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polarbeard: BingoBoingo knows what happened, I sent him a log
polarbeard: do I need a domain name to contribute code?
BingoBoingo: polarbeard: But you don't own that url in even the pretend sense of having a domain name
polarbeard: ok, I have a blog on https://gist.github.com/polarbeard
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mircea_popescu: http://misionesonline.net/2016/01/24/obera-un-policia-atropello-a-un-motociclista-lo-mato-y-luego-se-suicido/
BingoBoingo: polarbeard: Your best bet is likely starting a blog and putting things you might eventually submit there
mod6: polarbeard: perhaps not. but wot & signing patches is based on trust. you must have a positive rating from members for patches to be accepted.
mod6: polarbeard is punindented, i very much appreciate his offer of help to work on the R.I. but this is a non-starter until ben and polarbeard/punindented reconcile their differences.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> i was even under the impression that the eulora build process was microshit-free << how are you going to make a windows binary "microshit-free" ?
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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> just imagine a box where you can't pop a shell & grep << iirc they eventually got a grep in windows too
asciilifeform: i will develop ~for~ nintendo, if the money is right. but no amount of money is pay enough for developing ON a nintendo.
thestringpuller: that's like middle school shit. "Sally thinks you're a bitch"
asciilifeform: (you can cross-compile trivially, and gcc gives 10x the compactness of vs crud. just treat the box as a kind of nintendo.)
asciilifeform: i would much rather trade the computer for a pencil.
thestringpuller: The only people who got anything done around there was DevOps who had a strict (Run linux)
asciilifeform: just imagine a box where you can't pop a shell & grep
thestringpuller: Working on a winblowz box is the worst experience ever. I did so for 1.5 years writing JBoss web applets. Everyone thought "Oh you can run the dev environment in windows, well you're crazy. THIS IS HOW THE WORLD WORKS" to which I would revolt saying, "Your development process is insane which is why you spent 2.5 mil bringing in AGILE consultants to reduce your bottom line, which didn't fix any of the real problems."
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i can work on an apple box, with a good bit of sweat. i cannot work on a winblowz box.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: people did that, it was called a commodore64
asciilifeform: but you can work on it, yes. just as you could probably solder a keyboard to a nintendo and work on that.
BingoBoingo: But really choosing a web host is a serious optimization problem.
asciilifeform: and the effort required to set it up for any kind of serious work vastly exceeds the effort used to set up a gentoo box
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it is a complete piece of shit
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: Darwin isn't a complete piece of shit eh? So Apple > Winblows or is this like comparing two bowls of shit and asking which one is less nutty.
mircea_popescu: fancy that coincidence, i just had a pile of sushi myself.
danielpbarron: i'll look into it when i get back to real computer; i'm at a sushi bar atm
mircea_popescu: just a simple "isis finally moving to pgp, like b-a/alf/mp said they should. usg petrified about actual, strong cryptography - as opposed to the ecc and assorted shit they peddle - being deployed by those opposing its reign of terror"
mircea_popescu: if you feel like making a qntra out of it all..
danielpbarron: i was gonna ask BingoBoingo what he uses; i'm tryin to get a blog up as well
LquidNinjaAssets: It doesn't really matter, I was just looking for some #b-a advice on who to use as a hosting service if I wanted to start a no frills blog...
danielpbarron: >> Holy crap, opening from latest official (Al-Hayat) ISIS video is the decryption of a PGP message.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 19:29:50; mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> did anyone ever do a static compilation libkez? << there's room for one.
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punkman: myeah, and if you need to archive a lot of logs, can always convert to denser binary format
punkman: but can be a hassle
polarbeard: is a symptom of basically being 'too clever'
ben_vulpes: what a deal, jurov!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "About a week ago, this pretty girl messages me out of the blue and we hit it off. We talked that night up until 5 AM and we have so much things in common. > She loves Star Wars > Plays video games > All other super nerdy shit > Never met a girl like that" << holy shit, this "all that much" evaluates to almost 0. wtf is wrong with people. << It's like the redditor version of my foray into fiction
mircea_popescu: and the problem now dawns : nobody gives a shit's ass what you do to your emacs
ben_vulpes: usg has a plenty strong relationship with me, lol
mircea_popescu: whereas you have nfi how "a bride" should go. fuck you know.
mircea_popescu: but think about it. suppose i loan you one of my slavegirls, and you bring her back, except you bring me back a different woman.
ben_vulpes is having a 'not enough lsd' moment
mircea_popescu: how would you know you got a DIFFERENT one ?
mircea_popescu: mkay, let's take something else. why does buying a russian bride online suck ?
ben_vulpes: a glib answer'd be "because steve died", a more pragmatic one "because they don't compile the bitcoin reference implementation", but i don't think either of those are what you're thinking.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> did anyone ever do a static compilation libkez? << there's room for one. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 15:19:27; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384035 << this is lulzy in re: how i recently had to set up a complete orchestra on an apple box
ben_vulpes: did anyone ever do a static compilation libkez?
punkman: gribble's nethash reads from this http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-3D.txt , in case anyone wants to run a script
mircea_popescu: polarbeard "I'd get it one piece at a time. And it wouldn't cost me a dime..."
asciilifeform: i thought the stereotypical whoredom is to go, at the drop of a hat, to where it smells of moar money ?!
asciilifeform: originally i thought that it would have to be a gentoo vm, but turns out that one can actually build a genuine toolchain there ! and it runs...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i personally don't. there's a common disease of whores (and no, programmers aren't fundamentally anything else). it manifests like so : should a wolf find a delicious morsel, it will neglect it oft to the point of just letting it sit while it draws a perimeter around and inspects for whence it came for and MOAR. meanwhile, a mouse that found a morsel will grab it and run, never to return.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 07:46:51; ben_vulpes: it is weekends like this that make me reconsider how i spent my youth as a misspend, when i see trinque and asciilifeform with usable professional non apple toolchains
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384035 << this is lulzy in re: how i recently had to set up a complete orchestra on an apple box ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 00:05:24; danielpbarron: >> me: the universe does not guarantee a solution to things that humans perceive as problems. << personification of 'universe' to replace God
asciilifeform: thing is, at least the way i understood it, the whole ~point~ of openbsd was as a fortress against poetteringization. and it appears to be in ruins, based on above
asciilifeform: if he wants to maintain a parallel universe, and it doesn't in any serious way inconvenience the actual universe, i will say only kind things.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384135 << i have an openbsd box. but i haven't booted it in over a year, and can't bring myself to. because it is FUCKING LOATHESOME: ☝︎
mircea_popescu: predictive value of a half eaten linseed.
mircea_popescu: "she would never take a left on west 83rd at 6pm on a tuesday. i know this on the basis of her $word starwars."
asciilifeform: perhaps she had the face of a human, rather than ruminant, nfi ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "About a week ago, this pretty girl messages me out of the blue and we hit it off. We talked that night up until 5 AM and we have so much things in common. > She loves Star Wars > Plays video games > All other super nerdy shit > Never met a girl like that" << holy shit, this "all that much" evaluates to almost 0. wtf is wrong with people. ☟︎
punkman: "As FSF GCC died a silent death from malnutrition, both were (formally) reunited as of version 2.95 in April 1999.  With a simple renaming trick, egcs became gcc now and formally the split was over"
phf: ben_vulpes: of course, that bsd patch doesn't stand in isolation. it was produced at a certain time, was since used by several people to build a version. but there's nothing to sign, because there's only pre-v patch
phf: everything else in there is either cross platform clarification or straight up an #ifdef. it's a tiny ass patch, if it doesn't build on rotor, linux, etc. it's a bug in a patch
phf: the ~only~ "script" aspect of the patch is "-Wl,--whole-archive -lpthread -Wl,--no-whole-archive" which is a cross platform gcc argument that ensure that pthread is truly fully statically linked into bitcoind. the issue that some parts of it don't appear consistently with openbsd gcc ~and also on some of the linux gcc versions~. fucking says so in the original email
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 02:26:40; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383446 << wait, explain this to me ? << the idea is that our makefiles, or whatever build scripts will utilize V to build inside of the rotor (a linux thing) - the source must be compatable with that. phf's openbsd scripts are not compatible with this.
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383814 had a few threads http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1316722 ☝︎☝︎
punkman: well that was a lot of log
BingoBoingo: "Maybe we aren't seeing heaven because one of us is a J-O-O" -Eric Cartman
phf: mircea_popescu: ok, so i wouldn't say not welcome, but since neither patch was given a courtesy of a smooth transition, i assumed that neither are seen as particularly important. спасение утопающих дело рук самих утопающих (tm) (r)
phf: basically the patch being dropped created bunch of work for me, that i don't have bandwidth to pursue. (i.e. produce a v version, test on stator)
phf: one of the features of the openbsd patch is that it should build cleanly on linux, i.e. naive build or a stator build. i did a naive build that work, while i was developing, but since i assume it was not included in stator i can't speak to that.
pete_dushenski: that being said, i've always thought that version numbers should "roll over" at a certain point. not like mac os8 went 43372 sub-versions before macos 9 showed up. eh. i guess it really doesn't matter.
mircea_popescu: in random good unix news : shuf -n 1 $file will pop out a random line from that file.
ben_vulpes: still trying to get the hang of the m1a1, very much adrift in the cockpit of a warthog.
ben_vulpes: phf: i have a hunch that it was my boost compiles that were failing.
phf: when it was written and submitted it applied cleanly to the tree. to my knowledge it doesn't interfere with stator build. in fact the whole point of patch is to make minimally intrusive changes to source so that interested parties don't have to track down silly issues when attempting a build on their own. it's my understanding that the patch was simply dropped during v-ification, so of course now it doesn't in any way fits into
phf: openbsd patch as written results in a working build on both linux and openbsd. it introduces necessary ifdefs to ensure cross platform support. the only change that it does to makefile is, at least according to my research, is necessary with some versions of gcc, rather then openbsd specific (has to do with static linking of pthread). without that change build ~can~ produce broken static bitcoind on both openbsd and linux. at the time
ben_vulpes: pick a side i said.
ben_vulpes: it is weekends like this that make me reconsider how i spent my youth as a misspend, when i see trinque and asciilifeform with usable professional non apple toolchains ☟︎
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i tried 14 for a few days. couldn't believe how laggy it was. haven't tried 10 (or whatever the b-a approved one was)
ben_vulpes: guruvan: i am not running my primary os in a container, thank you very much.
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guruvan: ben_vulpes: just get you a boot2docker, and then run whatever the hell you want - use the OSX like a hypervisor :D
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: that's a thoroughly frightening prospect.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383805 << i saw 2+ gb just from a couple of failed trb build attempts. it was like 2.7 gigs iirc. "bitcoin is not for the poor (who can't afford hd space)" (tm) (r) ☝︎
pete_dushenski: i don't think anything drove me more nutso when using 10.8 than the inability to find a file in a folder you ~just~ placed it in moments earlier.
pete_dushenski: it's wild how much more organised 10.6 is than 10.8. the latter ~always~ bunged up dates. when trying to organise a folder by "date modified", the latest documents would almost invariably end up in their own speshul sub-heading waaay at the bottom of the list under "no date". but then once in a while, not. for whatever reason.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383609 << in my own aforementioned article. thankfully, archive.is has a pretty healthy stock of tlp. (not that i found any other broken links there lately) ☝︎
ben_vulpes: after five reboots in a row it just gives up!
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i think those shit-spreaders were less of a 'freegan' and more of a 'let's see what it's like to be derpizens of the great nation of afrika'. fwiw.
pete_dushenski: alf has a copy ready and waiting. nib.
ben_vulpes: put gentoo in a vm for building ri's
ben_vulpes: either that or i'm living a week in the future somehow
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