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mircea_popescu: the problem here discussed is when the fucking chickens are shown an impossible object and they cluck right along, "oh, look how great".
mircea_popescu: because the man's brain wasn't rotten by virtuality, and fetishism, and ustardism.
mircea_popescu: phf more fucking importantly, it contains no hidden bits. such as "how did you build the square"
mircea_popescu: "we are the premiere science and technology institution in the world. and we can't light a lightbulb. both of these for the exact same reason - we "learned" from wikipedia, ted talks, and other inept contrivances."
mircea_popescu: wherein to run around like headless chickens. if a headless chicken.
mircea_popescu: this is what your dumbass "modern democracy" aka "human rights" aka "illuminism" aka "usg" aka "eu" aka "western civilisation" aka dumb shit is doing for you : gives you a pen.
mircea_popescu: no but really. "given the circle cvadrature, isn't this escherian trestlework ever so informative ?"
mircea_popescu: "oh, with provided premeasured tools this table is just long enough" hurr.
mircea_popescu: e truthiness and just follow the hand", such pinnacle of achievement in imbecility, and try to fucking draw the outer square yourself.
☟︎ mircea_popescu:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160917/#348 << it's entirely unclear to me why you think the hieroglyph is noteworthy. sure, in the context of "let's draw hyeroglyphs", it's as good as many other alternatives. in the context of "let's describe basic trigonometry", it's not particularly useful. and you'll realise this the moment you break out of tedtalktardism "i'll rely on the margins of the box as drawn by magic hand for absolut
mircea_popescu: he doesn't have a toolbox ; but he does have all the convenience of convenience stores!
mircea_popescu: and also that "enemy will decrypt your disk and fuck you"
mircea_popescu: though if you re-read, that objection was there, unexpressed.
mircea_popescu: so apparently every saturday is "mp can't process logs" day.
mircea_popescu: see, but this isn't supposed to be a comparison of fucking emotional states.
mircea_popescu: just pointing out that without the exact formula described, knowledge's not terribly useful, and deifnitely not well communciable.
mircea_popescu: learn to document in that format because else we're stuck redoing your work while you sadly cry on the side.
mircea_popescu: ng alternative I encountered explicit block N which etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was looking for something stictly in the following formula : as part of trying to execute subset X of task Y part of recognizable-primitive Z because so-and so, i came to the method k for theoretical reasons t1 throiugh tn ; attempting to implement it i encountered situation Q even through this makes no sense ; trying to adapt it i encountered exception Q.e1 which is contrary to design philosophy, and attempti
mircea_popescu: you documented any of these somewhere, so phf doesn't need to do himself ?
mircea_popescu: d per se. except in the benefit that its checks will progress this much faster.
mircea_popescu: in lisp as discussed here, and generally, a lot of checks are to be performed. this happens to jive well with a matrix calling system for functions and the muiticore design of cpu. because you as lisp will just a) maintain a matrix of all checks to be perfromed as functions and b) keep them permagoing on all processorss. so this way, the cpu count influences internal parallelism in the os, and thus os speed ; not program spee
mircea_popescu: in c, no checks are performed and you're welcome to go fuck yourself. consequently, c exposes internals of cpu to user, so as to better hang himself. as seen eg in case of eulora client usage of one core and a trillion other places.
mircea_popescu: yea, this is a nutty point, so let me write it out in detail.
mircea_popescu: in short, unwittingly perhaps, the extant x86 architecture ACTUALLY FAVOURS running a lisp machine over running a c machine.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so good for you! none of this is any sort of genius, just systematic refusal of dumbassery.
mircea_popescu: phf imagine if you will, the beauty of a system where "threads" make no sense in the first place.
mircea_popescu: ie, "this our lisp os only works on processors with no less than 8 cores. because we keep all these things pre-loaded and ready to go, and then every time you try to add we do 16 checks in one tick. one op mujlti data ftw!!1"
mircea_popescu: if you're not dumb you probably implement matrix-calls for functions.
mircea_popescu: intrinsic addable-value far exceeds, yes, which is why we're even talking.
mircea_popescu: but because you can read it, you get to see vendor magic numbers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform those are not disadvantages but advantages.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the tasks are here in my vierws overstated. linux had the tasks as hard as described, and it did break through, on shittier internet with fewer people milling about. lisp already has c code it can read for many of the drivers etc. this is major advantage. easier job to come 2nd.
mircea_popescu: make a third, but in this direction, not in that, if you will.
mircea_popescu: be all this as it may, time to grow up and stop pretending adult lisp is anything but these two.
mircea_popescu: you apparently don't recall early linux worth twopence.
mircea_popescu: so then it seems to be that it is an offense before the gods and an insult to man when in any discussion of lisp anyone proposes any other solution than "pick either movitz or mezzano"
mircea_popescu: i mean, is there some fundamental reason such can't be written ? that's a problem. otherwise...
mircea_popescu: that's also the reason steam engine wasn't done by greeks.
mircea_popescu: tell you what : the hardware's the hardware and the software's the shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but you also realised the hardware was shit that time we went to olympus and venus asked you to fuck her.
mircea_popescu: linux happened in a few years, need i remind you, and those were earlier, drier years.
mircea_popescu: so then for shame, all these dickheads going around holding their heads in their hands and talking about dumb shit while doing no useful work.
mircea_popescu: now, x86 i can already buy, which of tll, lelnel don't exist and what's the excuse.
mircea_popescu: there's the following parts : hardware, including memory, cpu, disk etc. we shall call this x86 for short, even if it's a longer story ; tll, which is a compiler. does exactly same as the gcc does in linux : takes lisp code, spits out bytecode ; and finally the lelnel, which does what the kernel does in linux.
mircea_popescu: holy hell! the processor takes opcodes. you produce the opcodes. that's it!
mircea_popescu: the whole point of stupid, yes, "let's make ada work in php!"
mircea_popescu: suppose for this discussion it's already started ; else yes, you need a running machine to compile your image as we said.