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benkay: mircea_popescu: intellectual property
mod6: O_O
jcpham renames wallet backups to two_girls_one_cup.rm
BingoBoingo: Jere_Jones: Polite letter to the NSA?
gribble: MPEx Missing Manual : BitcoinStocks - Reddit: <http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1x18vc/mpex_missing_manual/>; MPEx: The Missing Manual 6 - Options - serialized delusions: <http://explo.yt/post/2014/01/21/MPEx%3A-The-Missing-Manual-6-Options>; MPEx: The Missing Manual 5 - Account statements and transfers ...: <http://explo.yt/post/2014/01/07/MPEx%3A-The-Missing- (1 more message)
nubbins`: http://live.wsj.com/video/faa-grounds-drone-beer-delivery-service/AF9F9299-F538-4892-AC37-A143AB85D523.html?mod=WSJ_article_outbrain&obref=obnetwork#!AF9F9299-F538-4892-AC37-A143AB85D523
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: romania has dolphins?!
Namworld: Eh: http://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/4957483+_e37a66eb929934ae4d40c3919b04641e.jpg
cads: mircea_popescu: math that kicked my ass 2 years ago is now super trivial, and yet the math that's kicking my ass today still seems tough
jurov: Mats_cd03: for me it makes clear difference that my txs propagate nicely
cads: if I was making a revenue stream the latter sounds ideal, but of course I understand that my revenue stream would be even _bigger_ if I syndicate my content with youtube.
cads: mircea_popescu: my claim is that media distributors like youtube and facebook profit from hosting this unlicensed community created meme content, which is typically considered much more entertaining in itself than anything like the cartoons, dvds, or plushies made by the company.
cads: _maybe_ it's a sort of childhood brand recognition
cads: mircea_popescu: so 'moe' is a style of anime synonymous with "cute" and "budding" charachters that you want to lovingly "protect", and it's very popular with young girl audiences and middle aged male audiences.
cads: mircea_popescu: Do you know about ponies?
herbijudlestoids: anyway. i cant stick around. i just came because mike_c said i said MPOE was overvalued.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: worse they present the data as if it was clear cut that now people like salsa more than ketchup, but there is probly algorithmic/computational reasons more than historical ones
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: like i said earlier. i dont view this as an argument, when i question it is just to learn. i am always willing to consider an opinion or formula or whatever, even if i dont accept it in the end.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: so, for the sake of experiment, we are not allowed to make assumption that MPOE price is locally efficient? thats stupid now?
herbijudlestoids: mike_c originally said that i assumed the market was efficient and therefore MPOE was overpriced. i did not saythat.
mircea_popescu: see ? that's what mike_c was basically saying originally.
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/4b5d8a295f96a1b95c479f7854c63718/tumblr_mugv6z3DjK1qgj6gdo1_1280.jpg
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: store of value which is hoardable without restricting the economy, non dilutable, no counterparty risk, etc
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: no im willing to accept that
herbijudlestoids: mike_c: value or price?
Duffer1: mike_c ah thanks i misread conservation
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: showing what the market is implying the EPS growth rate will be on an infinite horizon...
herbijudlestoids: mike_c: nope
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i am totally fine with valuing MPOE on a book value basis. so what is the current P/B multiple?
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i said *asset*. any of them, it doesnt matter.
herbijudlestoids: mike_c: hold BTC, return 0%, hold overvalued asset for 10Y, sell asset, return -10%
herbijudlestoids: mike_c: i thought the article ...i just wrote...makes it pretty clear? if youre buying one asset based on the 6 month historicals, then the future has to play out in a certain way for your investment to not underperform.
herbijudlestoids: mike_c: no i wouldnt value shit based on historical data alone?
herbijudlestoids: mike_c: if im dependent on the ask price at end of life then its a speculation not investment
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: if the price i pay today for MPOE is more than the total amount of gains that MPOE can bring in over say, 10 years, then it is a bad investment for people looking for assets to invest in for 10 years
Bugpowdurr: mircea_popescu: Q about exercise
mircea_popescu: mike_c this is actually true, tho at the rate we're going by the time btc moneyness reaches balance the remaining inflation will indeed be very low
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: why do i need to buy a security then? the rate of conservation for holding bitcoin is 100%
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: all securities have an internal rate of return
herbijudlestoids: mike_c: see that is useful feedback which i appreciate. your earlier comments just get my grill.
herbijudlestoids: mike_c: well it depends i guess. mircea_popescu was telling me something about 1% being the natural RoR in bitcoin under one calculation but in a different calculation 1000s of %
herbijudlestoids: mike_c: whether or not i have an opinion really has shit all to do with the article
herbijudlestoids: mike_c: im not saying too high lol, im saying *this is what the market is implying EPS growth will be*
herbijudlestoids: mike_c: if what you quoted is what you took away from the blog post, i guess i must suck at communicating.
