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ascii_butugychag: i broke my head on this for
a while, and settled on '~/.wot by default, user-specified wot whenever you want' when i did vtron.
ascii_butugychag: this was
a common complaint about my rotor system also, recall
mod6: and that is not
a one-button-push solution as you asked for.
mircea_popescu: so how about the script expects to see .wot in
a relative path to the project, and if it doesn't it aborts with an error.
mircea_popescu: mod6 the only concern with "Separate but equal .wot dir root" is that you will end up in
a fucking mess of /try1/.wot /tryn/.wot and mix and match them with actual builds takingpart in another place and sooner or later you'll cross them up, or your eyes will, and the net result will be that you run
a different security protocol than you intended, on occasion,
mod6: <+ascii_butugychag> i still don't get why
a vtron should use the net at all << I'm open to well defined explicit ideas here.
mod6: ok. so if we create
a .wot in /.../rotor/ (so, rotor/.wot), then it can not be populated by hand...
mod6: ok so lets talk this through
a bit.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 07:42:24; polarbeard: I've timestamped and categorized trb log lines, as well as improved the messages and removed (seeming never activated) destructive log rotation, here is the signed patch:
https://gist.github.com/polarbeard/961aa315c69b89d2e613 in case somebody with
a decent reputation wants to review it so I can submit it to the ml
mircea_popescu: but it should still be
a subdir of the working space rather than
a fixed dir somewhere
mod6: make note that V does not /expect/ or /default/ to
a ~/.wot dir, it just so happens in this case, that it needs to be somewhere accessable outside of the rotor build path
mod6: mircea_popescu: it has to be, there is no way that we can create and populate
a .wot directory inside of
a directory that is created by the script
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: its "the tor project" they can't fit all of that into
a single bozobit. Requires
a whole base58 encoded xml bozo turd.
mircea_popescu: the script ~must~ reference
a .wot directory somewhere outside of the entire rotor build area. <<< wait wut ?!
mod6: so I'm going to have the script reference ~/.wot -- this seems like
a resonable place to put it -- again, V will not expect it to be there, so an additional param is placed in the V command as such:
mod6: One notable change to the build script linked on the wiki: Since we're pressing out V in
a directory that gets created by the script, there is no way to have
a .wot inside this dir that it can find -- the script ~must~ reference
a .wot directory somewhere outside of the entire rotor build area.
ascii_butugychag: now i am fighting
a compulsion to stick that tape to the bottom of every single object on my desk
ascii_butugychag: mod6: shiva is unabashedly
a beachhead to eventually have the whole thing enlisped.
ascii_butugychag: but i will NOT tolerate
a megatonne of rubbish in my vpatch just to rename
a dir.
ascii_butugychag: (as my instructions note, it is necessary to rename
a directory after pressing tinyscheme-genesis to end up with the shiva subdir in shiva patch)
ascii_butugychag: which does not allow file rename operation except as
a megatonne of add/subtract-lines
BingoBoingo: And on that qntra page there's
a bit more than
a hundred KB of text on that page which gets compressed for transit
fluffypony: for anyone reading the logs I apologise for not providing
a trigger warning
trinque: there is
a kiss of death for btcd which halts it in its tracks, does not crash.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: And for the bunny rabbit everything that moves and is not
a fellow rabbit is acting in
a concerted manner and an immanent threat.
PeterL: from the vantage point of the poor, "rich people" are also
a unit which acts in
a concerted manner
shinohai:
A poor toomlin got his feelings hurt
PeterL: Is there
a way while it is running to tell it to switch back to the nodes you started it with?
punkman: mats, it says ECC "not working" though now. also saw
a supermicro G series board that only has non-ECC
BingoBoingo: So, I'm thinking about returning to linux... maybe. Any idea if RadeonSI drivers would work on
a musl kernel?
mats: 'misra c' is
a fun read
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 19:24:25; ascii_field: 'why not start small, he said, offering the yoga n00b
a single nail'
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 07:42:24; polarbeard: I've timestamped and categorized trb log lines, as well as improved the messages and removed (seeming never activated) destructive log rotation, here is the signed patch:
https://gist.github.com/polarbeard/961aa315c69b89d2e613 in case somebody with
a decent reputation wants to review it so I can submit it to the ml
BingoBoingo: But the RPC snip possibility is
a beautiful side effect
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> repubtards are gonna say "los federales gunned down
a confused old man stumbling around in the snow!" << Old might have been the serious problem. Perhaps these men started too late to get the actual RUF sorta militia mindset. Turns out Kony was right.
jurov: I know that i should manage the repository myself, but imo
a version field would be good to have so that I can easily spot if someone posts revised version of the same patch.
