in her home country.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not sure what you're arguing here. of course orc "chiefs" as promoted by usg tards (ie, exactly http://trilema.com/2017/in-case-you-were-wondering-where-all-the-worthless-nuland-drones-ended-up/ )exist entirely and for no other reason than to promote the usg tard's worldview ? yul brenner's role in the usg tard wankfic of "anna and the king" is all about how the KING of orcistan knows no greater glory than to