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> i love quants. "if we assume the market is correctly pricing this stock, then we can derive that this stock is overpriced" :) >> pretty much it.
mircea_popescu: also http://vampires.wikia.com/wiki/The_Vampire_Dictionary
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not classical fuzz, understand. bitflips.
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/e715b07435a41e84b6ab8361bc2c319b/tumblr_moqnk9qvtP1r563rvo1_1280.jpg
benkay: http://www.artrenewal.org/artwork/312/2312/10262/the_daughters_of_niobe-large.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://media.oglaf.com/comic/vorpal_blade.jpg << this chicks got really nice tits.
punkman1: mircea_popescu: is this month gonna have more new accounts than previous one?
punkman: mircea_popescu: is wifi from satellite even feasible?
punkman: http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=OG-BOOK01&Category_Code=OG
punkman: mircea_popescu: I think so
davout: mircea_popescu: ok
davout: mircea_popescu: https://www.google.fr/search?q=moulinette&client=firefox-a&hs=qgu&rls=org.mozilla:fr:official&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=b6YCU7uhCOq60QXbv4GwBg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1473&bih=1255
mircea_popescu: http://www.stormfront.org/truth_at_last/raje/memories.html
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember 'back orifice' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was genuine lua in the turd
mircea_popescu: mike_c none. but im just saying practically, people do what they do.
mircea_popescu: mike_c but as to the practical question...
mircea_popescu: mike_c do you know of any implementation of xml that is actually not xml-ish ?
mircea_popescu: mike_c whatever's in the code is currently xml-ish.
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones the kids don't seem to, which means you'll probably have your work cut out for you until you fall over
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones sure, for the first 1k lines.
Jere_Jones: mircea_popescu And THAT is a beautiful language.
davout: mircea_popescu: well that's kind of like mpex, "here are the rules; like it or not, but its how this thing works"
benkay: mircea_popescu: that's the point. avoiding "all of those things" is an impossible task.
benkay: but if you just avoid all those things you can write rock-solid code, mircea_popescu.
davout: mircea_popescu: i told the owner, the kangasbros guy that bitcoincentral.com redirected to localbitcoins.com, a minutes after it gives me a blank page and starts working again as soon as i change IP
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> hello multifacepalming logreader people. your facepalms have been foretold. /// as a mostly not programmer this aint so bad so far!
davout: mircea_popescu: you'd be paying them fees for this
mircea_popescu: nicknock_ see mpoe-pr's scamthread
peterl: mircea_popescu: could you publish your own average bitcoin price?
mircea_popescu: "volume_percent": 30.15
mircea_popescu: "volume_btc": 17716.99,
mircea_popescu: mike_c it was an enjoying read. i am a sadist :D
davout: mike_c: no, because frameworks
ozbot: Unexpected T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM - PHP Sadness
ozbot: Unexpected T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM - PHP Sadness
mircea_popescu: mike_c that's not automatically insecure.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: here's one reason: "PHP is built to keep chugging along at all costs."
mircea_popescu: mike_c what's so insecure about php anyway. it securely failed the === "orly" test
r3wt: $address = mysql_real_escape_string(strip_tags($_POST["recipient"])); $wallet = new Wallet($idtw); $validity = $wallet->validate($address); if($validity == false) { $errors[] = "Not a valid address"; $error = true; }
kakobrekla: do a var_dump($array)
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, $ php -r "var_dump(is_array(false));"
davout: mircea_popescu: guess you have a point
davout: mircea_popescu there you go, PHP is the perfect randomness generator
r3wt: mircea_popescu: if anything its a good place to learn
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, indeed
pankkake: mircea_popescu: it does. but it's just a module, there's no quick access operator
davout: mircea_popescu: the infamous "figure-it-out-yourself" operator
Apocalyptic: OP_CHECK_BALANCE OP_MAIL OP_WITHDRAW
davout: Apocalyptic: maybe it has the NOT_EXACTLY_SURE_WHAT_I_M_DOING operator
davout: mircea_popescu: lol
davout: mircea_popescu: oh yes
davout: mircea_popescu: why not?
TomServo: mircea_popescu: Yep
pankkake: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_Identity_Protocol wow this is awesome
pankkake: r3wt: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Bitcoin_address_authentication