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mircea_popescu: so i'm guessing... another 2-3 weeks for full sync, making a trb full sync take just about two months on a reasonable box.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 23:26:12; deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] An historical timeline of The Real Bitcoin (TRB) development, part ii. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/21/an-historical-timeline-of-the-real-bitcoin-trb-development-part-ii/
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1380409 << dun wanna make pete_dushenski cry, but this is a ~terrible~ summary, if i were whacked over the head and forgot about my patches, and had to re-learn them from that article, i'd have nfi what they were and why. ☝︎
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] An historical timeline of The Real Bitcoin (TRB) development, part ii. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/21/an-historical-timeline-of-the-real-bitcoin-trb-development-part-ii/ ☟︎
punkman: large bocks are a good thing
adlai would at least prefer a "tries hard but mostly fails", but will settle for "either retarted or usg" because it's 'nearly a laugh'
BingoBoingo: From the mines, Micheal Jordan edition: "MJ used to tell Johnny that “Tiger Woods is an idiot. I tried to help him, but the kid’s gonna get caught.” (we all know how that turned out). In order for a girl to get to MJ, she needed to go through 4 undercover former narcotics detectives just to speak to Michael. She had to be approved by all 4 to make sure she wasn’t gonna say a damn word about MJ to anyone. So there’s MJ, n
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BingoBoingo: Maybe your ergot friend can reveal the truth in a spiritual experience?
BingoBoingo: Why not google that string to see if there are already human translations. Or just swim across the Micheal Jordan river and ask someone a little browner than yourself?
BingoBoingo: It's useful to know which shitcoin it was this round and the record a running tab of what i++ next shitcoins are
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1380275 << i could try feigning stupidity and becoming sturmbannführer of something, but i don't think it works like that - you can't turn into a hapsburg emperor by elongating your nose, last i heard ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i think we might be a few iterations away from it yet tho
mod6: eh. kinda sorta, i gotta re-read that part when i get a chance. but i think that you think it's useful :]
asciilifeform: it is to answer 'wtf did this come from' questions, as a class.
danielpbarron was a victim of bitcoinica :<
asciilifeform: os+language such that a usable and correct bitcoin client is 10kB of src.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1380266 << yes! and you can almost ~define~ 'sane system' this way. with the caveat that it can't be a non-orthogonal fudge like a program consisting of one line 'start_bitcoind()' nor anything in that spirit. ORTHOGONAL operators. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's a very ample history of idiots thinking they may bypass this, starting with bitcoinica. i welcome more victims, gladly.
mircea_popescu: "i want every one thing to be in a single place" is a deep driver of meta-programming.
adlai: you want to optimize screenful-legibility... this is a convex space, but far from linear
mircea_popescu: note that there's a great tendency to condense lines by "meaning". which is what alf's proposal to stick a && in that double if clause comes to.
mircea_popescu: the reason the newline { is hated is because it eats a line. people generally want to cram stuff in their screens.
danielpbarron: I also prefer the '{' on a newline vs on same line as function name. But I haven't done nearly as much coding as those of you who hate these conventions so what do I know
mircea_popescu: this is a significant loss to everyone doing things that depend on the difference between one item and the other.
mircea_popescu: why is that a good thing ?
mircea_popescu: "Yves here. Get a cup of coffee. This is a deep dive into how Bitcoin works from a payment systems perspective, and why the failure of promoters and journalists to look at it in those terms has led them to greatly overestimate its significance." << "come hear my very novel take on why bitcoin is not disruptive because it doesn't do the buzzword i think i understand and for this reason matters more than everything else!"
mod6: --- a/bitcoin/src/init.cpp 29fbb8792c3462ced61b4a0284360122f72c4fef7fb5fb84e5399967ab6474cd83ccf3a60eb3c425e183b1b95fb9ca71fc23bb791316d762034559df293f8bb0
mod6: diff -uNr a/bitcoin/src/init.cpp b/bitcoin/src/init.cpp
mod6: --- a/bitcoin/src/init.cpp ff7009f672bf400a42d1d7afb6e58aaf1c29d9c219fad51c5f17000243a485e92bbb250d3f4bbec3f0717d00fad620c294d537832671f20c0979fb3f1383779b
mod6: diff -uNr a/bitcoin/src/init.cpp b/bitcoin/src/init.cpp
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 12:53:33; mircea_popescu: what init.cpp are you working on as an a mod6 ?
BingoBoingo: Shit's popping up everywhere now. USG phillipino delivery for ClassicCoin must have finally arrived a week late
BingoBoingo: They can't even beg for bits-coin anymore so they gotta beg for a bits-coin they might eventually have
BingoBoingo: NINE TIMES A LOL: "We don't matter. What matters is begging the cartel of miners to adopt a change the community overwhelmingly wants." https://archive.is/cGTNK
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: remember when Garzik was all "Lets build a decentralized exchange for ASICMINER"
mircea_popescu: or as a bullet between the eyes. either way.
shinohai: "I admire Dr. Pieter Wuille’s brilliant hack to deploy it as a soft fork. But despite being brilliant, the soft fork Segregated Witness is still a hack. A hack is dirty. Such a technology would be better implemented as hard fork.”
BingoBoingo: "Chun has made a concrete hard fork proposal since – though the details of this proposal are not yet clear."
