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mircea_popescu: at any rate,
the only possible moves here seem
to be a) phf see if
the airline is willing
to
take a ~100 kgs as cargo ; b) BingoBoingo DO
THE RESEARCH
tonight, as
to b.1) EXACTLY, ~absolutely~ exactly what parts do you actually need and b.2) list of places you could conceivably get it at
there, whatever shops.
then
tomorrow starting 8am you go check all of
those. no words, be shown
the physical item.
BingoBoingo: The plug
that goes into
the power supply is
the same
that goes into
the PDU
mircea_popescu: it's only available on some lines
though, eg
that aren't already overloaded with girly underpants.
phf: i.e. you pack it in a box (300kg max, 70kg each individual box), weigh and measure it, send
them a quote. i don't know what
the specific prices are
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> do
they ? eat on own power, i mean. or does somebody fill
their bowl with kibble, like in argentina <<
They afford
to farm on Brazillian
tourists money. How
they have
the ability
to get from
there
to lifting
the fork into
their mouths I have increasingly less idea.
BingoBoingo: In a country
that is only avoiding starvation because
the Brazilians like doing
the Cannabis
tourism
thing.
BingoBoingo: been
trying
to find and screen locals
that might be useful for anything while staying somewhat sane.
BingoBoingo: They have empty cabinets on casters ready
to go.
They have C13 plugs on
the power distribution units. I failed
to anticipate
the hell
that would be getting formed sheet metal here. I have apparently not been doing enough investigation into
these basic questions. And
the quote came late enough
that I am probably not going
to know until
tomorrow if any of
the local vendors
that just now stated
talking are going
to keep doing it. I have
mircea_popescu: even if sane chassis were
to be found, you can't find weightless power supplies (why exactly
the rack provides 220V rather
than directly rail is a question for another
time ; and why
this was't raised as a point at any previous
time.) and
there's simply no way i can have phf drag 50+ kgs of ~worthless parts across
the oceans.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im
tell you i'm deeply nonplussed
that i discover you can't actually rack anything in
the dc you reported walked
through after renting it and
the very fucking day i'm supposed
to start ordering parts.
mircea_popescu: (the power supply is like 3kgs, and
that's not fucking avoidable)
mircea_popescu: !~google snatch "heavy is good... heavy is reliable... if
the dc is manned by idiots you can always hit
them with it..."
mircea_popescu: dude how fucking long have i been asleep whjat
the fuck is
this never in my life have i held a mount chassis
this heavy ever.
phf: "It's worth mentioning
that out of
the 4 of
these I've purchased so far, I got one for which
the front USB ports are shorted and kill USB devices you plug into it. I lost
two flash drives before realizing
this was
the problem. " second product, lulz.
thought
that's like random factor in cheap chinese shit
phf: "A rack mount case should fit in a standard 19" EIA rack.
They call it a 19" rack for a reason. It's not a 19 1/4" rack.
The edge of
this case's ears are 19 1/4", had
to grind
them
to fit my rack. Also one EIA space..."
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you have weight specs for either of
these ?
trinque: phf's "shit, didn't overcharge enough for
the rack" hypothesis is pretty plausible.
mircea_popescu: hard
to believe uruguayan people manage
to somehow eat, by now.
phf: i mean,
the question is how much ~i~ can carry, vs. how costly it's going
to rapidly become
mircea_popescu: anyway BingoBoingo do not omit
to point
to
the monkeys
that
they're now
the laughingstock of
the internet as
the ~only "datacenter" in
the world
that doesn't have enough sense
to stock a pile of mounts for
the customers.
mircea_popescu: i see.
the bitch with
the rack mounts is
that
they're heavy.
phf: it's a vacation spot, all
the recommendations people send my way involve beaches, bitches and hot springs. i don't see why i should pack anything more
than a pair of shorts
phf: 23kg
two bags, each extra 11kg extra $100; obviously more packed -- higher chance of structural damage.
mircea_popescu: seems
to me
the man without a spare in
the
trunk is also not going
to have an engine in working order.
mircea_popescu: if
they don'\t have rackmounts, why exactly am i
to believe
they have, eg, generators.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 22:56 phf: so
there's
two points here, one is
that you're opening yourself up for extortion commonly known as "valet service"
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782932 <<
the only point
to my eyes is
that someone fucked in
the head enough
to run something
they call "datacenter" without one
ton of spare racks laying about is not distinguishable from
three
twelve year old white boys in a "tree fort" running a "porn business"
through
taking complicatedly filtered ipad shots of
their own palms.
