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mircea_popescu: if i were a sapper i'd have long ago moved on to relaxing by the maker's pool.

mircea_popescu: either that or i had the thing lying around on my hdd for two years to the day now

mircea_popescu: lol i guess this shows just how unreliable the non-blockchgain timestamp is

mircea_popescu: ahahaha i signed it as 2014 ?

BingoBoingo: Getting high never changes: "My conclusion is that the togetherness of things in a common world, the law of sharing, of which I have said so much, may, when perceived, engender a very powerful emotion; that Hegel was so unusually susceptible to this emotion throughout his life that its gratification became his supreme end, and made him tolerably unscrupulous as to means he employed; that indifferentism is the true outcome of every

mircea_popescu: i suppose blockheight with no almohadilla is a better notation

danielpbarron: PeterL, God said He'd preserve His word and I believe Him

PeterL: <danielpbarron> yes, and when you say l:f:p and I look it up, me must be looking at exactly the same code << shouldn't chapter/verse be pressing:file:line ?

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-01-2016#1375260 << i do not want this ☝︎☟︎

danielpbarron: yes, and when you say l:f:p and I look it up, me must be looking at exactly the same code

ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: for some reason i thought it was built on generic evangelical something-or-other

BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> i have no idea what these are << Texts from my new cult teaching me sobriety.

ascii_butugychag: i have no idea what these are

BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> but you would ideally like to have another, 'unauthoritative' guide. << Model repeated mostly successfully with other texts. i.e. relationship between the Big Book and 12&12

BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> the closest thing to notes that i recommend are those atruechurch articles and his writing is mostly just comparing what false teachers say to what the Bible says, complete with many references << AHA, but what is this?

danielpbarron: the closest thing to notes that i recommend are those atruechurch articles and his writing is mostly just comparing what false teachers say to what the Bible says, complete with many references

danielpbarron: i would say that people seeking attunement should read the source and not the notes scribbled in the margins ☟︎

danielpbarron: i'm kinda a scripture-onlyist

danielpbarron: i don't dig concordance

danielpbarron: i don't get it; you want me to write a bible or something?

ascii_butugychag: i assume that everybody here has at least seen a page of talmud ? ☟︎

ascii_butugychag: ty BingoBoingo. and i'm a little surprised that nobody (not even pete_dushenski) mentioned talmud yet

mircea_popescu: i am starting to think it's part of the appeal.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << technically the ml is a soft fork on v chain ? :D << I think of it as more a concordance for the v chain

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 you wanna write the [implementation] part and i bitch at you ? seems a better approach than the reverse. << haha, ok. i probably wont get a start on this until later tonight tho. hope that's alright.

BingoBoingo: Seriously. I don't get the drive to adopt solutions pushed by ventures who broke doing things like http://qntra.net/2014/12/bitcoin-bowl-recap-nc-state-wins-34-27/

ascii_butugychag: i will note that the few actual women attending were creatures straight out of mircea_popescu's okc articles

ascii_butugychag: nah but some other ru kid stood up and said 'your algo was broken no fewer than 3 times, do i invest now or wait for 4th' or approx. this

ascii_butugychag: incidentally, i'm on a bit of a group theory kick

mircea_popescu: >I have a long history of having a keenly skeptical eye, I have solid critical thinking skills, and I bat away wacky theories all day long. I have NEVER, in any forum, posted any comment of any type in regards to bitcoin, this is my first one- I believe in speaking humbly, thinking deeply and acting bravely.

ascii_butugychag: i intend to use it to demonstrate that, e.g., all 'p' programs terminate.

mircea_popescu: i dunno how i'd use it.

BingoBoingo: So I go to check my rss feed and get a link to https://archive.is/u0mZU

assbot: No. It took a sharp fall in the BTC price. This narrative that Gavin and I were... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NgCDHi )

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mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag i'm creaming my pants at the notion that footnote 2 is actually provable, mathematically.

assbot: Hi Mike. I met you at San Jose conference in 2013. I remember very clearly- you ... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0u3D8 )

BingoBoingo: skin in the game than you did, because if I remember correctly you never foresaw the spectacular growth of the bitcoin network, never thought it would work, and therefore did not really have that many coins yourself)."

BingoBoingo: loller "Hi Mike. ... If I was a handler for an organization that wanted to insert an asset into the bitcoin community, someone like you would be the ideal candidate. Someone that young people, new to the community, naturally respect and will listen to. Strange how you've spent so much time cultivating your standing with people like that, while your reputation plummeted among the people that understood the network (and had far more

mircea_popescu: mod6 you wanna write the [implementation] part and i bitch at you ? seems a better approach than the reverse.

ascii_butugychag: i would argue that an illiterate kid who sees nothing wrong with copying bits is every bit as sane in this regard as RMS

BingoBoingo: I wrap that and the "piracy because poor" together with some other idiocies into the Consumermunism label.

ascii_butugychag: for some reason i thought those folks were forbidden to unionize

BingoBoingo: punkman: Falkvinge comes from a very peculair form of socialism I like to refer to Consumermunism

mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag mk, i've got it, and it is scandalous.