☟︎ polarbeard: thanks, I'll wait
a bit for reviews I think
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 01:15:23; asciilifeform: or hm, does cpp string class allocate
a fresh turd when returning ?
polarbeard: if not that's fine, I built it for me, the categorization was
a nice idea from mp, though
ben_vulpes: the problem with
a patch of this size is that my face wearies of reading myriad log lines changed for seemingly aesthetic reasons, and i fear that even
a close read will miss an underhanded c contestant.
polarbeard: it truly is, as what value it has, it's just
a step into better debugging capabilities, for this patch I've not added new log lines on purpose but I plan doing it for the next
ben_vulpes: one develops
a sense for what happens where in the codebase watching logs.
ben_vulpes: that is
a lot of delta to review for i don't precisely know what value
ben_vulpes: repubtards are gonna say "los federales gunned down
a confused old man stumbling around in the snow!"
ben_vulpes: libruls are gonna say "he was endangering
a good honest policeman!"
BingoBoingo: Prospect of rpc-snip makes me miss web phuctor
a bit less
ben_vulpes: ugh mircea_popescu's line about software only working at
a point in time is so entirely fucking timely
ben_vulpes: and lo
a url i was just looking at in chrome on the phone opens in chrome on the browser
ben_vulpes: i click this chrome icon out of
a morbid fascination
ben_vulpes: consisting SOLELY of
a GOOGLE CHROME icon
ben_vulpes: so today i open my bezzleputer, and discover
a SECOND DOCK
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2014 21:40:36; *: asciilifeform had
a dream many years ago that his grandfather took an ancient grinding wheel from workshop, turned it upside-down, and taught him to ride it. and now people actually do something quite like this.
mod6: i'll give it
a go as soon as I get the soba out and test the PVS.
mod6: i've got
a release vpatch up my sleeve, but no email ready for that or anything. that's coming within
a number of days I suspect. but probably after the 1st.
mod6: but yah, if all final tests work that include those patches, we're frozen and headed for
a release.
mod6: i need to test PVS
a bit more actually tho.
mircea_popescu: <mod6> you think it'll be useful at all before we release? << nah, fgorget it. consider the release frozen like
a week or two ago.
mod6: which is
a good thing that the test picked it up.
mircea_popescu: but anyway. there has to be
a limit, for quantum reasons.
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2016 21:26:18; PeterL: most memory management tricks seem to be directed at retaining what you want, I have never seen anybody talk about throwing out useless stuff. I don't know if anybody has researched whether there is
a hard limit to total storage space?
jurov: RSA's feature that allows bad number generators to
a ect other keys in such
a public way is problematic."
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 05:54:30; mircea_popescu: very simple mechanism to ACTUALLY improve your insurance : make
a pool which pays 25.25 btc for the first block it finds each day.
Linus_: pete_dushenski: Hey, that is
a nice PGP tutorial. I also recommend GPA (Gnu Privacy Assistant) to beginners.
pete_dushenski: Linus_: looks like you're not quite
a bitcoiner after all.
ascii_butugychag: (
a ~very~ heavy chunk of biotech research establishment in usa, and likely many other such rackets, runs on indian emigres)
pete_dushenski: is
a rotating slurry of undifferentiable mud, the kind that wants to be 'anonymous' online.
pete_dushenski: "Using
a common system for extrapolating generations from genetic recombination, the researchers estimated "all upper-caste populations, except [one] from Northeast India, started to practice endogamy about 70 generations ago... This time estimate belongs to the latter half of the period when the Gupta emperors ruled large tracts of India (Gupta Empire, 319–550 CE)."" << ie. upper class is genetically distinct, the
PeterL: most memory management tricks seem to be directed at retaining what you want, I have never seen anybody talk about throwing out useless stuff. I don't know if anybody has researched whether there is
a hard limit to total storage space?
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