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asciilifeform: i'm not certain this circus actually soaks up their time
mircea_popescu: none that i can see
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i guess heh.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 21:09:10; mircea_popescu: " any increase in return that’s attributable merely to an improvement in the local stock market;" << i wish to know on what planet these people live where there's "local" stock markets.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1352438 << was precisely what i meant. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 20:58:03; mod6: well, i thought we didn't want to send up all farts into the blockchain.
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1352462 <<< I don't like clutter, but if it pisses Luke-Jr off so much the better. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: " any increase in return that’s attributable merely to an improvement in the local stock market;" << i wish to know on what planet these people live where there's "local" stock markets. ☟︎
mod6: i make plenty of errors that I don't want to chisel into stone. :]
mod6: well, i thought we didn't want to send up all farts into the blockchain. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 20:19:11; asciilifeform: punkman: i like this patch except imho 1) patches ought to do One Thing 2) printf hardcoded to stdout is Wrong Thing
mod6: yup. no sweat. just wanna stay on top of the V changes, so I can get to the many R.I. things :]
mod6: i'll test a bit as I said and then re-publish a new one when complet.e
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 19:56:44; mod6: mircea_popescu: going back to the .wot dir being created by default in the `pwd` of V : I would think that perhaps .seals should go in the same place as well; `pwd`.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1352330 << i guess. my main concern is that i do not wish to see absolute paths. as long as it puts the stuff somewhere relative to current dir i'm happy. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1352312 << the equivalent i had in mind was their very meticulous document processing technology. ☝︎
mod6: anyway, i'll keep testing on this for a bit and see how it goes. and if all is well, i'll repost the entire thing (including the few changes to the automated tests) to the ML
asciilifeform: (perhaps i missed this)
punkman: I assume those won't end up in debug log
punkman: one thing to watch out for is that I replaced some wxMessageBox(_("Error:") things with fprintf(stderr, "Error:"), which I have no idea why now
asciilifeform: as in, a place where i can go & drop it in
asciilifeform: mod6: i meant on trb www site
asciilifeform: punkman: i like this patch except imho 1) patches ought to do One Thing 2) printf hardcoded to stdout is Wrong Thing ☟︎
asciilifeform: punkman: ah i recall
mod6: ok so i changed the changes: .wot and .seals in the present working directory, unless specified otherwise. Also I've added the checking of the hashes post-press. **EXPERIMENTAL ONLY** Will post new, signed version [v99996] once fully tested.
punkman: asciilifeform: I rewrote and it's there
shinohai: Been a few weeks but I manually created it and added everyones keys, but once I made it everything works fine
mod6: like Mr. P. said, there is no way I'm gonna be able to keep up with all of the feature requests here as well.
mod6: mircea_popescu: going back to the .wot dir being created by default in the `pwd` of V : I would think that perhaps .seals should go in the same place as well; `pwd`. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i never fully understood the reason for this peculiar (and foul smelling! try it) custom
mircea_popescu: after reading that sort of nonsense i half expect the author has some "science" in a jar in his basement
mircea_popescu: punkman i never had a tailor go "breathe in" "now exhale" before.
asciilifeform: i'd rather hear mircea_popescu's hypothesis re: why said machine does not presently exist, first
mircea_popescu: We added a line of jersey basics to our denim line, packed up our lives, ended the lease on our house, loaded our portfolios and patterns into suitcases and boarded a plane for Malaysia, where I had some contacts in the manufacturing industry. At one factory after another, we were wooed by the boss, we got the grand tour, we were asked our volume projections…. and we were shown the door. Our (very inflated) annual fo
mircea_popescu: "So we decided to wholesale, on the condition we could establish a cost-effective supply chain. This might all seem like a juvenile, ill-informed, poorly researched, gamble. And it was mostly, but I heard an irrepressible voice day and night,asking what if it works?
mircea_popescu: *I* could have fucking tell you that.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 14:31:29; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351554 << i will take no part in anything involving java in whatever capacity.
mircea_popescu: s hours, and when I went off to a night job managing a restaurant, she’d code, with Sex and the City for company, until 1 or 2am when I stumbled in again from night shift."
asciilifeform: perhaps one day i will be fortunate enough to crash on an island and eat livers of neighbours and will enjoy it again
mircea_popescu forces slavegirls to eat livers. it's a show, i tell you.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily i loved it as a kid, then did not have it for some years, and now can no longer stand it
mircea_popescu: yup. take chicken liver. i love it. so does everyone who had sane enough parents to have it as a kid.
punkman: I saw gluten-free bread in the local bakery earlier this year. The only bread that had a brochure and brand-name. Didn't last long.
mircea_popescu: "1. No team. It’s really hard to do a startup by yourself, especially if you’re a non-technical founder. No kidding, right? However, being non-technical wasn’t my excuse since WordPress came to the rescue and I basically bought the development through using cost-effective themes."
asciilifeform: 'i woke up in a ditch in drunken haze and with a company, i have no idea why i have it'
mircea_popescu: "III. WHY I SHUT IT DOWN (ALTERNATIVELY, WHAT I WOULD’VE NEEDED TO CONTINUE). Four reasons (in order of least to most important): No team ; No funding ; No longer aligned with my personal goals anymore ; No clear or predictable way to sustainability (B2C is extremely, extremely hard to monetize)"
asciilifeform: i guess he realized he was a bee
mircea_popescu: While I know there might be a possibility I could hustle incredibly hard and try to set up partnerships, the time investment required far outweighed the already incredibly slim chances of generating revenue."
mircea_popescu: "I didn’t want a startup, but an actual business that generates revenue, and Cusoy would not fulfill that personal goal for me without a full-time team, 1-2+ years of funding, multiple years of hard work (3-5+ years at the very least?) trying to answer the if/when questions of whether or not Cusoy could make money (very expensive questions too, might I add — not only in money but time, my most valuable asset).
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2014 18:48:15; asciilifeform: this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, so the guy rewards the naughty child with attention in the hopes it'll stimulate it to... think about how it's been naughty ?
mircea_popescu: and all the talking heads i fucked to date were not common prostitutes but journalists and so forth.
asciilifeform: punkman: i'm actively de-sqlite-ing a 'small' and - seemingly - reasonable - use case as we speak
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351819 << wasn't trying to say that we need/want sql. but as far as dbs go, I've always found sqlite to be a reliable tool and there's no reasonable alternative for most of my use cases. I've never looked at the source, so no comments there. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ^ yet another thing i was gonna put in 'v' but snipped in the interest of time
mircea_popescu: shouldn't i get brownie points for taking all comers ? eh ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, this chick's been rather obsessed with me for a while now. hey sciencehatesyou... i'll pay for your tits you know ? just like everyone's else.
asciilifeform: i guess
mircea_popescu: lazy, i guess ?
mircea_popescu: o hey check me out, i'm eking a living in romania.
mircea_popescu: i'm a fundamentalist rather than a realist at heart. who knew.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
mircea_popescu: i have exactly no faith in this theory.
mircea_popescu: i meant in the specific sense of thompson's compiler.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351997 << this brings us to another thing i've been doing for past 6 mo. or so ☝︎
mircea_popescu: <trinque> yep, I may take that on next. << not a bad idea yeah.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 17:00:29; asciilifeform: sorta like a v press-to-hash (feature i never got around to implementing)
asciilifeform: sorta like a v press-to-hash (feature i never got around to implementing) ☟︎
trinque: yep, I may take that on next.
mircea_popescu: and i'm not overstating the screaming, onctuous poverty they're in one little bit. have you seen the footage from that meeting of perry with random nobody in ukraina, that took place in a room smaller than the very cramped table ?
mod6: i had to laugh at that last orlov
mod6: i looked for 'environment' in the code -- didn't find any relevant matches as far as I can tell: http://dpaste.com/1QDGFPN.txt
asciilifeform: schmuck thought that 'su respects maths! i will be respected!11111'
asciilifeform: from the actual words of m & m, in as far as they have been recorded in su, it was (in at least the case of the domainant fella, i forget which one that was) on account of... mathematics
asciilifeform: i've been reading it for a couplea days now and it's a riot.
shinohai: Once I figure it out I am definitely going to write an idiot's guide to cross-compiling.
shinohai: Maybe I need the proper drugs.
asciilifeform: i don't recall my recipe needing understanding
shinohai: I just cannot understand how to use buildroot, despite reading manuals for hours upon hours.
shinohai: I strongly believe linton_s_dawson "just wants an app for that"
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:29:37; assbot: Logged on 23-12-2015 22:38:37; linton_s_dawson: If something ca be done in an easy-to-use manner, it should be done. I'm aware of the "if you're too lazy to learn you don't deserve it" logic but I don't completely agree with it.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 10:10:20; mircea_popescu: i thought the initial sync's being discussed.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:35:36; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351542 << I've worked with some fairly large sqlite dbs, obviously if you are doing a full table scan on 500gb of data, it's not gonna be fast, but it motherfucking works.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351660 << ahahahaa i'm a laugh to death, we want a sql parser to grind every motherfucking time a tx is fetched ??!?!? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351575 << i tried it! on pi-1. not enough i/o bandwidth. but the problem with all 'pi' machines is rather different - it is the presence of a dedicated, always-on usg mysterymeat cpu core ☝︎
asciilifeform: i bet even colourblind fella will notice.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:21:56; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351296 << aww, i guess it does huh. listen, i'm not saying you should be forced to use it. just... i happen to like old newsprint. and the scent of gasoline.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351572 << i ~also~ like old newsprint. but not simply from the moire pattern in the photos, but because TEXT WAS BLACK ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:17:37; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351282 << am i a bad person if i actually prefer the upper version ?
asciilifeform: (unless i misread ??)
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:10:52; ben_vulpes: i suspect maintaining that java/c layer would be more expensive than just beating adequate performance out of sqlite was
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351554 << i will take no part in anything involving java in whatever capacity. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i don't ever want to see a task state segment again. and don't see why i oughta.
punkman: I'd guess UStards expect the default state of things to be microwave-safe, whereas other people expect "it will probably catch fire/melt/etc"
thestringpuller: i'll try it on different machine :\
mircea_popescu: i guess.
ben_vulpes: i'm curious to know what data structures people who understand data structures would suggest for storage and indexing
mircea_popescu: i thought the initial sync's being discussed. ☟︎
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351677 << do we have any measurements? if I had to guess I'd say there's a lot more reads than writes (after initial sync at least) ☝︎
thestringpuller: nope. i set all the flags on cli like in mircea_popescu 's example