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: phf what's your guess as
to your weight limit ? 20 ? 30 ? 50 ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, pick an item from
the actual suppliers lessee.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 22:33
trinque: stocks down, bond yields up, and meanwhile congress just passed some gigantic expansion of
the budget
mircea_popescu: "“Walking into a building should not be any different based on income status,” Ms. Glen said in an interview." << inept pantsuit wank.
the only way poor people walk into a human building is as long as
they're female, before
their 30th birthday and if
they have enough sense not
to put clothes on. what
the everloving fuck is
this,
they're people now,
the poor fucks ?!
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 21:56 phf: ben_vulpes: nah, actually a swanky highrise. it's some kind of social program where
they rent $3000 apartments
to special needs kids, i suspect with some kind of discount--tax break deal
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 21:49 phf: weirdest
things get stock in memory..
mircea_popescu: by
the
time
they advertise
that sorta dumb shit, you know it belongs in
the furnace.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 21:13 ben_vulpes: it's what you get for picking
things based on "it was written by a queer person of color" rather
than "it is actually good"
phf: you also could for example look at
the gestalt of
the dynamic process. rack and connectivity is
their walk in bread and butter.
they probably overcharged you, but not by much, because it was
their first interaction with you. meanwhile dynamic process evolves.
they are probably sad now
that
they didn't overcharge you more for rack, compensating on hardware (that's another alternative
take on what's going on)
phf: "all i know" is a poor stance
to
take in a situation
that requires
tactical
thinking
phf: so
the combination of
those
two points is
that it's possible
that dc knows about full overhead of import +
they charge you for valet. considering
that you're a ~random dude~ dropping serious cash on
their server rack
that is of right now entirely empty, it's safe for
them
to assume
that you have mad american cash burning yer pockets
phf: other point is
that since we've never actually
tried importing anything into uruguay
that "+ local import specifics" might
translate into extortion on
the border (which, say, was sop in russia in
the 90s)
phf: so
there's
two points here, one is
that you're opening yourself up for extortion commonly known as "valet service"
☟︎ phf: i'm not sure what
the
thinking is, but
they can't really do anything
that you can't do, as far as importing hardware. literally
they'll have
to do all
the same steps + potentially navigating local import specifics
BingoBoingo: Still, I present "here is an emergency" Let's work
through
this. In
the most charitable interpretation
they decide
to do what
the PUA's call a shit
test. In
the most likely case an attempt at extortion. I was expecting "This pile costs X in lands with commerce, duties customs etc cost X, and
transport costs Y depending on how fast we get it here."
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 14:51 phf: in fact my bed&briekfast guy is very much "an old dutch moves
to an indian village": "license costs 300rs, but
they found another irregularity so i have
to pay 10'000rs fee"
trinque: ah I was reacting
to
the blog post
BingoBoingo: <trinque> BingoBoingo: good luck buddy, and don't let it piss you off <<
This wasn't a euphamism. Actual spanish lesson with
the Venezolana dentist
turned
teacher.
