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mircea_popescu recalls the times when provisioning
a bitcoin node came with "just set quota 100 gb or something, it'll never get there".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually the whole power ranger array threw
a hissy fit, started bitching about censoring txn and whatnot,
mircea_popescu: and they are getting included, and basically EVERYONE is stuck storing 14.7kb in exchange for
a one time payment of nothing at all in btc or about 5 cents to
a third party
mircea_popescu: this faux "use" of bitcoin capacity has been ongoing for close to
a year now.
mircea_popescu: notice incidentally how isis isn't making
a single move in THAT direction.
mircea_popescu: cn has made
a career out of an inability to feel the heat.
punkman: they wouldn't really sell
a lot of bootleg-intels. shit ARM copy does power the megatons of phones though.
punkman: asciilifeform: there are more "server ARM" things coming out lately, might eventually have
a workstation
mircea_popescu: they're getting
a lot of mileage out of the rare earths.
mircea_popescu: why not ? will be great. lumbering chinese golem strong enough to fracture nato, force whatever remnants are actually worth saving into #b-
a, crush the rest into alabama.
mircea_popescu: After moving to Beijing to study at the university, Mr Zhao made
a fortune in electronics, property and natural resources, before becoming chairman and second-largest shareholder (after the university itself) at Tsinghua Unigroup."
mircea_popescu: Most intriguing of all, Tsinghua Unigroup,
a company spun out of Tsinghua University in Beijing, has emerged in the past year or so as the chosen champion among champions,
a Chinese challenger to the mighty Intel. Zhao Weiguo, the firm’s boss, started out herding goats and pigs in Xinjiang,
a remote province in north-western China, to where his parents had been exiled in the 1950s, having been labelled as dissidents.
mircea_popescu: hers). And HiSilicon of Shenzhen (part of Huawei,
a maker of telecoms equipment) will be one of
a select few champions in chip design.
mircea_popescu: "In the government’s earlier efforts to boost domestic manufacturing of solar panels and LED lamps, it spread its largesse among
a lot of local firms, resulting in excess capacity and slumping prices. This time it seems to be concentrating its firepower on
a more limited group of national champions. For instance, SMIC of Shanghai is set to be China’s champion “foundry” (bulk manufacturer of chips designed by ot
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 06:16:40; ben_vulpes: saying "no" to
a hundred thousand dollars from Conde Nast is worth approximately 5x the bezzlebuxx in question.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 18:31:10; ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: it bothered me that polarbeard apparently does not yet fully grasp that every line he writes is
a unit of ~work~ for other people to do.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 18:58:55; ascii_butugychag: the overall idea i am trying to teach is that anybody changing
a line of trb ought to be mindful of the work this creates for others
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:11:50; mod6: it doesn't scale obviously for everyone to have these issues. for my own sanity, we need to make it so that
a guy just basically does one thing and then it builds.
ben_vulpes: saying "no" to
a hundred thousand dollars from Conde Nast is worth approximately 5x the bezzlebuxx in question.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 02:44:42; mircea_popescu: for the other thing, no. it promotes this anti-computing, anti-intellectual, outright evil view of software being something that is given the user, like an item, rather than the correct view of software being
a command given to the computer.
mod6: If not, tomorrow is fine too. Just want to ensure that we take
a look at what might be going on there.
mod6: Well, you may have not have `mucked' anything up. Perhaps we can walk through this
a bit.
punkman: "If you've never peddled the flesh of subhuman garbage creatures to human garbage, you've never lived, and living is
a nightmare. Eat arbys"
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:42:16; punkman: does the trb server have room for
a buildatron that eats patches and craps out bitcoind's?
phf: i'm using graphviz, v.lisp produces
a file of 'digraph G {"bitcoin-asciilifeform.4-goodbye-win32" -> "asciilifeform-kills-integer-retardation"; ...' format, everything else handled by graphviz
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:42:16; punkman: does the trb server have room for
a buildatron that eats patches and craps out bitcoind's?
mircea_popescu: for the other thing, no. it promotes this anti-computing, anti-intellectual, outright evil view of software being something that is given the user, like an item, rather than the correct view of software being
a command given to the computer.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:34:33; punkman: mod6: my goal is that someone who doesn't really know much << wouldn't this guy be better off downloading
a signed binary?
mod6: lol, ive actually worked at
a lot of places. it's totally different. people go there to get paid so they can continue buying shit they don't need and eating food that isn't food.
shinohai: What good is being part of
a Republic, if you do not contribute for the good of said Republic?
mod6: in typical US work environment, its mainly
a lot of "oh, that's not my problem... talk to so and so..."
mod6: you know something that is
a lot different participating in TMSR as opposed to any other place i've worked at?
mod6: hmm. i'd feel like that maybe that's
a bit sticky incase IPs change or what not -- maybe an addition to the wiki would be
a better place to start there?
mircea_popescu: and also, could we bundle
a pre-created .conf file with the release ? something to include say all the public trb nodes as -connects and stuff, with
a comment to explain to people how to turn it into
a public node ?
mod6: shinohai: you use the conf file quite
a bit right? does it seem to work "as expected" ?
mod6: shinohai: wow. perhaps, it's not
a horrible idea to look at
a hosted solution instead of saturating your home conn.
mircea_popescu: anyway mod6 this is
a milestone for teh foundation, got three instances spun up on the same fucking day of the release.
trinque: shinohai: I'd type env in
a terminal of yours, see what your system is setting
mod6: then make
a backup (for those who haven't)
mod6: ya, i agree with that when sync'ing up. get
a verified chain from
a trusted node.
mod6: TomServo's issues have me
a bit curious there.
