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mircea_popescu: but i'll quote this much to you : 你这么牛掰，你怎么不会汉语啊。😁哈哈哈，反正你也不懂，我觉得很有意思！祝你好运哈！
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: do you have contacts for the mining world? last time I checked everyone in that world was some level of scammer.
Atomicat: How do I get a positive trust from someone on this list: http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-lordship-list/? I would really love to !up myself. ;p
assbot: An historical timeline of The Real Bitcoin (TRB) development, part i. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ok6H8T )
PeterL: also read this: http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/25/an-historical-timeline-of-the-real-bitcoin-trb-development-part-i/
Atomicat: I will look into this later today. What are the rules set forth in TRB?
PeterL: although, somebody outside this group could pick up trb and start their own pool, so I guess it is not exactly the same thing
Atomicat: mircea_popescu: I have a good programming background and might be interested in running a pool if I can offer something other pools doesn't
shinohai: I only made an account a few days ago during the bitbet brouhaha
PeterL: Atomicat, I used to be active on bitcointalk, but then I found this place. Now I never go there anymore.
mircea_popescu: i dun have one.
Atomicat: For a long time I though that's your profile.
mircea_popescu: i do some digging around, it turns out that, get this : https://github.com/SpamExperts/pyzor/issues/39 they list THE FUCKING MESSAGE. so if you ever wondered why the string "123" can't be sent through email, take a motherfucking guess.
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, guy complains about not getting my email, i tell him his shit's probably badly set up, he tells me my shit's prolly blacklisted, i go what the fuck. spend a time googling to see if this can be even tested, turns out it can, i end up on http://www.mail-tester.com/web-WeHDBS which says that i'm perfect except "listed in pyzor".
mircea_popescu: shinohai yeah, or i guess brazillian-portuguese.
fluffypony: but in a movie where a small green hobbit-creature is a major star, I don't know if that counts
shinohai: I liked Four Rooms, but that was only co-produced.
fluffypony: I guess the running joke is that most of the films only had 1 (visible) black actor/actress
mircea_popescu: i dun think it would have "count"-ed for the same people.
fluffypony: yeah, that's why I said I doubt many people knew that Darth Vader's voice was a black guy
fluffypony: I mean James Earl Jones, not David Prowse
fluffypony: but I doubt many people knew it
shinohai: I don't recall. Don't think so unless it is a background character.
shinohai: I skipped the Jar-Jar awfulness. I have seen first 3 movies and the latest
mircea_popescu: i guess that's what i get for commenting on stuff i never bothered to actually see.
mircea_popescu: so the retcon forks off episode V rather than episode I ? or wait... actually this franchise starts midway does it ?
punkman: http://i.imgur.com/kbB3Z84.jpg
idkwhat2dowithmy: Thank you mircea, I've been reading qntra and thought I'd pop in here
phf: i vaguely recall that
phf: because a cryptology themed restaurant, that would be something i'd want to see. nsa contractors go there for burgers, kind of ironically, but also cause it's close to "the location". spy memorabilia, but all utterly obscure for a casual observer. cute frequency analysis problems sprinkled all over
phf: aah, i see
mircea_popescu: but i must an' gladly do commend your stubborn insistence because yeah in fact i was conflating two things in mah head.
mircea_popescu: a) the expectation is, as you've seen, that i'll get an accountant out of bed and on my own dime fix the mess power rangers made because hey, why not, it's a decentralized protocol which means some idiots break it and the world fixes it
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i would suppose that is "child porn" by today's standards, right ? buncha fourteen year olds in clingwrap tops.
mircea_popescu: did i just talk through you ?
asciilifeform: because i don't see the mega-point
asciilifeform: i must be simple-minded, then
asciilifeform: incidentally i still don't fully grasp the point of the whole malleation thing
mircea_popescu: i currently send both kinds, and the mined blocks include the low-ified S all the time.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is something we can experiment with once someone picks up the pool thing ?
asciilifeform: 'The requirement to have signatures that comply strictly with DER has been enforced as a relay policy by the reference client since v0.8.0, and very few transactions violating it are being added to the chain as of January 2015. ' <<< ahahaha turns out i was right, even per the horse's own mouth
asciilifeform: i am trying to grasp what, precisely, would happen, if mircea_popescu or anybody were to build a high-S miner
asciilifeform: what am i missing
asciilifeform: and i am looking at prb right now, it generates low-S only, and ditto for relay, but i see nothing that would force it to reject a block CONTAINING a high-S tx
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think you are conflating the DER encoding thing with the high/low-S thing
ben_vulpes: i do not see the point at all in differentiating between txnen-which-are-relayed and txn-which-are-mined ☟︎
asciilifeform: aha. so that would be if prb behaved as i believed it did, where it will still eat a block generated by 2009 rules
asciilifeform: i thought 'soft' forks were ones which ~only~ concerned relaying
mircea_popescu: i'm not about to lead this ace into random trick.
