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assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 09:36:51; diana_coman: well, there is no hard requirement as such to have the client written in cpp; but it's true that it's quite a huge effort to make an alternative, sane client (for one thing, I'd love a text-only client for instance)
BingoBoingo: https://www.rt.com/op-edge/330710-politics-america-hate-intolerance/ >> "In these times, the ‘little guy’ cannot afford to pay rent on the trailer home, not to mention a bottle of brew. The ‘little guy’ now possesses a large amount of anger about the political system that doesn't work for him, which shouldn’t be surprising since he repeatedly voted against his own interests during the republican tenure. Or, on the other
diana_coman: well, there is no hard requirement as such to have the client written in cpp; but it's true that it's quite a huge effort to make an alternative, sane client (for one thing, I'd love a text-only client for instance) ☟︎
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: i doubt you'll move the client away from cpp, but tinyscheme is a potential route to embedding scheme /in/ the existing client.
diana_coman: thanks ben_vulpes , I'll have a look; it's been ages since I last wrote anything in Scheme as such, but if there's a chance of moving the client away from cpp it's certainly worth having a look at ☟︎
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 i believe i have a bug for you: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/8d9ad794-4b47-407e-9db4-a9a8cb2c70b4/
assbot: a tour of bitcoind booting to its first thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1ONsjId )
ben_vulpes: punkman: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/06/21_a-tour-of-bitcoind-booting-to-its-first-thread.html << in there
ben_vulpes: a full sync of each bitcoind produced by each patch sent to the ml
punkman: what's a full sync in jenkins?
ben_vulpes: a well polished bash turd
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 stick a random file with .html suffix in the patches dir to reproduce the stale gnupg dir big
ben_vulpes: this is probably a purposes and causes thing, huh. avoid working towards the purpose of usable software for other people, and proceed from the cause of "hell is other people's code"... ☟︎
ben_vulpes: is everyone who hacks on this thing to write and use their own vtronic cockpit controls? or is the production of /a/ vtron usable in other contexts a goal? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i am struck by a question i find interesting
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 i got v.pl into a weird place where it didn't clean up its gnupg tempdir. perhaps consider using an "exit_gracefully" function where you're currently simply "die"-ing.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:20:44; ascii_butugychag: the reason why i once suggested breaking up all patches into atomic patchons is that right now we have a stricter than necessary dependency flow
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389213 << gotta figure out a way to minimize the re-grinding imho ☝︎
ben_vulpes: punkman: vit's a v.py descendant, correct?
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, while we're ripping the rug out from under mod6, is there a good reason to continue with the inconsistent directory structure of `./.seals' and `./patches'?
ben_vulpes: punkman: "he's a good man, and thorough"
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390083 < might be good as a separate utility. cuts down on v.pl dependencies too. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: "gpg: WARNING: not a detached signature; file `buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz' was NOT verified!"? ☟︎
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390334 what does rebase mean here? it's a term of art in version control ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: yo mod6 what does it mean in perl to do my $var = "string" . \n "otherstring" is the period a linebreak escape in perl, and the variable implicitly a concatenation of the two strings?
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 05:13:17; mircea_popescu: incidentally, this would be a pretty interesting sideline/possible job for someone dedicated. sell pre-made, fully liberated board+chip kits. for to go intos ervers etc.
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390737 < I've been considering that for a while, but I'm not really into junkyard-wars ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://www.northofreality.com/secrets/ << bit of a shame that aramcheck's not in the wot and on patreon, i like his weirdfic. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other news of similar weight and importance, leyla black was kinda hot a decade ago.
mircea_popescu: the consensus among kim kardashian, zsa zsa gabor, hussein bahamas and that guy from cheers is that a kilogram of feathers really should be lighter than a kilogram of derp entrails.
pete_dushenski: author is "Don Tapscott a best-selling author most recently The Digital Economy, Adjunct Professor at the Rotman School of Management, University of Toronto and the chancellor of Trent University."
pete_dushenski: "Then in Davos I joined people like Kevin Spacey, and Jimmy Wales (the founder of Wikipedia) on a panel talking about cyber-security. The general sense in the room is that a distributed, encrypted database like the blockchain could be key to creating a more secure computing environment and a more secure world." << now i get why reporters call ~me~ a "security expert", because motherfucking 60yo actors are sittin
asciilifeform: x86 is a moribund thing.
asciilifeform: a mb maker is a lowly creature, sorta like a btc miner, follows where the wind blows.
asciilifeform: and it's a g-series. while it lasts.
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 05:13:17; mircea_popescu: incidentally, this would be a pretty interesting sideline/possible job for someone dedicated. sell pre-made, fully liberated board+chip kits. for to go intos ervers etc.
asciilifeform: every so often, i go on a binge of installing gaskets, costly german fans, etc. but the result is always the same:
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 05:15:11; mircea_popescu: if it computes it belongs in a dc.
BingoBoingo: People who want to put it into a mobile enclosure do
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 05:12:41; mircea_popescu: that's a pretty sweet board.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390735 << i have a very similar board here, a 'tyan' ☝︎
BingoBoingo: But no, the puppybowl has a surprisingly long history.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> wait shouldn't shiva 2 be restated instead ? << this is probably a better. and its not even in the mirror at this point anyway.
BingoBoingo: Wrinkles and Kevin? Talk about a murderer's row."