ascii_butugychag: at any rate, the large part of what i see as needing a manual, is the ~why~ of v

ascii_butugychag: i see no reason why mailing lists ought not be vtronic

ascii_butugychag: i called my draft simply 'v-genesis'

mircea_popescu: i guess in time the convention that x-manual holds the manual will resolve this.

mircea_popescu: anyway, what i'm going to do here is : write a trilema article titled The V Manual Genesis or something, which will discuss but also contain a genesis for something called v-manual

ascii_butugychag: what, i'll scream twice ?

ascii_butugychag: so i would readily believe it if i had any reason to think it true

ascii_butugychag: hey i already wake up screaming

ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-01-2016#1375311 << so i read this, and one thing continues to perplex me, ☝︎

ascii_butugychag: (though i recently bought a strange widget that puts electric current through your wrist and keeps you from barfing, nfi how, but wurks, so we can see again!)

ascii_butugychag: i tried, on the train, and nearly barfed.

mircea_popescu: i'm not importing rfc.

ascii_butugychag: this is kinda why i stopped

mircea_popescu: tel lyou what, i'ma make it a v instead, fuck this stupid shit.

mircea_popescu: da fuck. am i going to call it a rfc ? if not, why not, if yes am i going to follow the "guidelines" ? which ? the most recent ? who the fuck is "Internet Architecture Board (IAB)" that i should care, nevber heard of 'em. the original ? seriously, postel ?

mircea_popescu: i think we've seen enough of the pitfals of disconsidering progeny in satoshi's work.

ascii_butugychag: i very clearly spelled this out, when first published it.

ascii_butugychag: as i wrote it, aha.

mircea_popescu: the only saving grace i see here is that it doesn't HAVE to be n^2

mircea_popescu: need i remind you the lulz of x.org recently lost ?

jurov: i did not say anything about comfort, either. how do you propose bundling the patch spanning several files where hunks don't make sense individually?

mircea_popescu: should i break down and try to rfc this ?

ascii_butugychag: btw i hope everybody understands that life with 'v' is always going to resemble dark age blood sports like cvs, etc. far more than modern greased poles (e.g., 'git') ☟︎

jurov: i see it as going back to RCS , no idea otherwise

ascii_butugychag: i will leave the 'why' as an exercise. largely because this is not a pressing issue.

jurov: i don't see ml as any authoritative source, nor it can't be

jurov: it will publish and otherwise ignore it, I will tell everyone to add it to their v repository by hand.

ascii_butugychag: what i say is that REGARDLESS of the names, if THE CRYPTO is valid, it is a VALID patch/seal tuple.

jurov: what??? i said nothing bout delegations

ascii_butugychag: i have to do THE SAME amount of verification work.

ascii_butugychag: this means that at no point do ~i~ get to do less verification ~because of something the mirror host does~ - e.g., verify mailed in patches

ascii_butugychag: the other thing i oughta mention is that imho a core principle of v-ism is that it is impermissible for trust to be implicitly delegated.

ascii_butugychag: because i don't believe that any project has any business cancerously growing patches until this turns into a serious boojum.

ascii_butugychag: and i don't see it as a serious boojum

ascii_butugychag: the O(N^2) instrinsic runtime of unknown-patch-bag+unknown-sig-bag is something i realized from the start ☟︎

ascii_butugychag: actually in that case i've no idea, iirc mod6 put it there

jurov: nevermind, i said, i did not though to be som paramount

ascii_butugychag: PeterL: idk, but jurov had some reason, which i still don't fully grasp

ascii_butugychag: so i don't see what the point is of this change

ascii_butugychag: i wrote v the way i did so that ALL patches and ALL seals can coexist on my disk and it be HUMAN-obvious which belong to whom and what.

jurov: but this is Not Possible, now I have to parse the patchname out, and use that to look for sigs

jurov: i want filename.vpatch that i can just take and slap .sig in the end of it to find a signature

ascii_butugychag: and i don't see why permit garbage.

jurov: i just have some random bunch of name.vpatvh and somethingother.sig someone sends by email

jurov: because i need to match it to patchname.vpatch

ascii_butugychag: i could even see the argument that 'signer' oughta be a gpg fp

jurov: someonse sends 3 patches with 3 sigs, I either have to get the match with gnarly regext above

mircea_popescu: if i want to represent alf's signature as "asciilifeform", "ascii_butugychag" or more or just a subset, it should be up to me.

jurov: yes? how do i extract author and patchname?

ascii_butugychag: these, ideally, will NOT always be the same, i keep trying to encourage folks to read and sign MY patches (and that of others)

ascii_butugychag: jurov, mod6: i designed the naming convention this way deliberately

mod6: which, i think is fine because then i can sign that patch and call it: asciilifeform-kills-integer-retardation.vpatch.mod6.sig

mod6: so i was wrong above, not just .sig, but <vpatch_name>.vpatch.<wot_id>.sig

mod6: i.e.: asciilifeform-kills-integer-retardation.vpatch && asciilifeform-kills-integer-retardation.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig