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deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-ladies-man/ << Trilema - The Ladies Man
mod6: at midnight tonight, one whole day will have gone by.
mod6: asciilifeform: Started that perf test lastnight @ about 12am. should take ~2.7 days to complete.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/dead-maze-the-game/ << Trilema - Dead Maze, the game
ben_vulpes: neat shit trinque
mod6: jurov: We're working out the details on that. Good question though. ☟︎
jurov: Aaand, how actually the BISP deal works? Is the Foundation now owner?
jurov: any other urgent demands on Teh Treasury?
BingoBoingo: And irony of monkey fucking ironies. Guess who has a local bank account today. BRB, tengo una leccion de Español (not a euphamism).
jurov: I'm ready to do it now
ben_vulpes: we can run it async, just paste him the deets encrypted
mod6: Probably will have to wait until tomorrow for Jurov to make the actual tx since it's probably getting late there for him.
ben_vulpes: jurov will then send the exact quoted amount to that addr and bob's your aunt we should be fine
mod6: Alright. I can do that a bit later.
ben_vulpes: mod6: run !!deposit 3.3 , decrypt it and send the results to jurov
mod6: ben_vulpes: I probably can later indeed. I've never used this before, need trinque to help here.
ben_vulpes: jurov: hang on, deposit to mod6's account
jurov: I know Bingo's 1Ewe... addy but he best confirm he still has the privkey
ben_vulpes: mod6: if you make a deposit call, can you give jurov the address and amount to send?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 17:58 ben_vulpes: hey would you be so kind as to push 3.3 btc of foundation funds to mod6's deedbot account?
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783949 << I think if you can somehow get it into my account, then I can have whomever invoice me or what not. ☝︎
jurov: Perhaps i can send to BB's address directly? I don't like mixing up foundations funds with my own deedbot wallet anyway.
jurov: Or I must deposit to my wallet first?
mod6: I'm not sure if I need to setup anything for my deedbot acct.
jurov: Hello. Looking up how to obtain BB's address.
lobbesbot: jurov: Sent 1 day, 0 hours, and 6 minutes ago: <lobbes> plox to ping mod6 once ya get the chance
mod6: trinque: do I need to do anything to get setup for jurov's tx to my deedbot acct? I've never set it up ...
mod6: The band is all back together!
asciilifeform: relatedly i burned much time on graphics-generators but in the end threw all out, ended up writing ch10's physical diagrams in ordinary htm
asciilifeform: think back to the 'commonlisp vs scheme' wars.
asciilifeform: ( but trick is, simple ~when seen as a whole~, rather than 'html-simple' where the building block is simply very dumb and to do anything even slightly complicated on it, requires herculean effort )
trinque: I think simple's right.
trinque: there's also the interesting question of what wot ratings look like in a gossipd world. yes, I will still warehouse my repository of wot data, but I'd also be happy to chatter ratings to other nodes.
asciilifeform: ( there was an old mp thread tho, about this, where he convincingly argued that only live people matter in re ratings )
trinque: can keep the historic key too and tell the grandkids remember when
asciilifeform: well the friends who still live.
trinque: if not, what was the point of the rating? a merit badge?
trinque: indeed. and moving them to another meaningless. your friends like you, they'll rate you again.
asciilifeform: it seems to me to be The Right Thing
trinque: I'm clearly leaning towards that they rate keys, yes
asciilifeform: ( i.e. the pov that nick is merely a convenient method of referring to a key . )
asciilifeform: trinque: consider one possible cut of the knot : people to rate moduli, not nicks
trinque: I am now damned to manage every exception
trinque: I think when you start enumerating those kinds of cases, there are many, and it's the sort of systemd hair we're familiar with.
trinque: TomServo: how will folks that rated you under one nick and key know that I (hypothetically) moved your ratings to another nick and key
trinque: that's what "open that up to the forum" means
asciilifeform: i for one intend to retire the modulus i made on kochian prng.
trinque: TomServo: not saying people are expected to do any particular thing yet
trinque: I pgpdump the db and extract them on my end, seamless transition
trinque: oughta be able to import parameters neh?
TomServo: exception goes away, meaning folks are generally expected to make a new key when P exists?
trinque: it's what the meaning of holding a particular key is.
trinque: isn't the labor involved
asciilifeform: trinque: imho it would be reasonable for you to charge something, for the labour of modulus swap
trinque: undermines that you are *THAT MODULUS*
trinque: and I'm dim on wanting to make that a "feature"
trinque: they're not of the same form though; this is "trinque is now trusted to do arbitrary swaps between keys and ratings"
trinque: TomServo: I have so far made an exception for the fig-leaf expiration field, with the understanding that this exception goes away when P
asciilifeform: no fewer than 3 times submitted 'updated' gpg pub with new date ( finally got tired of this, put in a null date )
asciilifeform: TomServo: i still have same modulus as when first tuned in
trinque: well, I open that up to the forum. they rated "TomServo" with key K1. TomServo comes along and demonstrates to me that he controls both K1 and K2, and wants to transfer ratings to K2 under $newNick.
TomServo: ben_vulpes: Surprised this has not been done. I'll add to the (geological!) list.
TomServo: I think a new key is neccessary in my case and figured if changing nicks, that'd be the time.
asciilifeform: fwiw i never felt any urge to change nick. it is short enuff and if someone laughs at it it does me no harm. i sign my posts with human name fwiw.
trinque: wise folks will pick both a nick and key they can live with.
trinque: and the volume of these does not merit automation, and there are significant downsides to automating it.
trinque: there is no process for changing the key-nick relationship other than asking me pretty please
ben_vulpes: TomServo: not saying no benefit, would actually be a great thing to do and write up: "so you want to fuckgoats your gpg"
lobbes: So I guess only "breakage" here would be in log only, which wouldn't be a breakage at all to those paying attention
lobbes: For some reason I had the delusion that handle and key were inexorably linked in deedbot. I stand corrected
TomServo: That would be my preference, but if you're telling me there is no benefit in it, I wouldn't bother.
ben_vulpes: what do *you* prefer, TomServo
TomServo: ben_vulpes: I'm talking about changing my irc handle, such as yourself.
ben_vulpes: TomServo: you're talking about updating the nonsense "name" field on your kochrsa key?
TomServo: lobbes: Continuity break? As I understood there was a (perhaps annoying to trinque) process for renewing keys.
lobbes: Can always just state realname in logs/blog and point to it when asked. (speaking of which, I realize I never have done this. So, for the logs, my real name is Eric Benevides)
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 17:37 TomServo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783810 << Coincidentally, this is my real name, aha. Which is also on the list, getting new key under real name.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783926 <<  I'd say this one is more of a personal preference. I guess if you're going to start fresh now would be a good time, but personally I've never seen  "handle=realname" as so important as to warrant breaking wot continuity. ☝︎
jurov_moving: Yes, will try to get to my wallet asap. Please make signed request, btw.
ben_vulpes: hey would you be so kind as to push 3.3 btc of foundation funds to mod6's deedbot account? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: what a time to be alive
jurov_moving: Bought a house for btc back in october, this week we're finally moving.
asciilifeform: dare i to ask, where'ya moving to, jurov_moving , and from where ?
asciilifeform: and additionally if he wants FGs in the 2, how many in each ( the max that fits comfortably is 2 ) , and they must then be subtracted from the inventory.
ben_vulpes: so asciilifeform you see why i'm advertising the slot?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you ordered these boxes from asciilifeform and then threw hands up over the whole thing; still want them disked and racked any preference on which?
ben_vulpes: well you've got the 1 machine that's ready to ship right now, dulap yhes? and then of the 2 remaining diskless gotta a) get disk in 'em and b) get mircea_popescu to okay their installation
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this 1 slot, this is after 2 (of 3 queued) snsa crates ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: also hilarious was the wank in pantsuit news recently about omfg nk made so much money evading sanctions and who would evade sanctions!
ben_vulpes: i have one 1U slot open in my next courier run to .uy, if anyone wants their machine couriered down speak NOW or i'm going to fill it with a box of my choice ☟︎
asciilifeform: '...institutionalized money laundering as a pillar of the bank’s business practices. Illicit financial activity at the bank includes transactions for parties connected to UN-designated entities, some of which are involved in North Korea...' etc etc
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:49 mircea_popescu: yet i can't tell him from adam.
TomServo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783810 << Coincidentally, this is my real name, aha. Which is also on the list, getting new key under real name. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783483 << the correct approach is to make up for lost time by helping us become familiar with you (in the sense of your history -- there is no other you than what you do).
TomServo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783801 << Understood. Blog is on the short list. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:27 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes might be able to supply middle management if he takes an active interest in this venture. But as per http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/13/a-summary-of-bbisp-activity/#comment-114709 I would like to see new management present at least one plan where they envision keeping the corpse warm for a month and pulling the plug if they find it unfeasible in a way that allows BingoBoingo to survive in a position no wosre than
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It was the thought behind suggesting ben_vulpes for that role here, after the results of send a Librarian to South America... some decisions probably gotta get more conservative http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783781 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if you're a smart guy, you just use this to prop castle ben_vulpes into existence. you two need a place to confer, and it doesn't properly belong here unless there's some kind of larger problem, so for day to day ops... you gotr a fodder.
ben_vulpes: but i dunno about that
ben_vulpes: ave1 seems to think i'll need a new key