PeterL: I always hated when we had to use
a room in the physics department, they used whiteboards
mod6: two weeks kinda sounds like it might be
a lot, but you know how this stuff goes ;)
mod6: which would allow us some full testing time - at the end of which, we sign patches and call it
a release.
mod6: I feel like, if you and I put some serious effort with help from #b-
a, for like 2 weeks, we'd really be somewhere by the end of february.
mod6: <+trinque>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-01-2016#1384068 << I designed the makefiles to take
a BUILDER variable, of which there is currently only rotor. ... << for now, as far as I'm concerned, this is totally ok. we'll have to worry about other *nix's after we perfect getting linux x86-64 done with
a CD to boot also.
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:34:34; mod6: as soon as i get through the end of this month,
a renewed emphasis will be put on ditching this script, and getting to
a finished place with trinque's makefiles that'll hopefully be easier to understand.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:10:39; mod6: and upon
a few others successfully building, trinque, can you work your magic with deedbot and place that guy in there so its like deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-v99996K.sh or whatever?
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:34:34; mod6: as soon as i get through the end of this month,
a renewed emphasis will be put on ditching this script, and getting to
a finished place with trinque's makefiles that'll hopefully be easier to understand.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:10:39; mod6: and upon
a few others successfully building, trinque, can you work your magic with deedbot and place that guy in there so its like deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-v99996K.sh or whatever?
punkman: does the trb server have room for
a buildatron that eats patches and craps out bitcoind's?
☟︎☟︎☟︎ shinohai would contribute
a .deb package with same result
mod6: i do think, as
a republic, we're laying the groundwork for that at some point to be
a possibility.
mod6: this to me always seems like
a shaky idea -- ONLY even
a possibility if we get all the compiler garbage fixed so that it produces (bitwise) the ~exact~ same binary every single time.
punkman: mod6: my goal is that someone who doesn't really know much << wouldn't this guy be better off downloading
a signed binary?
☟︎ mod6: And hopefully, this will end some of our tooling issues for
a while, and we can focus on the large engineering issues at hand.
mod6: trinque did us all
a huge favor, but we need to perfect the thing and make it
a "no brainer"
mod6: Yup. It's complex. We've come
a long way.
mod6: Yeah, the good news is: We have
a statically linked bitcoind that has come quite
a long way from where we started. Infact, the original version flat out will not work any longer -- ala TomServo's issue.
mod6: my goal is that someone who doesn't really know much -- but at least enough to install Linux can build this with
a "single button push"
mod6: ok sweet. that's
a good thing.
mod6: There are steps that I can let you know about to walk you through setting this up and logging your every move so we can all discover what it is that isn't working on your end. Because I'd bet dollars to donuts that for somereason you are ending up with
a super downlevel version of db.cpp -- which is why you're getting stuck on 252`450
mod6: if you want to connect to just
a single node instead of many, use: -connect (instead of -addnode)
mod6: if you want to verify all signatures in
a block; use -verifyall
mod6: But it totally depends. It depends on if you have ~/.bitcoin available for your blockchain repo, or if its in
a different place.
mod6: <+hanbot>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389355 << if this isn't already
a standard example, anyone feel like talking me through this option jungle? (starting v99996 for the first time) << so i think all that is really required here is `LC_ALL=C ./bitcoind -myip=
A.B.C.D -addnode=W.X.Y.Z &`
☝︎ mod6: so yeah, after the first, will be
a main focus there -- all are encouraged to help me get to this goal.
mod6: it doesn't scale obviously for everyone to have these issues. for my own sanity, we need to make it so that
a guy just basically does one thing and then it builds.
☟︎ mod6: obviously this is not how we want things to be -- will be the main focus to be to get rid of the build script we're using today and move to
a version of trinque's makefiles.
punkman: guess that 40MW-600phash calculation I saw in some comments somewhere might be off
a bit
gribble: Error: 'sweet' is not
a valid currency code.
gribble: Error: 'FIRST!!!' is not
a valid currency code.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski didn't they kidnap the sitting fmi head over "charged" based on the testimony of
a streetwalker that the us district attorney had paid to lie ?
punkman: pete_dushenski: did you start the canadian b-
a embassy yet?