mircea_popescu: anyway, understand the strategic situation here. i can, at this and any future point, decide to revert this soft fork. they can not, they are committed to forever sticking to it.
asciilifeform: i thought it was only the relay and selector
mircea_popescu: there isn't a "you do yours and i do mine" thing here. IF we decide to mine as much as one single high s block, this INVALIDATES all further work of all noncompliant miners. forever.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun think you understand how this works.
mod6: so here's a thing -- if I make a vpatch for this, one doesn't need to build with it either. but one could, and that should resolve the issue.
mod6: but, i'd be nice to ship a bitcoinatron that actually bitcoinates without the weird shit. i'd like Mr. P. to be able to send coins without issues.
asciilifeform: (i still fail to grasp why we are caving to the enemy on this one)
mod6: I just need to get to it. lol. lot on my plate. if anyone would like to start work on this with direction from me that'd be fine too. just let me know.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369573 << is somebody gonna write a full 'v' treatise ? << i think what we need is basically like an RFC of the thing to explain the overall concepts and baseline functions. this way anyone can implement their own V without having to parse mine, yours, or bens, or whomever. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2016#1369476 << somebody with an 's' name, i think... smickles ?? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369510 << they are ubiquitous where i live. i think literally everybody, other than flat-dwellers, has one ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369522 << btw, i've actually been in this comical situation, on more than one occasion ☝︎
asciilifeform: and i bet they are already hatched, somewhere.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369687 << i think i only paid enough for pirannhas ☝︎
ben_vulpes: I R INSULT
mircea_popescu: but in other news : chocolate cake being in the making, i was humbly presented with spoon of ganache to lick. (yes while sitting here, ha!). and so i did and because of my beard ... the pleasant scent still floats around my nose.
thestringpuller: i thought girls hated getting scratched by beards?
mircea_popescu: i couldn't really grow a decent beard before my 30s.
ben_vulpes: send help i have faulty genes
ben_vulpes: unkempt-i-haven't-had-time-to-sleep-much-less-shave-and-no-my-farcial-hair-doesn't-have-complete-coverage-yet-thank-you-very-much
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: what level of evilness is your facial hair? >> http://i.imgur.com/PHmF5.jpg
ben_vulpes: i have farcial hair now, total game-changer
thestringpuller: ^- yea. i think >50% of women who hook up before that age end up "regretting it"
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, i'm starting to be real suspicious over here about plainly observable nonliniarities in the flow of time.
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 01:23:57; assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 00:19:11; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2016#1369219 << i can definitely see b-a being too fast for herr t.
asciilifeform: in unrelated nyooz, i just came back from a party thrown by $firm, at a kind of cryptological theme park. and one of the riddles involved a skytale.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i actually enjoy my carbon units
ben_vulpes: i have yet to build the partial-differential-equable-actuator-standing-on-ball to haul computer along on the walk to the office
asciilifeform: so i didn't finish, train went in tunnel,
pete_dushenski: "Wences: Okay, I agree with that, friend ; I don’t want to offend you, so I am going to use my mom as an example." << can you spot the three tell-tale scammer hooks here ?
mircea_popescu: but... one time you'll be 60, and you'll have the opportunity to pick up teenaged chicks off the street. and you'll try, i'm sure, and manage, i'm sure. right ?
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 00:19:11; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2016#1369219 << i can definitely see b-a being too fast for herr t. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Ok, I've got a everything
BingoBoingo: AH, I was doing leaves, not flow
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> So if there are three heads I want I'd press 3 times << no should just be able to choose the last one in the flow output
BingoBoingo: So if there are three heads I want I'd press 3 times
BingoBoingo: But I mean to get the next head do you just repeat pressing with a different head or???
shinohai: I got as far as pressing, but code doesnt change mod6 :/
mod6: i can throw those in there. just a moment
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> in general people should be able to make their own decision based on keys, rather than pile up on you to review neh ? << i don't see a problem with doing it this way.
BingoBoingo: So do I need to unpack a source Bitcoin tarball anywhere special?
BingoBoingo: I'm closer to getting it to work
shinohai: @ BingoBoingo I still wound up patching manually :/
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2016#1369219 << i can definitely see b-a being too fast for herr t. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's the equivalent of a bug going "oh hey, there's some food here. how come ? i didn't put it there ? well... i guess i'll just have some,w hat's the worst that can happen".
BingoBoingo: I've see buried natural gas, uncle has one.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I prolly need to read moar Uncle Al, so far barely touched the stuff. Most of today's time was spent capping wires and Moar Batteries.
mircea_popescu: so hanbot is working out. she's on one of those balls. i go "hey... silbert picks up coinbase in all-paper acquihire". she starts laughing. she can't stop laughing. eventually she lets out "that entire work-out... just warm-up for this laugh."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2016#1369468 << lol. all paper deal, too, i bet. ☝︎
thestringpuller: yea. my b. i'm too nice.
assbot: Logged on 13-01-2016 19:00:44; copypaste: I imagine most of us conduct or have conducted business on IRC