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> sealed pipes from arse into the sea are a very modern (and shaky) abstraction. << Not sealed the whole way, settling ponds etc
asciilifeform: sealed pipes from arse into the sea are a very modern (and shaky) abstraction.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, and perhaps relatedly, for a long time the concept of toilet consisted of a ditch api, upon which you could implement your arbitrary toilet at any point through placing a wooden beam\
asciilifeform: i was somehow under the idea that the romans lounged around in their communal shitters, both sexes, for hours at a stretch, for no particularly good reason, just chit-chat
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assbot: The sad state of Bitcoin code on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OAauPu )
asciilifeform: there is no place in computingdom where one does not find it after just a light scratch.
mircea_popescu: 5) Function Macros And Recursion <<< "What ended up being the bug in my preprocessor for this test case was in evaluating the argument prescanned tokens that were passed to a function macro invocation. If the function macro being invoked contained a token with the same identifier as the function macro being invoked, but didn't actually call that function macro, it would incorrectly disable this token. This bug combine
asciilifeform: reducing the cpu instruction set is sorta like lancing one particular bubonic boil on the body of a plague victim.
asciilifeform: i suspect that ~emergence~ is a difficult concept for people. e.g., the fact that the digits of 'pi' are not in any sense 'random'
asciilifeform: every once in a while, i run into somebody like this
asciilifeform: http://recc.robertelder.org/op-cpu.txt << he has a full toolchain, incl. c compiler, and several emulators for it
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 10:04:15; copypaste: i have a high BMI, but only because my spine collapsed due to my condition which takes many inches off my height. but even then BMI is only 31.
assbot: The sad state of Bitcoin code on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: i'm not reading now either, just had some summaries made by a rule
mircea_popescu: not in a systematic manner.
mircea_popescu: ./serialize.h:// There's a clever template way to make arrays serialize normally, but MSVC6 doesn't support it
thestringpuller: In fact when I was thinking of going into education one of the courses I took harped on the fact that the best mode of teaching is pairing a real expert with student apprenticeship style.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: there was an episode at c3 involving a box of matches, prolly what mircea_popescu was remembering.
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Matchbox | Matchbox. A three-some in the back of a car. Guy 1: Dude I hooked up with Sarah and Kourtney in the back of my car lastnight! Guy 2: DUDE YOU JUST HAD A ...
thestringpuller: So how is derp supposed to even begin to learn correctness, if he can't understand what a correct foundation is.
asciilifeform: no parachute, just a helpful fella telling you how many metres until your splat.
mircea_popescu: you know a) the intention was to contrast it with GAY science
asciilifeform: back when the english folks were literate, they had a name for this,
asciilifeform: he could give a good gift to folks, matchbox that when pushed tells you:
asciilifeform: he hands me a matchbox.
asciilifeform: he said 'i will give you a gift! a real computer!'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i was a small boy, my elder brother taught me a lesson once: ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it has exactly 0 to do with money, because schoolchildren have no money. it's a thing.
mircea_popescu has found himself, iwthout interruption, in this position for as long as he can remember, which'd be a good three decades by now.
assbot: The Romanian language for other people. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lzWJ9f )
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 17:47:49; asciilifeform: yes, there are folks who are serious chessboxers. but for some reason i've never heard of such a fella winning a world chess OR boxing title.
mircea_popescu: "<amount> is a real and is rounded to the nearest 0.00000001\n"
thestringpuller: reminds me of a young lincoln
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hey, is this a documented openssl hole ? seems it could be useful. << found this, seems like the opposite tho: http://marc.info/?l=openssl-dev&m=122520520421616
mod6: and a pretty lengthy walk. so nb.
mod6: had a nice big breakfast for lunch.
mircea_popescu: hey, is this a documented openssl hole ? seems it could be useful.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> but we're not there yet. so far, prepping a list of magic numbers. <<
mircea_popescu: but we're not there yet. so far, prepping a list of magic numbers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would much like a complete list of boost structures, with analysis.
Terry4: Did you see the strategy about subsiding bitcoin miners to stay on the original BTC, (as a last case scenario to defeat any alt-chain)?
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Royal+Jelly | Royal Jelly. The glorious coating surrounding a cock when it pulls out of an asshole that has not been prelubed. The asshole has created a natural lubricant that ...
asciilifeform: hey i knew a few.
asciilifeform: one comes to mind, who hired germans to build him a mustard gas factory
asciilifeform: i suppose herr ceausescu would be a counter-example
asciilifeform: (and iirc he was a pretty good one)
asciilifeform: at any rate, it is perfectly safe for a king to entertain himself by being a blacksmith, or a sailor - as peter the great did
mircea_popescu: and a coupla whorses.
mircea_popescu: and the idea is inept. yes i know a lot of "respectable folk". i also know a lot of common whores. and everything in between.
asciilifeform: but in all seriousness, clever folk who strike gold in whatever form, who programmed, tend to gravitate away from it - iirc mthreat is doing a sane thing, flying old ru jets, rather than dredging through cpp crud
asciilifeform: and tends to break in ways not covered by warranty, as a whole, if fails to perform it
asciilifeform: the woman, on the whole, has a biological role
mircea_popescu: still a dead end. exactly equivalent with soviet woman's conclusion that getting married is an exercise in insanity.
asciilifeform: it is a hypothesis with much predictive power, and is not altogether different from aristotle's position on whether kings ought to learn blacksmithing
mircea_popescu: "learning to program is a fundamentally insane act."
mircea_popescu: your arguments exactly mirror a broken version of reality pushed forth by overgrown girls that are yet affraid to be women.
mircea_popescu: not so. just like fucking isn't a fundamentally insane act.
asciilifeform: i suspect that learning to program is a fundamentally insane act.
mircea_popescu: that you're making up stories. for a captive audience that's easy to please.