BingoBoingo: "The fun doesn't stop at just watching the Puppy Bowl, though. Like in all sports now, fantasy Puppy Bowl is huge, and you can go to Animal Planet's website to draft your fantasy Puppy Bowl squad. You pick three dogs to go up against your friends. There's a scorecard and everything. I went on and drafted my team, and I think I have a strong chance to come out on top in Puppy Bowl fantasy. I mean, just look at this lineup. Bijoux,
mircea_popescu: if it computes it belongs in a dc. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why anyone'd keep locally a box they don't actually use to play games on, but hey.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this would be a pretty interesting sideline/possible job for someone dedicated. sell pre-made, fully liberated board+chip kits. for to go intos ervers etc. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: that's a pretty sweet board. ☟︎
assbot: Alright, I give up. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pq7t68 )
mod6: maybe i'll try to debug it a bit, see if i can get it to work.
mod6: since this one is new, and its not in a release, its not horrible. i'd prefer just to fix whatever might be wrong in there and resubmit & regrind high/low
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i'd much prefer antimatter << this imho sets kindof an nasty precedent: just adding anitmatter patches, bloat for the tree. a hundred years from now there might be more anti-matter than matter patches!
mircea_popescu: this is a good thing.
asciilifeform: this is a 1 line fix tho
mircea_popescu: if they gotta drone it tho, it gets a lot worse.
mircea_popescu: commonly usd, seeing how gdp is a usd thing.
mircea_popescu: if you produce a mythical man-month's code for trb, that adds the accounting value of a man-month to the tmsr gdp whether you mean for it to or not.
mircea_popescu: so... glhf, but never in the history of sovereigns has there been such a wonder etc.
phf: i have that patched gpgme version though, can always punt into the ugly land. i'm going to tackle diff first though, seems like a significant hole in my algo knowledge
phf: i'm curious if there's enough machinery in ironclad to give me support to do a pgp verify rewrite
phf: mod6: sorry, this is entirely a non issue, i'm debugging a pure lisp presser, i.e. parsing vpatch files and then doing in memory press. everything presses, but that one file has an extra newline
mod6: or even give a source file name, then output all the vpatches that touch it & their before & after hashes, or something.
mod6: so if ascii's V 'origin' command would take a hash as a parameter then show you the vpatch where it was touched, that would be helpful.
phf: there is? :o i did shasum -a 512 -c foo.txt|grep -v OK where foo.txt is your dpaste and only headers is not giving me ok.
mod6: it's not just headers.h, theres a number of others.
mircea_popescu: so, as they quite aptly say, it's a no brainer.
assbot: “Is this corn-free?” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1QzURbJ )
pete_dushenski: additionally, with a gallon of gas a ~$1 stateside, NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT FUEL ECONOMY
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Yww_nYuFA << and in other videos, why NOT put a wwi airship engine WITH 3`000 LB-FT OF TORQUE in a 1905 fiat isotta fraschini ? seems reasonable.
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dhjwWhlk5Q << left by a contravex commenter. i lollered. (for those who watch videos only)
pete_dushenski: who wants to see a funny bitbet oopsie ?
BingoBoingo: Or maybe tyvek would be a better candidate
ascii_rear: if BingoBoingo is thinking of the teflon tape used in plumbing, i can hardly imagine a worse punched ribbon
ascii_rear: mno, ever have a jam ?
ascii_rear: mask rom is prolly a close second, but it is vulnerable to electrostatic
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:39:47; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390320 <<< it's a lot easier to pretend cds are the golden standard of archival while sitting on a flac collection safely kept on a rpm hdd.
mod6: we need to focus on the makefiles & the release. meanwhile im sure theres a zillion other things.
ascii_rear: realize that i have a vast collection of crud
mircea_popescu: ascii_rear do some other work for a while.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> so in this sense mod6 it has my imprimatur that bothering to grok it isn't a waste of your finite time. << yeah, agreed, Sir.
mircea_popescu: ascii_rear> can we at least have the option of loading from local dir instead of www ? <<< now that is a very good idea.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense mod6 it has my imprimatur that bothering to grok it isn't a waste of your finite time.
BingoBoingo: ascii_rear: It's like a hard drive assembly line. Rather far from chip fab obstacles.
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:05:43; BingoBoingo: Has anyone yet tried making an alibaba shopping list for necessary equipment to start a cd replication line?
mod6: well, a dozen or so ya.
ascii_rear: what would be handy is if the thing could spit out a manifest of all the crap it expects to find
mod6: just create a 'patches' and '.seals' dir in the same dir as v.pl and you're golden
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:18:57; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390077 << this is a bad idea inasmuch as it leaves my build process stranded, so i'll be stuck forever using current v and i suppose forever pressing 9996 then ?
mod6: sure, there seems to be a bunch of power here in this tool - would be nice to harness that and make some useful stuff.
mod6: i think i wanna try to work from tinyscheme/shiva -> C++ interface with bitcoind -- seems a more sane way to figure this thing out.
ascii_rear: we can't actually use a scheme that lacks these.
ascii_rear: it is a descendent of minischeme
mod6: was tinyscheme a beter alt than minischeme simply because of its size and ability to fit in head?
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ascii_rear: but, 1) there is a skull on the patch for a reason 2) there is not actually an alternative to tinyscheme.
ascii_rear: it is intended to be a more dangerous version of existing rpc, eventually you will be able to flip arbitrary bits in the data structures with it
mod6: the thing thats a bit backwards is trying to learn how scheme works through the lens of C/C++
mod6: i gotta digest all of this a bit. heheh.
mod6: saw a lot of func pointers that seem to expose an interface into the thing tho