BingoBoingo: !~later
tell mircea_popescu
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6TNbp/?raw=true The whole email
thread from
this morning
through
their suggesting desktop power supplies
to go with rackmount cases
to my polite suggestion
the numbers and
timeline aren't acceptable. Fuck me, and fuck
these monkeys with
their SHHHH SHHH sounds. Fucking monkeys just have
turned operation "Make BingoBoingo rich 2018" into a clusterfuck by entertaining
the "Let's
trinque: stocks down, bond yields up, and meanwhile congress just passed some gigantic expansion of
the budget
☟︎ ben_vulpes: how about
this us stock market blowoff: 9% loss in less
than a month! stocks clearly
too volatile
to be worth anything as grownup investments.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 01:18 mp_en_viaje: yeee. keep your cool, most common moment for
things
to be fucked up is upon first success.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo ahahaa 6.6 grand pre
their derpy
tax for mounts ? << Before
the 22% VAT no less
phf: would defeat
the whole purpose, you want it
to be conspicuous
ben_vulpes: exactly
the "get another car"
thing mircea_popescu described
ben_vulpes: "it was not evident at
the
time
the nuances of where
the doors would be" har har har
phf: ben_vulpes: nah, actually a swanky highrise. it's some kind of social program where
they rent $3000 apartments
to special needs kids, i suspect with some kind of discount--tax break deal
☟︎ trinque: kinda explains why a relation did so well on his way into an airline's
training dept, only
to promptly leave
the job once had.
ben_vulpes: what kind of building was
this phf, school?
phf: of course when
they crash, it's always
the sane guy's fault, "technical failure"
phf: i can see
that,
they always have
two pilots on commercial lines, so
they'll just stick
the
two
together, and it's an unwritten rule
that
the sane guy has
to stay vigilant for
the duration of
the whole flight, but he can't say it, because he'll get fired.
phf: weirdest
things get stock in memory..
☟︎ phf: in america
they like
to put "special kids" into building with normal people, and
there was a retard kid in one of
the buildings i lived in, every
time he saw a helicopter he'd start yelling "belly bopter! belly bopter!"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-31 14:34 mp_en_viaje: so no, protected mode hasn;'t become because it offered.
the pantsuit decided it must be, and
therefore prevented
the non-mongoloid child from offering.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 20:40
trinque: PRETTY FUCKIN CONVENIENT ISN'T IT
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 20:37 phf: gcc is unsafe, and
this is all about making web safer for everyone.
mircea_popescu: my opinion is why
the fuck am i working with
these retardsa.
mircea_popescu: get
the everloving fuck out of
this planed, what
the fuck is
this.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ahahaa 6.6 grand pre
their derpy
tax for mounts ?
phf: i suspect
the easter european equivalent would be andrzey sapkowski
ben_vulpes: i was infected by
that one as an actual child
phf: i've not really heard about jordan until i came
to u.s., and
then from
the usual suspects, so i didn't feel inclined
to read him
ben_vulpes: and just
to purge
the queue, also read
the last few books in
the robert jordan and friends and children series and yup it ends exactly as you'd imagine good guys win bad guys get locked up for another eternity until
the cycle starts all over again millenia hence
ben_vulpes: i muchly prefer
the manly men doing manly stabbings and gambling and whoring
tyvm
phf: well, it's a slashfiction fiction slash. i've picked up a few "scifi" books and it all goes in
that direction somehow
ben_vulpes: it's what you get for picking
things based on "it was written by a queer person of color" rather
than "it is actually good"
☟︎ ben_vulpes: as in actually homoerotic; with gay brotherly incest
thrown in
to boot
ben_vulpes: girl put
this miserable pulp "ninefox gambit" in front of me recently, and i've been bingeing
to get
the
taste out of my mouth
ben_vulpes: dude i just reread hyperion and fall of endymion
too for
the first
time as an adult
ben_vulpes: heh yeah
the chronicles has a flavor very similar
to
that 'heavy metal' set of shorts
phf: syd mead, jean giraud, dan simmons hyperion.
the
tail end of some adaquate boyhood culture
phf: he
the most reminds me of
the kind of
teenage 70s-80s
that i caught only
tail end of, progrock, heavy metal magazine, d&d, church of satan, slew of
those illustrators, like giger
ben_vulpes: lord of light also on
the reread list, i can't actually remember what it was about for
the life of me it's been so long.
phf: though i kind of like his random novels more at
this point, lord of ligh, creates of light and darkness, jack of shadows, etc.
phf: i
think zelazny aged well, but
then i'm biased, i grew up on stuff
phf: i reread chronicles about a year ago, "properly"
this
time by
tracking down
the entire set in pulp